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Old May 21st, 2013, 05:46 PM   #21
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Old May 21st, 2013, 06:06 PM   #22
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I'd prefer a revival of Dubai Towers over a 1km tower. Or maybe both, that would be ideal.
From the article it looks like its both.

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There'll probably be a placeholder first, if they had chosen a design it would have been in the news.
Obviously. At the moment they are only considering the tower there. If they decide were it goes we'll see placeholders. Then design contest will take place which most likely will be confidential. Only after that we'll see some renders of the actual thing. I think that's two years if we're lucky. One's for sure when this tower begins construction Kingdom Tower will be at least half way up.

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Yes, you're probably right, unless ofcourse the Dubai Towers design is souped up so that the tallest of the "dancing flames" is stretched upwards to 1,000m
No way. That design is super complicated for a supertall forget megatall and not even mention 1000m tall dancing tower

That is unless you mean just the location. They can always replace the tallest tower with a 1000m design but I'm not sure of the resulting effect.
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Old May 21st, 2013, 06:29 PM   #23
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Another proposed world's tallest for Dubai, when will all of this madness end?
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Old May 21st, 2013, 06:37 PM   #26
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No way. That design is super complicated for a supertall forget megatall and not even mention 1000m tall dancing tower

That is unless you mean just the location. They can always replace the tallest tower with a 1000m design but I'm not sure of the resulting effect.
I meant that the tallest Dancing Tower could always be souped up in some way, either through a design change, or an engineering breakthrough
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Well it definitely won't be a wavy tower if that's what you expect.
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Old May 21st, 2013, 07:12 PM   #28
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Another proposed world's tallest for Dubai, when will all of this madness end?
i've no notion where this will end .

With this one, i'm quite sceptical until now.
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Old May 21st, 2013, 08:45 PM   #29
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Well, this is a big surprise to see that thread today.

We haven't heard about Dubai for years now, I suddenly a wild 1000+ meter tower appears
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Old May 21st, 2013, 10:16 PM   #30
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amazing news! Dubai Towers Dubai was one of my favorite projects in dubai and i was devastated when it got cancelled, now that the site is back up they can make up for that by building the world's tallest. I will push this tower into the SSP diagrams, but i will leave the status on vision until we get further information on the tower. These news came earlier than expected though, if this tower gets a go and starts rising before Kingdom Tower is halfway up we have a kind of race to see what the buildings will do at the end. both towers will certainly not reveal the final height until very late into construction, so it will be very interesting to see which tower will get the upper hand in the end. Emaar pointed out that he had plans for building a new tallest a few weeks/months ago already. now that they release the final location makes me think that the plans are further already than we might expect. maybe there are concept designs already and they keep them secret for the while? very many possibilities and i am very excited to see how this will turn out. Emaar delivered before afterall and against Azerbaijan Tower and J220 a building in dubai does not seem to unrealistic to me to become a realization.

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Well, this is a big surprise to see that thread today.

We haven't heard about Dubai for years now, I suddenly a wild 1000+ meter tower appears
well, we knew emaar was planning the world's tallest building in dubai again, but i agree that it is quite surprising the news come out now, i was expecting it to come out later this year or next year, but maybe with the threat from Jeddah, he wanted to point the eyes on him before KT starts rising above the ground.

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From the article it looks like its both.
did i miss something? i can only see the dubai towers in the photos back from 2007, i doubt they have any plans of revising them, yet i am too excited right now and might overread half of the stuff

nvm found the part: "In 2010, DPG had confirmed to this website that the even plan to develop the iconic Signature Towers, formerly known as the Dancing Towers, the centerpiece of the master development, had not been scrapped." Yet they also mentioning reviewing the signature towers, so i also think the designs are likely to change, although i really hope they will not.

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Old May 21st, 2013, 11:50 PM   #31
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I will push this tower into the SSP diagrams, but i will leave the status on vision until we get further information on the tower.
I changed to to proposed as it fits the definition (a developer is proposing it) - http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=15524
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seems as though the only reason they are making this building this high is to ensure Dubai retakes the WTB title after the Kingdom Tower is built.
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Old May 21st, 2013, 11:58 PM   #33
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At this point 1000m for Dubai is nothing special.

only 1km? COMMON Dubai, you can do better!

