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Old January 17th, 2014, 06:45 AM   #81
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keraton, istana = palace, Yes this page is all about Indonesian palaces from different kings of different ethnic group

Banten (a city, then but now its the whole province) - once the capital of a powerful Bantenese kingdom, before its downfall in the Dutch period. In 1628-1629 Mataram Sultanate was involved in power contest with Dutch East India Company (VOC) and launched sieges on Batavia. Later Mataram was gradually weakened through struggle of successions of Javanese princes and Dutch involvements in internal Mataram court affair.

At Banten, meanwhile, Palace disputes erupted between Sultan Ageng Tirtayasa and his son and co-sovereign Sultan Haji. Sultan Ageng wished to maintain a policy of free-trade with all European powers, but his son wanted close relations with the Dutch in Batavia. Ageng's independence is shown in the letter to the Danish king mentioned above, offering to trade pepper from Banten for firearms and gunpowder.

With Sultan Haji allied with the VOC, a war broke between Batavia and Banten in the 1670s and 1680s. The result was disastrous for Banten: the VOC gained Bogor and Priangan Highlands (now West Java) and reduced Banten's power substantially, making it a protectorate of the VOC. Although nominally independent, its power was gone.

In 1752, the Dutch annexed territories on western Borneo and southern Sumatra formerly held by Banten.

In 1808 Herman Willem Daendels, Governor-General of the Dutch East Indies in 1808-1810, commissioned the construction of Great Post Road to defend Java from incoming British invasion. Daendels ordered Sultan Aliyuddin II of Banten to move the capital to Anyer and to provide labor to build a new port planned to be built at Ujung Kulon. The Sultan refused Daendels' command, and in response Daendels ordered the invasion of Banten and destruction of Surosowan palace. The Sultan, together with his family, was arrested in Puri Intan and held as a prisoner in Fort Speelwijk, and later sent into exile in Ambon.

The area is now called "old Banten"

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Keraton Kaibon ruins - palace for the queen mother

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Kraton Surosowan - Palace of the Sultanate of Banten

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the Sultan's Bathing place

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the Grand Mosque near the ruined palace, still survives

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Banten's main fortification, Fort Speelwijk

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Kraton Ngayogyakarta Hadiningrat, Yogyakarta special region, Java

After Sultan Agung, the Sultanate of Mataram was declining due to power struggle within the sultanate. To make things worse, VOC (Dutch East India Company) exploited the power struggle to increase its control. At the peak of the conflict, the Mataram Sultanate was split in two based on the Treaty of Giyanti of February 13, 1755: Yogyakarta Sultanate and Surakarta Sunanate.

The Giyanti Treaty mentioned Pangeran Mangkubumi as Sultan of Yogyakarta with the title of Sampeyan Dalem Ingkang Sinuwun Kanjeng Sultan Hamengkubuwono Senopati Ingalaga Abdul Rakhman Sayidin Khalifatullah Panatagama (His Majesty, The Sultan-Carrier for Chief Warrior, Servant and the Most Gracious, Cleric and Caliph that Safeguards the Religion).

During the era of Dutch occupation there were two principalities, the Yogyakarta Sultanate (Kasultanan Yogyakarta) and the smaller Pakualaman Duchy / Principality (Kadipaten Pakualaman).

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Kraton Surakarta Hadiningrat, Surakarta/Solo, Central Java

The Surakarta Kraton were established in 1745 by Pakubuwono II. Surakarta Sunanate and Yogyakarta Sultanate are together the successors of Mataram Sultanate. While Yogyakarta rulers are called sultans, the rulers of Surakarta are called as sunans. Like Yogyakarta there are two heredity ruling the area, the counterpart are Mangkunegara Duchy / Principality (Kadipaten Mangkunegara).

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Pakualam Palace (Puro Pakualam), Yogyakarta Special Region, Java

A small hereditary Duchy within the Sultanate of Yogyakarta. It was created in 1812 when Natakusuma (later Paku Alam I) was rewarded for helping the British quell the conflict in Yogyakarta in June 1812. It became the mirror-image of the Mangkunegaran principality in the territory of the Susuhunanate of Surakarta.

Due to Paku Alam VIII's role in the Indonesian independence movement, a law was passed to give the position of vice-governor of the Yogyakarta Special Region to the ruling Paku Alam prince at any particular time. Meanwhile, the Sultans of Yogyakarta were to hold the governor's office hereditarily.


