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Old May 10th, 2013, 10:15 AM   #1
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First supertall?

Am I correct in believing the Chrysler Building was the first supertall tower?
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Old May 10th, 2013, 10:47 AM   #2
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Old May 10th, 2013, 12:44 PM   #3
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I'd give that honour to the Eiffel Tower.
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Old May 11th, 2013, 11:21 PM   #4
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Eiffel Tower = first 1000 ft structure
Chrysler Building = first 1000 ft Skyscraper
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Am I correct in believing the Chrysler Building was the first supertall tower?
yes,but in roof height Chrysler Building has just 282m(spire 319m).
the first supertall by roof height is Empire State Building 381m(spire 443m).
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Old May 13th, 2013, 12:11 PM   #6
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yes,but in roof height Chrysler Building has just 282m(spire 319m).
the first supertall by roof height is Empire State Building 381m(spire 443m).
I also share this opinion, i think the first super-tall was Empire State Building..
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Old May 13th, 2013, 01:08 PM   #7
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Eiffel Tower = first 1000 ft structure
Chrysler Building = first 1000 ft Skyscraper
Agree and one could argue that a structure should count as a super tall. Btw, do people count 1000 ft or 300 m as the threshold for super tall? I thought it was 300 m as only the US, Liberia, and Burma use British Imperial Units these days.
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For me the Eiffel tower was the first supertall and the Empire State Building was the second one
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The ESB was indeed the second one, but the Eiffel Tower is imo a Lattice tower and therefore not considered as supertall.
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Agree and one could argue that a structure should count as a super tall. Btw, do people count 1000 ft or 300 m as the threshold for super tall? I thought it was 300 m as only the US, Liberia, and Burma use British Imperial Units these days.
I'm going with the Chrysler building, and yes you are right according to the CTBUH. A supertall begins roughly at 985 feet if you convert 300 meters into feet. That means in the U.S. Chicago has 6 and Houston has 2 instead of just the one.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 08:01 PM   #11
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Agree and one could argue that a structure should count as a super tall. Btw, do people count 1000 ft or 300 m as the threshold for super tall? I thought it was 300 m as only the US, Liberia, and Burma use British Imperial Units these days.
"Supertall" is a completely subjective term, so it would depend on who's talking. If a group like CTBUH or some people SSC have an opinion, that can lend more credence, but it's still subjective.
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For me a SupertaLL begins at the 1000ft mark.
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Old May 17th, 2013, 03:19 AM   #13
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I think the reason that the definition of supertall is at 300m at the first place is because of its closeness to 1000ft- which is substantially less arbitrary than 300m.
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