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Old August 25th, 2013, 09:59 AM   #21
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Will they only be serving Freedom Fries™ and Liberty Toast™ there?
Now that you mentioned it, it does not sound that bad. I'd probably like to try some.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 05:13 AM   #22
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According to the latest plan for the World Trade Center complex, it seems like 5WTC and the Performing Arts Center are both scrapped... Hopefully this is not the case.

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Old August 30th, 2013, 05:52 AM   #23
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Let's wait until at least 2WTC starts. I think the last thing they want to think about is 5WTC...
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Old August 31st, 2013, 02:46 AM   #24
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According to the latest plan for the World Trade Center complex, it seems like 5WTC and the Performing Arts Center are both scrapped... Hopefully this is not the case.

5 WTC will not be scrapped. It's a very valuable site.
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Old August 31st, 2013, 05:34 AM   #25
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White space just means "site to be developed". At least that's how's labeled on the coordination plans.
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Old September 7th, 2013, 06:00 PM   #26
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I hope they don't do something wacky for this building or 5 WTC. If 4 WTC is modest, these buildings should be even more modest.

And speaking of 5 WTC, does anyone have a thread to the building?
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Old January 7th, 2014, 07:02 PM   #27
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Seems like things are finally moving forward, we should get a clearer picture of what will be built within the next few months.

New Team Said to Establish Vision for WTC Performance Center

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It will be years before the curtain rises on a performing arts center at the World Trade Center. But the real planning has finally begun.
Clouded in financial and political uncertainty for nearly a decade, the center now has an “A team” assembled to make it happen, said its president, Maggie Boepple.

The performing arts center would be located 60 feet from 1 World Trade Center and in the approximate location of today's temporary PATH station.
Speaking to a Community Board 1 committee Monday, Boepple said an artistic director has been hired along with other theater consultants. And “one of the world’s most brilliant artistic directors and filmmakers” is now on its board of directors.
Boepple declined to identify them.
“There will be a press event to announce who they are,” she said. “I can’t tell you their names but they have started to work.”

Last January, following months of uncertainty over the Cuomo administration’s support for the center, the Lower Manhattan Development Corp. released the $1 million Boepple needed to hire consultants to determine the project’s costs and begin a planning process.
David Langford, former chief financial officer of the Sept. 11 Memorial and Museum, will be the general manager, in charge of the center’s business side.
Boepple also revealed the proposed name for the institution: The World Center for the Performing Arts.
She said the center would be technologically “smart” and referred to the possibility of simulcasting performances from its stage.

“Since it’s going to be a smart theater, that means very connected,” she said. “We take the use of the word ‘world’ very seriously.”
While performances may be seen by audiences far from New York City, the anticipated number of seats inside the theater will be more modest than expected.
“We’ve gotten away from having one big 1,000-seat theater,” Boepple said. “We’re now very convinced that what we’ve come up with will be good for the work that goes on there.”
While declining to say how many seats are being contemplated for the theater (originally there was to be a smaller venue along with the 1,000-seat auditorium), Boepple acknowledged that Frank Gehry’s showy design concept for the center was introduced prematurely.
“The more I thought about this, the more I realized we were getting it backwards,” she said. “The architect was in place. Great. We didn’t know what was going to go inside the building. You can’t design a performing arts center without having a real notion of what’s going to happen inside.”
Boepple spoke of a cafe that would be a kind of cultural hub, and other attractions beyond performances. “There are things going on all day, rehearsals, noontime events the community can come to. So the design is going to reflect that.”
Over the past few months, Boepple said, people in the performing arts community were “polled” about what should go in the center.
“We have put together a vision that the board has accepted,” she said, “and it will allow us to work initially with the theater designers to design a space that works for everybody.”
That vision, Boepple noted, is expected to be revealed in the next four months.
She said there is too much work left to be done on the site to predict when it will be completed. The temporary PATH station, next to 1 World Trade Center, now stands where the center will go.
Boepple also would not say how much the center is expected to cost, only that it will be less than previous estimates, which ranged from $300 million to $700 million.
“The numbers you heard before were unmanageable in terms of raising money,” she said, “because we want a lot of the money to go into the program and make this a very exciting place to be.”
“You can have grand architecture, people will go ooh, aah and come once,” she added. “You have to have great stuff going on to get them back.”
— Aline Reynolds contributed reporting.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 10:57 PM   #28
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I hope they choose another architect ... maybe Richard Meier instead of Frank Gehry.
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I just don't want something that clashes with the rest of the complex, but it needs something to mirror the idea that it's a performing arts center.
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I just don't want something that clashes with the rest of the complex, but it needs something to mirror the idea that it's a performing arts center.
To be perfectly honest I'd just be happy with that area being an extension of the Memorial park ... maybe a nice lawn ...
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Old January 7th, 2014, 11:47 PM   #31
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According to the latest plan for the World Trade Center complex, it seems like 5WTC and the Performing Arts Center are both scrapped... Hopefully this is not the case.

as of right now they are just put on a long hold, since the amount of office space that is needed and money to build all this is limited. Once 4 towers will be completed, then there is going to be a serious talk about next step.
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Speaking of the "World Center of Performance Arts"



Mystery Team of 'Brilliant' People Working On WTC Arts Center

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The plans for the performing arts center at the World Trade Center are moving forward, but many details remain unknown. The center's president, Maggie Boepple, updated Manhattan's community board 1 last night, and the Tribeca Trib relays what foggy details were revealed....

