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View Poll Results: Which design is your favourite?
Kohn Pedersen Fox 13 25.00%
Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill 21 40.38%
Wilkinson Eyre 18 34.62%
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Old May 11th, 2013, 01:43 PM   #21
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KPF. The others look too fat.


Will this be the new tallest of Sydney?
A poster in the Australian section worked on the AS + GG concept. They said that the AS + GG tower is in the range of 250m - 275m.

We believe the Wilkinson Eyre and KPF proposals are in the vicinity of 235m. I assume AS + GG is slightly taller because of its sloping form that narrows towards the top - they needed to go a bit taller to fill the GFA Crown requires for the tower.

As others have said, if the AS + GG concept were built today, it would be Sydney's tallest. Assuming we are correct on Wilkinson Eyre and KPF, they won't be the tallest in Sydney (1992 Chifley Tower is 244m).

Nameless Dude correctly mentioned that the Sydney CBD already has a DA (by China's Greenland Group no less) in for a 259m tower at 115 Bathurst Street. This is also a contender for the tallest in the Sydney CBD.

Across the Sydney Metropolitan Area, there is also a proposal for Parramatta (23km west of the Sydney CBD) for a 336m, 90 storey tower that would be by far the tallest.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 09:11 PM   #22
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My understanding is that all the towers are at or around the same 250m mark - as this is the limit set by local planning restrictions.

Might be worthwhile trying to push higher for a bit of elegance once a winning bid is established - about 275m would look good without being excessive IMO, but you have to have a level playing field and a common brief for a competition.
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Old May 15th, 2013, 01:18 PM   #23
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Agreed.

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Old May 15th, 2013, 04:54 PM   #24
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CROWN BARANGAROO WINNING CONCEPT

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Winning Barangaroo design from British architects Wilkinson Eyre
BY:JOHN LEHMANN From: The Daily Telegraph May 16, 2013 12:00AM

A FUTURISTIC design featuring a white veil of sculptured glass rising up to 250m above Sydney Harbour has won James Packer's global competition to create his dream casino resort at Barangaroo.

British architects Wilkinson Eyre will today be awarded the prestigious assignment of designing what Mr Packer expects will be Sydney's most recognisable building since the Opera House was completed 40 years ago.

The winning design, unanimously selected by a judging panel assembled by Crown Resorts, takes its inspiration from three twisting petals and will cost up to $1.5 billion to bring to life.

Mr Packer, the Crown Resorts chairman, told The Daily Telegraph last night he was certain the Wilkinson Eyre design would deliver a truly special landmark, which would house the six-star Crown Sydney resort.

"When completed, Crown Sydney will be instantly recognisable around the world. Its iconic curves and fine lines celebrate the Harbour and create an architectural 'postcard' that will help attract international tourists and assist Sydney to compete with other global destinations," he said.

Mr Packer is engaged in a billion-dollar battle with casino rival, Echo Entertainment's The Star, to convince the O'Farrell government to grant Crown a casino licence in Sydney when Star's exclusive gaming arrangements end in 2019.

Wilkinson Eyre, which created Singapore's acclaimed Gardens by the Bay and China's Guangzhou International Finance Center, won the $10 million design brief over two other internationally acclaimed architects, Chicago's Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill and New York's Kohn Pedersen Fox.

Wilkinson Eyre founding director Chris Wilkinson said it was a privilege to design such a significant waterfront building in "one of the most beautiful cities in the world".

"My ambition is to create a sculptural form that will rise up on the skyline like an inhabited artwork, clad in a white veil of glass with differing levels of transparency, striking a clear new image against the sky," he said.

Wilkinson Eyre director Paul Baker, who first became aware of Barangaroo when he stayed with friends at Balmain 25 years ago, said the curved surfaces of the tower were conceived using cutting-edge, three-dimensional technology that had "not been possible until now".

Former prime minister Paul Keating, who has run a long campaign for a world-class redevelopment of the Barangaroo foreshore, has described the design as "very promising".

The main tower is expected to stand between 235m and 250m tall and house exclusive high-roller gaming rooms as well as villas and private apartments.

The hotel will be housed in the smaller tower, while the lower-level podium will feature sundecks and an infinity pool.

A reflecting pool will extend out from restaurants and cafes at the base of the tower.

In a bid to shut down Crown's plan and protect its exclusive licence, The Star will submit plans to the Premier by June 21.

The plans are expected to focus on developing further tourist-related infrastructure around its Pyrmont venue.

The government has engaged former Future Fund chairman David Murray to assess which proposal will deliver the greatest benefit to NSW in terms of increased taxes and tourism.

If Crown wins the contest the final design, including the tower's height, will require approval by the Barangaroo Delivery Authority and the NSW Department of Planning and Infrastructure.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226643408451
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Old May 16th, 2013, 11:49 AM   #25
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Frankly I think they're all the same. That's what you get for inviting 3 starchitects presenting the same predictable blandness that could have been designed everywhere. None of them look like a Sydeyscraper.

