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Old April 22nd, 2013, 07:29 PM   #1
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Salisbury Development Thread

I thought I'd post a few things about construction/ development projects in Salisbury. Currently the city is undergoing a massiver restoration and the City Centre is one big construction site, with many more projects in the pipeline.
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Hotel plan for city centre

Plans have been unveiled to demolish the Tesco store on Castle Street in Salisbury and rebuild it with a hotel on top of it.

Developers Spen Hill have told Spire FM they want to make use of some empty office space above the supermarket to bring a 65 bedroom hotel.

A public exhibition's been held to get local people's views with the comments of the 120 people who went along being put towards a planning application that'll be submitted to Wiltshire Council later this year.

The developers have also been consulting with the Salisbury Civic Society and English Heritage about the plans.

In a statement, they've said:

"Spen Hill Developments Ltd would like to thank all the local residents who visited the exhibition over the past two days. We were delighted at the positive feedback regarding the need for more city centre hotel accommodation and for the plans to open up this section of riverside to the public realm. We were also happy to hear that the local population is very fond of having a Tesco in the city centre and were interested to see how this store will be improved with the proposed redevelopment. We received several constructive comments on design which we will take away and consider before finalising our submission. We will continue to keep Salisbury residents informed as we bring forward our plans and look forward to contributing to the improvement of Salisbury City Centre".

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Believe it or not, the plan has generated controversy as Tesco has literally just spent millions renovating the store that they are now going to more or less demolish
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 07:42 PM   #4
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Salisbury Market Square

The market square in Salisbury is currently undergoing a £3 million regeneration. The project is expected to take 22 weeks and is to be completed in 3 stages. The first stage, across from the Guild Hall and War Memorial is expected to take 7 weeks. The market will be resurfaced using granite from China.
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The Maltings, Salisbury

Arguably the largest project in the city, the Maltings re-development is a project to tear down the 1970s shopping precinct and develop it, and the surrounding car park into a massive new area of city entre with shops, parks and other recreational facilities. So far, plans are still a bit hazy as it's still in the early stages, but there is rumour going around that the main anchor tennant of the re-development may be a Primark; something Salisbury residents are crying out for. I'm not too sure on what's happening as there is no 'concrete' evidence on what is planned and what's not planned.

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Salisbury Bus Station Re-development

Architects team up to redesign bus station

THREE architects concerned about the loss of Salisbury Bus Station and its impact on the city have teamed up to design a plan for its redevelopment.

Under the proposals put forward by Greg Condliffe, Paul Stevens and Patrick Wilson, there would be a ground level covered market on the site, with two further floors of development above.

In addition, the old fire station in Salt Lane would be converted into a low cost hotel, with the bedrooms above the covered market, set back from the street frontages.

Mr Condliffe, of Concrete Ideas Architects, said: “Salisbury is a market town and what it needs is to expand market trading; a new covered market on the bus station site would be an ideal counterbalance to the retailing proposed by Stanhope, the developer of the Maltings and Central Car Park.

“We believe the proposals for the Maltings will drag the centre for shopping away from the Market Place and Guildhall Square and accelerate the decline of the shopping streets east of the city centre.”
He said the plan will encourage commercial activities and expand opportunities for existing market traders.

Wider proposals include highway improvements to expand the Market Place across Blue Boar Row, with a coach drop-off point at the western end and a taxirank at the junction with Queen Street. Castle Street, south of Chipper Lane, would become oneway northbound while the oneway flow at the south end of Endless Street would be linked to Winchester Street, providing a dedicated bus street with access only for deliveries and taxis.

Mr Condliffe said: “These ideas do not conflict with the current improvements and build on the successful outcome of the long debate over the Market Place.”

Working in conjunction with Salisbury-based Paul Stevens Architecture and Patrick Wilson Architects of Pewsey, Mr Condliffe now plans to develop proposals for community engagement with Salisbury City Council, market traders, Wilts & Dorset bus company and Wiltshire Council.
The bus station is due to be sold this summer by Wilts & Dorset.

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New college for defence sciences

THE country’s first college to specialise in defence and protective sciences industries is set to open with the backing of the University of Southampton.

The university has teamed up with the Army to open the new University Technical College (UTC) which will be state-run, open to 14 to 18-year-olds and will specialise in science and engineering.

Currently only a dozen are open around the country but the latest UTC set to open in Wiltshire will be the first to use the skills needed for the defence and protective science industries to structure students’ learning.

Vice-chancellor of the University of Southampton, Professor Don Nutbeam, said: “The UTC will offer an exciting new option for young people, giving them the skills and understanding to progress to science and engineering courses at top universities and to take advantage of the huge job opportunities in the region.”

Project manager Gordon Aitken added: “Defence and protective science industries dominate the economy of south Wiltshire and provide huge employment opportunities for young people.”