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Mangkunegaraan Palace (Puro Mangkunegara), Surakarta/Solo, Central Java

Mangkunegaran is a small hereditary Duchy located within the region of Surakarta in Indonesia. It was established in 1757 by Raden Mas Said, when he submitted his army to Pakubuwono III in February, and swore allegiance to the rulers of Surakarta, Yogyakarta, and the Dutch East Indies Company, and was given an appanage of 4000 households.

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Few surprises here:

- Lot of temples and religious buildings which aren't islamic

- Indonesia seems so diverse that it seems for ignorant person like me who doesn't know much of Indonesia that Indonesia doesn't have clear national identity.

For those ancient or old temples, who have responsibility to keep them in shape?
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Maimoon Palace, Medan, North Sumatra (Malay Palace architecture that favors Arab + Moorish)

Built by Sultan Makmun Al Rasyid Perkasa Alamsyah in years 1887–1891, the palace covers 2,772 m² and has 30 rooms. The Palace has become a popular tourist destination in the city, not solely because of its historical heritage statues, but also because of its unique interior design of the palace, mixing the elements of Malay cultural heritage, Islam, Spanish, Indian, and Italian style.

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Few surprises here:

- Lot of temples and religious buildings which aren't islamic

- Indonesia seems so diverse that it seems for ignorant person like me who doesn't know much of Indonesia that Indonesia doesn't have clear national identity.

For those ancient or old temples, who have responsibility to keep them in shape?
Ancient temples are maintained and funded by the government and regarded as national treasure, all of them are maintained very well from what i can see..

Yes you will be expecting Indonesia to be full of Islamic domish buildings like for example Malaysia who favors them, but Indonesia doesn't have an official religion so other religion can flourish well and we actually prefer our ethnic's culture more. Half of the population of Indonesia are Javanese and they tend to keep their cultural identity first than Islamic, they also dominate the government in Indonesia. Before being Muslim Java are Buddhist and Hindus as those ancient temple shows, the tradition still play large role in Javanese day of life such as rituals which are still well-practiced. Islamic architecture are favored in Sumatra mainly by the Malays and Acehnese, whom are known to be the most religious in the country. The Malays however only apply Islamic architecture mostly in their mosques (like most of Indonesia, while government building etc uses local architecture styling), Aceh is a different story (the only province in Indonesia that have sharia law, this is due to dispute between government and those who want to break up) they definitely have Islamic influence in their buildings more than the rest of the country.

Indonesia's religious minority are pretty significant to make a large impact, even with 86% Muslim, that still mean there are 30 million+ other religious minority. Plus some of the islands are dominated by non-Muslms like Christian Papua or Hindu Bali for example.

As for identity, well each of the ethnic group keeps it with themself, yes there are no clear 1 identity since there are hundreds of ethnic group living in each different islands bearing different believes, language and tradition. To make it very simple, we are all Indonesians no matter where we come from and are unified under 1 language which is "Bahasa Indonesia", we also have national decree declaring equality of all ethnic group under 1 banner...

Maybe we take a look at UK's issue :P the Scots aren't English and would never wanted to be considered as one, but they're all British right?
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Ancient temples are maintained and funded by the government and regarded as national treasure, all of them are maintained very well from what i can see..

Yes you will be expecting Indonesia to be full of Islamic domish buildings like for example Malaysia who favors them, but Indonesia doesn't have an official religion so other religion can flourish well. Half of the population of Indonesia are Javanese and they tend to keep their cultural identity first than Islamic, they also dominate the government in Indonesia. Before being Muslim Java are Buddhist and Hindus as those ancient temple shows, the tradition still play large role in Javanese day of life such as rituals which are still well-practiced. Islamic architecture are favored in Sumatra mainly by the Malays and Acehnese, whom are known to be the most religious in the country. The Malays however only apply Islamic architecture mostly in their mosques (like most of Indonesia, while government building etc uses local architecture styling), Aceh is a different story (the only province in Indonesia that have sharia law, this is due to dispute between government and those who want to break up) they definitely have Islamic influence in their buildings more than the rest of the country.

Indonesia's religious minority are pretty significant to make a large impact, even with 86% Muslim, that still mean there are 30 million+ other religious minority. Plus some of the islands are dominated by non-Muslms like Christian Papua or Hindu Bali for example.

As for identity, well each of the ethnic group keeps it with themself, yes there are no clear 1 identity since there are hundreds of ethnic group living in each different islands bearing different believes, language and tradition. To make it very simple, we are all Indonesians no matter where we come from and are unified under 1 language which is "Bahasa Indonesia", we also have national decree declaring equality of all ethnic group under 1 banner...

