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Old June 11th, 2013, 03:02 AM   #201
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Dallas-Fort Worth?

*Edit - Fort Worth doesn't have any buildings over 600ft

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Old June 11th, 2013, 09:40 AM   #202
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A Seoul-Incheon would climb to 25,070. Maybe you could make 3 entries in cases like this:


1. Seoul

1.5 Seoul-Incheon (highlighted in a different colour or starred), and numbered differently so rank doesnt change

2. Incheon
If Seoul and Incheon are conjoined, we should add Bucheon.
Because Bucheon is located right between Seoul and Incheon, which connects and bridges two cities as one metropolis.
It has to be Seoul-Bucheon-incheon.

Of course, Bucheon has 2 buildings over 600 ft (I even didn't mention it because it is only 1,571 ft (under 3,000 ft)

Bucheon
792 ft Kumho Richensia tower 2
781 ft kumho Richensia tower 1

Bucheon = 1,572 ft
This is the source
http://www.emporis.com/city/bucheon-southkorea
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Old June 11th, 2013, 09:47 AM   #203
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ok this is the thing, a spanner in the works if ya like...

what about cities that are fully, physically conjoined (in effect the same urban area, not even separated by rivers?)

Tokyo-Yokohama (Yokohama at left part of Tokyo bay)



Seoul-Incheon (Incheon dark purple, directly parallel at left, by the sea)


You got the point.
I was also wondering why Tokyo and Yokohama are conjoined as one city while Seoul and Incheon are separated as two diffrent cities?
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Old June 11th, 2013, 12:25 PM   #204
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Add.

Bangkok

997 - Baiyoke Tower II Ratchathewi
873 - The River Tower A
810 - State Tower
771 - Centara Grand Hotel
748 - The Met
745 - Empire Tower 1
725 - Jewelry Trade Center
695 - Amanta Lumpini
689 - China Resources Tower
682 - Thai Farmer Bank Headquarters
669 - Central World Tower
666 - Q. House Lumpini
663 - The Pano
663 - RHYTHM Pahon-Ari
663 - Terminal 21
653 - Millenium Residence 2
653 - Millenium Residence 3
646 - Thai Wah Tower II
646 - Grande Centre Point
640 - Sinn Sathorn Tower
633 - Hansa Residence Tower
630 - Millenium Residence 1
630 - Millenium Residence 4
627 - Sathorn Square
623 - Cyber World Tower I
617 - Empire Place
613 - United Center
613 - Abdulrahim Place
610 - Column Tower
607 - St. Regis Hotel & Residences (T/O)

Total = 20,500
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Old June 11th, 2013, 03:46 PM   #205
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If Seoul and Incheon are conjoined, we should add Bucheon.
Because Bucheon is located right between Seoul and Incheon, which connects and bridges two cities as one metropolis.
It has to be Seoul-Bucheon-incheon.

Of course, Bucheon has 2 buildings over 600 ft (I even didn't mention it because it is only 1,571 ft (under 3,000 ft)

Bucheon
792 ft Kumho Richensia tower 2
781 ft kumho Richensia tower 1

Bucheon = 1,572 ft
This is the source
http://www.emporis.com/city/bucheon-southkorea
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?

OK let's just keep it as a 'Seoul-Incheon' moniker, but add Bucheon too (rather like how Tokyo-Yokohama is really Tokyo-Kawasaki-Yokohama). The count now goes up to 26,641.

I'll edit it in.
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Old June 11th, 2013, 03:54 PM   #206
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]Update
(incl. Cities ~3,000 ft +)

Hong Kong 77,349
New York 68,830
Dubai 62,210
Shanghai 47,319
Chicago 33,345
Shenzhen-Dongguan 30,901
Shenzhen 29,303
Tokyo-Yokohama 27,653
Seoul-Incheon 26,641
Tokyo 26,014
Guangzhou-Foshan 22,858
Singapore 22,568
Guangzhou 21,566
Tianjin 21,026
Bangkok 19,210
Seoul 17,972
Jakarta 17,457
Busan 17,316
Chongqing 17,141
Nanjing 16,115
Kuala Lumpur 15,736
Panama City 15,316
Manila 14,793
Abu Dhabi 13,409
Houston 13,325
Toronto 10,904
Moscow 10,899
Dalian 10,537
Los Angeles 9,581
Doha 9,580
Shenyang 8,635
Mumbai 8,599
Qingdao 8,494
Beijing 8,300
Atlanta 8,040
Wuhan 7,756
Melbourne 7,734
Incheon 7,168
Dallas 7,107
Sydney 6,763
Osaka 6,541
Goyang 6,032
Miami 6,001
Hangzhou 5,784
Macau 5,357
Mecca 5,186
London 5,080
Wuxi 5,013
Philadelphia 4,924
Frankfurt 4,901
Chengdu 4,729
San Francisco 4,702
Kuwait City 4,458
Nanchang 4,207
Manama 3,887
Paris 3,853
Seattle 3,796
Brisbane 3,683
Taipei 3,571
Calgary 3,467
Suzhou 3,463
Pittsburgh 3,432
Riyadh 3,392
Boston 3,354
Sharjah 3,319
Xiamen 3,281
Montreal 3,180
Madrid 3,169
Hwaseong 3,028
Minneapolis 2,990
Gold Coast 2,932
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Old June 11th, 2013, 11:57 PM   #207
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^Guys if you're doing then add buildings from Jersey to NYC.