Build a 4-6km.. now THAT would be impressive (for dubai ofc.)
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 12:07 AM   #34
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I changed to to proposed as it fits the definition (a developer is proposing it) - http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=15524
fair enough, hoping the tower will never see the vision status again

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seems as though the only reason they are making this building this high is to ensure Dubai retakes the WTB title after the Kingdom Tower is built.
i am certainly okay with that
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 11:29 AM   #35
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well, we knew emaar was planning the world's tallest building in dubai again, but i agree that it is quite surprising the news come out now, i was expecting it to come out later this year or next year, but maybe with the threat from Jeddah, he wanted to point the eyes on him before KT starts rising above the ground.
Seeing as how Emaar is involved intimately in the KT's construction as well, I wonder what they will do in terms of ensuring Dubai ends up with the WTB title at the end of the construction of the two towers. One to watch.

Also think you're right re the design. They probably have a concept design hidden away somewhere. All makes sense now, especially after Emaar announced a couple of week's ago that it was time for Dubai to get another mega-tall in the form of a new WTB!
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amazing news! Dubai Towers Dubai was one of my favorite projects in dubai and i was devastated when it got cancelled, now that the site is back up they can make up for that by building the world's tallest. I will push this tower into the SSP diagrams, but i will leave the status on vision until we get further information on the tower. These news came earlier than expected though, if this tower gets a go and starts rising before Kingdom Tower is halfway up we have a kind of race to see what the buildings will do at the end. both towers will certainly not reveal the final height until very late into construction, so it will be very interesting to see which tower will get the upper hand in the end. Emaar pointed out that he had plans for building a new tallest a few weeks/months ago already. now that they release the final location makes me think that the plans are further already than we might expect. maybe there are concept designs already and they keep them secret for the while? very many possibilities and i am very excited to see how this will turn out. Emaar delivered before afterall and against Azerbaijan Tower and J220 a building in dubai does not seem to unrealistic to me to become a realization.
Not sure why would they keep concept designs in secret. I simply think this project is still at very early stage. It's enough to say few months ago they didn't even know in which country they will build it. But anyway concept design is not much of a deal. Since it doesn't represent the final product it can be quickly prepared by cheap design studio. Thing that takes real time is making the final design, then soil testing ground, adjusting foundation or choosing best location for the tower based on test results. Even assuming this tower won't require any excavation as Kingdom Tower I can't imagine it beginning construction sooner than after two years from now. And before it can start racing with the kingdom tower they have to make foundation first and that's at least another year you have to add. So that's a minimum of three. KT will be easily halfway up. And as I said that's absolute minimum. History shows that it very well may take much longer to start this project. Kt took it 6 years, similar with nakheel tower. IMO there won't be much race between these two. If Azerbaijan Tower is not stunt then it may be your eventual competitor for new emaar tower, it definitely won't be "racing" with kingdom tower.
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Seeing as how Emaar is involved intimately in the KT's construction as well ...
But are they still involved in KT? My guts tells me they aren't anymore .... I am just speculating, I don't know anything
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But are they still involved in KT? My guts tells me they aren't anymore .... I am just speculating, I don't know anything
Well given that they are master planning KAEC, they would have to be intimately involved with the details of the tower, atleast. I mean there were rumours swirling a while ago about KT not being able to reach the 1,000m mark due to poor soil and subsurface conditions, but who knows!

I am keen to see Emaar get a concept design out for this one. Would be nice if they used somebody other than SOM so we get something more unique in terms of the finished product. Would not like to see a KT-BK hybrid!
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Not sure why would they keep concept designs in secret. I simply think this project is still at very early stage. It's enough to say few months ago they didn't even know in which country they will build it. But anyway concept design is not much of a deal. Since it doesn't represent the final product it can be quickly prepared by cheap design studio. Thing that takes real time is making the final design, then soil testing ground, adjusting foundation or choosing best location for the tower based on test results. Even assuming this tower won't require any excavation as Kingdom Tower I can't imagine it beginning construction sooner than after two years from now. And before it can start racing with the kingdom tower they have to make foundation first and that's at least another year you have to add. So that's a minimum of three. KT will be easily halfway up. And as I said that's absolute minimum. History shows that it very well may take much longer to start this project. Kt took it 6 years, similar with nakheel tower. IMO there won't be much race between these two. If Azerbaijan Tower is not stunt then it may be your eventual competitor for new emaar tower, it definitely won't be "racing" with kingdom tower.
One key difference between KAEC and The Lagoons is the the site prep at The Lagoons is far more advanced and I suspect that much of the infrastructure is already in place. One to watch!
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