Maybe we take a look at UK's issue :P the Scots aren't English and would never wanted to be considered as one, but they're all British right?
Thanks for very detailed answer. I really don't know much of Indonesia and you really don't find much information on Indonesia in internet at least not non Indonesian languages.

I feel someway that Indonesia is quite unique, lot of islands which are quite big area and population it is near to continental Asia but still somewhat separated etc.
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Thanks for very detailed answer. I really don't know much of Indonesia and you really don't find much information on Indonesia in internet at least not non Indonesian languages.

I feel someway that Indonesia is quite unique, lot of islands which are quite big area and population it is near to continental Asia but still somewhat separated etc.
Thank you, i agree Indoensia is a large diverse areas of isalnds with different people living on different environment that the island offers, so characters of different provinces would be very visible. Unfortunately not a lot Indonesian are able to communicate with English since we only uses Indonesian language for most of the time, only touristic area like Bali may have more English and maybe the capital.

Klungkung Palace, Semarapura, Bali

The Klungkung Palace is a historical building complex situated in Semarapura, the capital of the Klungkung Regency (kabupaten) on Bali, Indonesia. The palace (puri) was erected at the end of the 17th century, but largely destroyed during the Dutch colonial conquest in 1908. Today the basic remains of the palace are the court of justice, the Kertha Gosa Pavilion, and the main gate that bears the date Saka 1622 (AD 1700). Within the old palace compound is also a floating pavilion, Bale Kambing, which was added in the 1940s. The descendants of the rajas that once ruled Klungkung today live in Puri Agung, a residence to the west of the old palace, which was built after 1929

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Keratons of Cirebon, West Java

On the glistening northern coast of West Java lies a port town with a rich past – Cirebon. Formerly referred to as Cheribon in English, the town was founded in 1478 and is the seat of a former sultanate – one of the earliest Islamic states established in Java. The sultan ruled from his kraton – a Javanese word for royal palace.

In 1677, the sultanate disintegrated into four royal houses, and each left their mark to this day through four kratons in Cirebon: Kraton Kasepuhan, Kraton Kanoman, Keraton Kacirebonan, and Keraton Keprabonan. Today, the Kraton Kanoman and Keraton Kasepuhan have been converted into museums and are opened to the public for visitation.

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Grand Mosque Sang Ciptarasa nearby the Palace

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The Palace of Siak Sri Inderapura, Riau, Sumatra (Malay architecture)

The town of Siak Sri Indrapura at the mouth of the Siak river was once the seat of a great Malay kingdom that from 1723 to 1946 held sway over the seas around the entrance of the Malacca Straits all the way to Sambas in present-day West Kalimantan

The Siak Sri Indrapura kingdom was founded in 1723 by Raja Kecil Sultan Abdul Jalil, after he failed to gain the succession to the Johor-Riau throne. Nevertheless, he soon succeeded in developing his kingdom into a strong maritime nation, strategically situated at the entrance to the busy Straits of Malacca, which at the time was being fought among the European colonizing powers of Britain, the Portuguese, the Dutch as well as the Malay kingdoms on both sides of the Strait. Sultan Abdul Jalil was a descendent of the great Pagaruyung kingdom of the Minangkabau in West Sumatra.

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Puri Saren Agung, Ubud, Bali

The home of Tjokorda Gede Agung Sukawati (1910–1978), the last "king" of Ubud, it is now occupied by his descendants and dance performances are held in its courtyard. It was also one of Ubud's first hotels, dating back to the 1930s.

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Silinduang Bulan Paguruyuang Palace (Rumah Gadang Tuan Gadih Paguruyuang Ustano Silinduang Bulan), Bukittinggi, West Sumatra - the original palace of the Pagaruyung dynasty since 1550, however were burned several times in history... the current ones were rebuilt again in 1969 until in 2010 it was burned again by lightning strike.. has been rebuilt again though.

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Istana Tamalate, Makassarite palace in Southern Celebes - Palace of the Gowan Sultanate which dates back to the 17th century


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Benteng Keraton Buton (Buton Hill Fort), Bau bau. Southern Sulawesi/Celebes

Built in 1597 during the Gowan Sultanate era by the 9th king "I manrigau Daeng Bonto Karaeng Lakiung Tumapa’risi’ kallonna" and nominated by Guiness world record as the world's largest fort structure.

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Benteng Otanoha dan Otahiya/Fort Otanaha and Otahiya, Gorontalo, Central Celebes, Indonesia

built by King Hulontalo in 1525 as a result of European scramble of the trade in Celebes,.


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