This is most likely to help for jobs at Porton Down and Amesbury due to the MOD presence. It's not known where the college will be located yet, but there is heavy speculation that it may be on Fountian way on an empty peice of land where a part of the Old Manor Hospital once stood. Another place could be the old coal shed site on Cherry Orchard lane, although that may become extended parking for the train station as well due to heavy parking on Cherry Orchard lane and Ashfield Road.
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Salisbury development is an oxymoron. Growing up in salisbury I think the cities ambition is so little that the policy is gradual decline until things break.
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Salisbury development is an oxymoron. Growing up in salisbury I think the cities ambition is so little that the policy is gradual decline until things break.
The problem is the people here complain that the city needs to improve, but when it does they complain that it's changing too much and should be left alone
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The problem is the people here complain that the city needs to improve, but when it does they complain that it's changing too much and should be left alone
That is very true.
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Having just come back from Salisbury i think the city just needs a bit of tarting up (paving, street furniture, planting etc.) and to make the pedestrian areas larger and more inviting. Most of the typical chain shops were in the awful shopping center that has zero of the charm of the surrounding streets (a bland oasis in the center of beauty). Most shops outside of this area were charity shops, with little to entice more affluent residents to the town center. Also key site like the riverside and surrounding the cathedral seemed wasted opportunities for places to eat/drink and enjoy the view. I find it a shame as i always find Salisbury an enticing place!
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What did you think of the new market square?

Also the maltings is to be torn down and redeveloped soon
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spot on there Cardiff, unfortunately however there is no vision from anyone and the place is dead. Council took ridiculously long period of time just to lay some slabs in the market.
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I actually thought the repaving of the market area was to quite a high standard, however the market was completely geared to over 70's (at least), when they all die in a few years i cant see much of a use for the market stalls that are currently there. Again more aspiration stalls selling local produce would have been better and entice the wealthier middle classes into town to shop and lunch. It was nice to see the new square being used for the military handing out medals and parading, the Christmas markets were quite small but no more dis-interesting than others, could the town support a few fair ground rides like a wheel or carousel? it would be nice to think they will roll out the same paving across the city center or maybe some high quality cobbled streets to increas the character of certain areas.
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I actually thought the repaving of the market area was to quite a high standard, however the market was completely geared to over 70's (at least), when they all die in a few years i cant see much of a use for the market stalls that are currently there. Again more aspiration stalls selling local produce would have been better and entice the wealthier middle classes into town to shop and lunch. It was nice to see the new square being used for the military handing out medals and parading, the Christmas markets were quite small but no more dis-interesting than others, could the town support a few fair ground rides like a wheel or carousel? it would be nice to think they will roll out the same paving across the city center or maybe some high quality cobbled streets to increas the character of certain areas.
It's nice, but the residents don't like it.

Believe it or not, the majority of people actually preferred the car park that was there same with the pig market across from the odeon on new canal

On a good note, the roads are all being re paved over the next 5 years.

Blue boar row, Winchester street and half of castle Street (up to millstream approach) are already done. The duel carriageway has also just been upgraded. (Much to the anger of commuters)

Plus the bus station is to be redeveloped into an indoor market and the old fire station turned into a hotel. (More unhappy people)

The tesco on castle Street is to have tge top 3 floors demolished and turned into a luxery hotel (yet more unhappy people)

The old manor hospital is being restored into a health complex and nursing home, and wilton road has been fully re paved.

Victoria park is also being significantly upgraded too, and most residential streets will be getting new layers of asphalt, as well as the cities streetlamps are being gradually replaced too.

However, people here are so stuck in the past they are actually actively opposing the majority of all this. Some active groups are actually trying to kill off all development and rejuvenation attempts. And that's why I want to move
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I actually thought the repaving of the market area was to quite a high standard, however the market was completely geared to over 70's (at least), when they all die in a few years i cant see much of a use for the market stalls that are currently there. Again more aspiration stalls selling local produce would have been better and entice the wealthier middle classes into town to shop and lunch. It was nice to see the new square being used for the military handing out medals and parading, the Christmas markets were quite small but no more dis-interesting than others, could the town support a few fair ground rides like a wheel or carousel? it would be nice to think they will roll out the same paving across the city center or maybe some high quality cobbled streets to increas the character of certain areas.
I was in Salisbury recently and I think the New Market Square is looking lovely, as for the Market I think it pretty good. I found lots of good green grocer stalls and the fish and meat vans seemed good. I found one cheese stall that I loved. The Presentation wise it's undersells the quality of the cheese, which is some of the best I've ever had. The Plastic sealed packs don't have all the expensive marketing materials that the supermarkets throw in, The Windyhedge farm cheese is Lush. I'm in fact now trying to justify to myself the 80 mile trip just to buy some more.

There were some very interesting food stalls, The New Forest mushroom stall with it's over a dozen types of mushrooms, that you never see in a Supermarket was particularly impressive. The bread stalls were not overwhelming though. While the bread was at least cheap and of a good variety the cakes all seemed to be lardy slices of something that did not entice me. Of course there were the inevitable Olive and chutney stalls, but they are all important, plus a couple of nice leather goods stalls.

You should see the shit that is shovelled in street markets nearer London, nearly all cheap cleaning products, batteries or flammable looking clothes ugh.

Salisbury is market is never going to be a centre of fashionable stalls and arts and crafts, but I think it's not too bad at the moment.
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All I can find on the Maltings is that Stanhope is looking at 250,000 sq ft of retail, which if that includes a new Sainsbury's is not going to be that large. I think the biggest boost to the town will be a proper Multiplex.

I would not be surprised if Debenhams took the opportunity and moved into a modern unit.

As for the Bus station indoor market idea, I'm not sure it will work. If retail focus is dragged away to the West, I'm not sure why people will suddenly go the market. If they want a successful indoor market, they'd be better off trying to build one as part of the Maltings.
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