You guys have not listened to the original rules at all
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Old June 12th, 2013, 12:41 AM   #208
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Yeah since when did Shenzhen and Dongguan become the same city. Just because they are close doesn't mean that they can or should be counted together. Just seems like an easy way to cheat to me. How about combining Shenzhen and Hong Kong, they are close together. Those two (or one should I say) would win hands down.

Jersey City isn't counted with New York.

Come on guys this is common sense, each city is separate and needs to stay that way in this thread.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 06:08 AM   #209
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Yeah since when did Shenzhen and Dongguan become the same city. Just because they are close doesn't mean that they can or should be counted together. Just seems like an easy way to cheat to me. How about combining Shenzhen and Hong Kong, they are close together. Those two (or one should I say) would win hands down.

Jersey City isn't counted with New York.

Come on guys this is common sense, each city is separate and needs to stay that way in this thread.
An easy way to cheat? Common sense? and bash smilie at the end of the sentence.

Well, in humble opinion, I think that the spliff fairy was just trying to help and contribute to this thread in his way even if your original rule was written on the first page.
Maybe, he merely wanted to point out that some megacities' real boundaries are unclaer and need to be conjoined in that case. (Of course, I am not sure he is not me)

If you don't like it, it's really easy to remove the rankings(orange color) as he didn't stir the list at all, just adding the conjoined cities on the list. It's piece of cake.
There is no need to bash. I think that there is no one who are trying to cheat. it was just simple mistakes or diffrent views.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 07:03 AM   #210
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The buildings that are on the list for those cities such as Dongguan are in or near the city center. The areas that are closer to Guangzhou are the periphery of the city (suburbia). Therefore, no buildings 600+ feet in roof height are in those regions.

Therefore, there is no need to combine cities. He is simply not trying to define the boundaries. The boundaries are there and if they weren't then it would just be one city.

It is common sense and it's not my problem you don't realize that.

Oh and rules are rules. He can make his own thread if he wants to completely ignore/rearrange the rules.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 04:29 PM   #211
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Look at the maps Ive posted.

Eg Dongguan and Shenzhen aren't 'close' - theyve melded into one (the dotted purple line is the boundary):



Nb^ Dongguan and Guangzhou are also conjoined but because of the rivers separating them I've not counted it. Shanghai-Suzhou also (but the link is too narrow), and thus also not counted. Im only doing, full-fledged cities-towns that have completely subsumed into each other, from one busy side of the street crossing to the other. Not just threaded together by tenuous links, or being 'close'.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 04:31 PM   #212
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Oh yes, feel free to add NYC-Jersey-Long Island if theyre contiguous.

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Likewise Tokyo-Yokohama

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Old June 13th, 2013, 04:40 PM   #214
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PS If you dont want to include contiguous urban areas then don't. This is also why I highlighted them in a lighter colour and included the city proper counts still in the same league (re-read my posts on the previous page). The options there if you want to include them or not.

- Also if counting City proper only, technically La Defense lies outside Paris. But it's part of the same contiguous urban area, in all but name.
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Tokyo is really massive!
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Tokyo is really massive!
That was fast editing, yet I got to see your comment

It's 182.88 meters
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Old August 21st, 2013, 08:58 PM   #217
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I think cities can be combined if the 2 or multiple city centers are really close together. Like Tokyo-Yokohama. But I think the best example is Guangzhou and Foshan because Their cities centers are like literally combined. And I think some people would mean these two cities to be one. I think Dongguan and Shenzhen shouldn't be as one city because the city center is like so far away and Dongguan's city center is closer to Guangzhou than Shenzhen. Although Shenzhen is nearly are urban but only Bao'an is connected to Dongguan. I think combining cities are ok if they are like Guangzhou and Foshan, but Dongguan and Shenzhen is just to far away to combine it.

If you think combining Shenzhen and Dongguan is ok why don't you connect Guangzhou with Dongguan because its closer to Guangzhou.
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there's a river between Dongguan and Guangzhou, although yeah either side is built up now.

As for Dongguan and Shenzhen they are fully contiguous (check it out on Google maps) thanks to a coastal strip about 10km wide. Shenzhen swirls and eddies round the mountains and topography that dot its area.

The river that separates Dongguan with Guangzhou




...likewise Dongguan and Shenzhen further south:

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Still i think that you shouldn't connect Dongguan to any other cities around the region. Also I think (opinion) that Foshan and Dongguan became so big of population because they can't get a Guangzhou/Shenzhen hukou. I have a lot of friends who live in Guangzhou and half of their families's hukou is from another province. also I saw on the newspaper that 16000 are fighting for 3000 hukou in guangzhou's metropolitan region.
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None of those should be considered for the purposes of this thread. They're different skylines in different cities. This thread is clearly about cities not metropolitan areas or agglomerations.
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