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Old May 24th, 2013, 06:23 AM   #41
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Yeah, I think Toronto might sneak in there. I know it's beyond the scope of this thread, but what would be the numbers for Manila in each of the following 2 categories (in cumulative feet): U/C, Proposed?
I don't have the data for the proposed projects, but currently there are about at least 30 u/c buildings with >600ft height in Manila w/c will be completed on or before 2016...

Most skyscraper projects comprised of 2 to 4 or 5 towers...
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I find it hard to find exact data for MetroManila since each city has plenty of u/c and proposed projects with varying heights like this one. Commercial Business District [45Towers|mix]
a cbd project in one city of MM alone.
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That's ok, I understand. 30 U/C is really good though.
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There are 12 completed buildings and one T/O building with a roof height greater than 600 feet as of last year:

Tower name: Roof Height (Year of completion)

1. Lodha Bellissimo A & B: 728 feet (2012)

2. Lodha Bellissimo C: 728 feet (2012)

3. Imperial Tower 1: 690 feet (2010)

4. Imperial Tower 2: 690 feet (2010)

5. Kohinoor Square: 666 feet (T/O May 2013)

6. Vivarea 1: 656 feet (2012)

7. Vivarea 2: 656 feet (2012)

8. Vivarea 3: 656 feet (2012)

9. Ashok Towers D: 633 feet (2009)

10. The Ruby: 627 feet (2011)

11. DB Woods 1: 623 feet (2012)

12. DB Woods 2: 623 feet (2012)

13. DB Woods 3: 623 feet (2012)


Cumulative roof height: 8599 feet
(definitely not in top 10 yet)

Please update Mumbai in the compiled list!

There may be other skyscrapers topped out or topping out soon; I'll update this list as I come upon them.

Presently, there are 53 buildings greater than 600 feet roof height that are U/C in Mumbai City.

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Old May 24th, 2013, 07:31 AM   #45
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Tapped up NYC's numbers on my phone (roof heights, completed only, no WTC) and got around 65,000.
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Old May 24th, 2013, 06:04 PM   #46
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Now let's compare the 2 monsters...

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New York City:
(only counting completed and topped out)

1000 footers:

1. One World Trade Center, 1373' (already topped out and structurally completed)
2. Empire State Building, 1250'
3. One57, 1004'
1. International Commerce Center, 1588 ft
2. Two International Finance Centre, 1335 ft
3. Nina Towers I, 1046 ft
4. Central Plaza, 1014 ft
5. Bank of China Tower, 1001 ft

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900 footers:

4. Four World Trade Center, 977' (same as 1WTC)
5. Bank of America Tower, 945'
6. Chrysler Building, 925'
7. Citigroup Center, 915'
6. One Island East, 979 ft
7. The Center, 958 ft
8. Cheung Kong Center, 928 ft

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800 footers:

8. Beekman Tower, 870'
9. Trump World Tower, 861'
10. GE Building, 850'
11. 70 Pine Street, 848'
12. 40 Wall Street, 836'
13. Cityspire Center, 814'
14. One Chase Manhattan Plaza , 813'
15. 4 Times Square, 809'
16. Metlife Building, 808'
17. Bloomberg Tower, 806'
9. The Cullinan A, 886 ft
10. The Cullinan B, 886 ft
11. The Masterpiece, 856 ft
12. The Sorrento tower 1, 841 ft
13. Langham Place Office Tower, 837 ft
14. The HarbourSide, 837 ft
15. Highcliff, 828 ft

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700 footers:

18. Woolworth Building, 792'
19. 1 Worldwide Plaza, 778'
20. Carnegie Hall Tower, 757'
21. 383 Madison Avenue, 755'
22. Courtyard and Residence Inn Manhattan Central Park, 753'
23. AXA Center, 752'
24. One Penn Plaza, 750'
25. 1251 Avenue of the Americas, 750'
26. Time Warner Center North Tower, 749'
27. Time Warner Center South Tower, 749'
28. Goldman Sachs Headquarters, 749'
29. 60 Wall Street, 745'
30. One Astor Plaza, 745'
31. New York Times Tower, 745'
32. 7 World Trade Center, 743'
33. 1 Liberty Plaza, 743'
34. 20 Exchange Place, 741'
35. Three World Financial Center, 739'
36. Bertelsmann Building, 733'
37. Times Square Tower, 726'
38. Metropolitan Tower, 716'
39. JPMorganChase Tower, 707'
40. General Motors Building, 705'
41. Metropolitan Life Tower, 700'
16. The Sorrento tower 2, 774 ft
17. Harbourfront Landmark, 763 ft
18. The Arch, 758 ft
19. Cosco Tower, 755 ft
20. The Belcher's tower 5, 745 ft
21. The Belcher's tower 6, 745 ft
22. LOHAS Park Le Prime tower 1, 736 ft
23. LOHAS Park Le Prime tower 2, 736 ft
24. LOHAS Park Le Prime tower 3, 736 ft
25. The Belcher's tower 1, 725 ft
26. The Belcher's tower 2, 725 ft
27. The Summit, 721 ft
28. Grand Promenade tower 2, 719 ft
29. Grand Promenade tower 3, 719 ft
30. Grand Promenade tower 5, 719 ft
31. Grand Promenade tower 6, 719 ft
32. The Sorrento tower 3, 715 ft
33. Hopewell Centre, 709 ft
34. Sun Hung Kai Center, 704 ft
35. LOHAS Park The Capitol tower 1, 703 ft
36. LOHAS Park The Capitol tower 2, 703 ft
37. The Belcher's tower 3, 702 ft
38. The Belcher's tower 8, 702 ft
39. Grand Promenade tower 1, 700 ft
40. Grand Promenade tower 6, 700 ft
41. Shangri-La Hotel, 700 ft