If you're doing a contest, why not invite a local or up and coming young guy with fresh ideas?
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Old May 16th, 2013, 08:22 PM   #26
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Frankly I think they're all the same. That's what you get for inviting 3 starchitects presenting the same predictable blandness that could have been designed everywhere. None of them look like a Sydeyscraper.

If you're doing a contest, why not invite a local or up and coming young guy with fresh ideas?
What does a 'Sydneyscraper' look like? Do you mean the design should have copied one of these? A genuine (slightly puzzled) question - I'm not saying anything one way or the other about the quality of Sydney's skyline.

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Maybe it means it looks too safe, generic and it doesn't bring something original, any architectural vernacular to this prominent site?

Paul Keating, former prime minister and ardent Sydneyphile, has given it his tick of approval, saying it has the qualities of a Brancusi sculpture.
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Old May 17th, 2013, 05:58 AM   #28
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Old May 17th, 2013, 08:26 AM   #29
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[QUOTE=Sky_Is_The_Limit;103017329]Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill













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Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill Architecture (AS+GG) is dedicated to the design of high-performance, energy-efficient architecture on an international scale. AS+GG's practice includes architecture, interior design, urban planning and sustainable design
Designers have experience in a wide range of building types, including tall towers, large-scale mixed-use complexes, corporate offices, exhibition and cultural facilities, civic and public spaces, hotel and residential developments, high-tech laboratory facilities and sustainable master plans. AS+GG was founded in 2006 by partners Adrian Smith, Gordon Gill and Robert Forest; today there are 100 employees in offices in Chicago and Beijing
AS+GG’s current work includes the Kingdom Tower in the Saudi Arabian city, Jeddah. Kingdom Tower will overtake Dubai’s Burj Khalifa as the world's tallest building. Adrian Smith was the architect for the Burj Kahlifa.



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Old May 17th, 2013, 07:27 PM   #30
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Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill!!

it has a cutting edge! (almost literally... )
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Old July 6th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #31
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More renders of the winning design by Wilkinson Eyre.

Crown this week received the green light to proceed to Stage 3 of the NSW Government's economic appraisal process. Crown intends on commencing construction next year but is yet to submit a Development Application to the planning department.

http://www.crownsydneyhotel.com/node/50

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WHAT CROWN HAS PROPOSED;
Crown Sydney Submission

(ii) Hotel
• Luxury six-star hotel with 350 rooms and suites
• Crystal Club VIP amenity floor
• Luxury roof top infinity pool, spa and gymnasium facilities

(iii) Restaurants/Bars/Retail
• Five restaurants (including a roof-top restaurant)
• Three bars (including nightclub/lounges)
• Luxury retail tenancies

(iv) VIP gaming facilities
• The VIP gaming facilities at Crown Sydney will comprise world-class private gaming rooms and
luxury gaming salons for international, interstate and local members
• No poker machines
• No low limit tables
• The VIP gaming facilities will be for members only – no general public

(v) Apartments
Approximately 80 luxury residential apartments (subject to relevant approvals)

(vi) Associated tourist attractions
To attract international tourists and entice them to repeat their visit, tourism operators must provide unique and memorable experiences. The Crown Sydney Hotel Resort will provide a number of unique attractions as a part of its package to international tourists and VIP travellers:
• The Ellerston Retreat (section 6.5(a) for details);
• The Perisher Ski Resort (section 6.5(b) for details); and
• Crown is also working with renowned architects and designers to develop concepts for other tourist attractions, which will complement the Crown Sydney Hotel Resort experience and contribute to the overall tourism appeal of Barangaroo. Crown and its management have international experience
with incorporating attractions in resorts, which have become iconic features of their host city and must-see tourist attractions.

(vii) Training colleges and indigenous employment
Crown Sydney training colleges will be established at the following locations in partnership with the NCIE and the Penrith Panthers Group:
• Penrith—at the Penrith Panthers Group’s proposed community centre; and
• Redfern—at the NCIE training facility.

(viii) Project Partners
1. The NCIE;
2. United Voice;
3. Penrith Panthers Group;
4. Mission Australia; and
5. Lend Lease.

(ix) Project delivery dates
Crown’s estimated timetable for construction of the Crown Sydney Hotel Resort involves a total of approximately 60 to 70 months including:
• Specifications and design – approximately 4 to 6 months;
• Approvals – approximately 6 to 12 months;
• Tender and Negotiation – approximately 4 to 6 months;
• Construction – approximately 42 months; and
• Pre-opening – approximately 3 months.

The hotel (including restaurants, bars and retail) at Crown Sydney is expected to open in 2018 and the VIP gaming facilities are expected to open in November 2019.

FULL REPORT: http://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/...Submission.pdf
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Hmm, a skyscraper shaped like a woman's lady parts. I guess that makes a change from all the phallic buildings..
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Old July 7th, 2013, 07:14 AM   #33
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Should have been referred to as a 'ladyscraper' .
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In some angles it looks fat, and not as elegant as AS+GG project.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 03:52 PM   #35
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If you're talking about this image, they're actually two separate buildings.

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Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill is my favourite. Very slick tower design and a spectacular entrance.
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It's a toss up for me between KPF and Wilkinson Eyre. I can't stand the Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill proposal.
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