Boepple said an "A Team" that includes "one of the world's most brilliant artistic directors and filmmakers" is reworking the plans, but she would not say who they were. She also said they've nixed the plan for one big 1,000-seat theater, but she would not say how many seats there will be instead. Additionally, she wouldn't put a price tag on the project, but she said that it would be less than the previous $300M to $700M estimates.

The mystery stems from the team not really know what the heck the center will hold or what it would look like. Boepple admitted that the original multi-level, tree-specked design by Frank Gehry, who is still the architect, was revealed prematurely. Evidently, they tapped the architect before they even knew what they wanted inside or what exactly the site would look like. Currently, the site is occupied by the temporary PATH Station, so viewing the physical property as it would be built on is impossible.


Despite the uncertainty, there were a few concrete things Boepple shared. They are proposing to name the space The World Center for the Performing Arts, and it will be "a smart theater," which means it's "very connected." The center will have a cafe that will be "a kind of cultural hub," and there will be public events throughout the day that the community can attend.

The new designs should be revealed within four months. As for construction, who knows; an estimated timeline was not even revealed during the meeting. But if the transit hub opens on time in 2015 and the temporary PATH Station is promptly removed, maybe work could possibly begin in 2016
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Old January 8th, 2014, 11:21 PM   #33
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Anything is better than that pile of Sterilite containers, cardboard boxes, and broccoli stalks that looks like it was designed by my 5-year-old.
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Old January 8th, 2014, 11:48 PM   #34
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Hey! That pile of Sterilite containers, cardboard boxes and broccoli stalks is going to be cropping up in LA soon!

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Looks like my kids rearranged it while I wasn't looking!
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Do you think the PA Center could get the nickname "6 WTC"?
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I don't think the name 6 WTC will be used often, because "Performing Arts Center" is a very concise term and people don't mix it up with the skyscrapers around..

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The long-anticipated Performing Arts Center (PAC) at the World Trade Center is gaining traction, according to its President Maggie Boepple. In a January 6th Community Board 1 Planning Committee meeting, Boepple shared several updates about the project.

She said that as soon as this month, steel procurement for the structure may begin in coordination with the Port Authority. Already the agency has been installing infrastructure below grade at the future PAC site, which is between Vesey and Fulton, and Greenwich and Washington Streets on the north side of the WTC. Today that site is home to the temporary PATH WTC station, though PATH access will be relocated to its permanent home inside the WTC Transportation Hub as soon as 2015, when the Hub is currently slated to open.

Boepple reported to CB1 that the PAC, which will rise approximately 60 feet from 1 World Trade Center, is planned to serve as both a theater and cultural hub, with a café and public areas. Along with a growing "A-team of planners, theater designers, performers, community members, and other stakeholders -- and supported by a $1 million grant from the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation -- Boepple is turning to non-profit endowment fundraising, and establishing the final PAC design. Architect Frank Gehry is still expected to lead the design team.

She said that the project's new moniker is expected to be the "World Center for the Performing Arts," and that it will serve as both a local and global arts attraction with a diverse range of programming, on both small and grand scales. While no final construction or operating costs are yet available, Boepple explained that the Center likely will be built for less than the initial estimates of $300 to 700 million.
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Old February 13th, 2014, 07:48 AM   #39
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London Director to Draft Arts Vision for Ground Zero
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Executives developing a performing arts center at ground zero have hired a temporary artistic director from the Young Vic theater in London, one of a series of steps to be announced Thursday to advance a project that has long faced political and logistical hurdles.

The new director, David Lan, who will continue as artistic director at the Young Vic, is part of a team recently brought in by the center as it refines its plans, which now include developing its own productions and revising the design for the building, by the architect Frank Gehry. Officials said that it had been a mistake to design the theater before the programming was determined and that they were essentially starting over.
....Arts center officials said it was too early to say what construction might cost; original estimates put the price tag at $300 million to $700 million. Reached by phone, Mr. Gehry said he had not been in touch with the arts center for some time. “Radio silence,” he said. “I don’t know what their priorities are. They haven’t talked to me, so I don’t know.”

Ms. Boepple said the center does not need a full-time artistic director for now because it is not expected to open until 2018 or 2019. Its site is occupied by a temporary PATH station pending completion of a new transportation hub in Lower Manhattan.
...She also suggested that while she is a Gehry fan, the choice of architect could change. “He’s excellent at models,” she said. “We love his models.” The problem with settling on a design so early, she said, is that the performing arts center had only a hazy idea of what it would present. “So many mistakes are made when genius architects design a building and that comes before the workhorse of the building,” she added. “It’s not a comment on Gehry as an architect. It’s a different skill set.”

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Please no Gehry Please no Gehry Please no Gehry.
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