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600 footers:

42. 500 Fifth Avenue, 697'
43. Americas Tower, 692'
44. Solow Building, 689'
45. HSBC Bank Building, 688'
46. 55 Water Street, 687'
47. 277 Park Avenue, 687'
48. 1585 Broadway, 685'
49. Random House Tower, 684'
50. Four Seasons Hotel, 682'
51. McGraw-Hill Building, 674'
52. Lincoln Building, 673'
53. Citigroup Building, 673'
54. Barclay Tower, 673'
55. Paramount Plaza, 670'
56. Trump Tower, 664'
57. Bank of New York Building, 654'
58. Silver Towers West, 653'
59. Silver Towers East, 653'
60. 599 Lexington Avenue, 653'
61. 712 5th Avenue, 650'
62. Chanin Building, 649'
63. 245 Park Avenue, 648'
64. Sony Tower, 647'
65. Two World Financial Center, 645'
66. 570 Lexington Avenue, 643'
67. 1 New York Plaza, 640'
68. 1 MiMA Tower, 638'
69. 1 Dag Hammarskjold Plaza, 637'
70. 345 Park Avenue, 634'
71. Mercantile Building, 632'
72. The Setai Fifth Avenue, 632'
73. W New York Downtown Hotel & Residences, 630'
74. Grace Plaza, 630'
75. Home Insurance Plaza, 630'
76. 1095 Avenue of the Americas, 630'
77. 101 Park Avenue, 629'
78. Central Park Place, 628'
79. 888 7th Avenue, 628'
80. Burlington House, 625'
81. The Waldorf Astoria, 625'
82. One Madison Park, 621'
83. Olympic Tower, 620'
84. 425 5th Avenue, 618'
85. 919 3rd Avenue, 615'
86. New York Life Building, 615'
87. 750 Seventh Avenue, 615'
88. The Epic, 615'
89.Tower 49, 615'
90. Eventi, 614'
91. Credit Lyonnais Building, 609'
92. The Orion, 604'
93. 590 Madison Avenue, 603'
94. 250 West 55th Street, 602'
95. Eleven Times Square, 601'
96. 1166 Avenue of the Americas, 600'
42. Victoria Towers tower 1, 699 ft
43. Victoria Towers tower 2, 699 ft
44. Victoria Towers tower 3, 699 ft
45. Indi Home, 696 ft
46. Sorrento tower 5, 696 ft
47. LOHAS Park The Capitol tower 3, 693 ft
48. LOHAS Park The Capitol tower 5, 693 ft
49. Manulife Plaza, 692 ft
50. One International Finance Centre, 689 ft
51. LOHAS Park Le Prestige tower 1, 682 ft
52. LOHAS Park Le Prestige tower 2, 682 ft
53. LOHAS Park Le Prestige tower 3, 682 ft
54. LOHAS Park The Capitol tower 6, 676 ft
55. Sorrento tower 6, 676 ft
56. Citibank Plaza, 674 ft
57. May House, 674 ft
58. Four Seasons Place, 673 ft
59. Metro Town tower 1, 673 ft
60. Metro Town tower 2, 673 ft
61. Tregunter Tower 3, 663 ft
62. Island Resort tower 1, 663 ft
63. Island Resort tower 2, 663 ft
64. Island Resort tower 3, 663 ft
65. Island Resort tower 5, 663 ft
66. Island Resort tower 6, 663 ft
67. Island Resort tower 7, 663 ft
68. China Online Centre, 660 ft
69. Le Point Tower 6, 657 ft
70. Le Point Tower 7, 657 ft
71. Conrad International Hotel, 653 ft
72. Bellagio Tower 6, 651 ft
73. Bellagio Tower 7, 651 ft
74. Bellagio Tower 8, 651 ft
75. Bellagio Tower 9, 651 ft
76. Manhattan Hill tower 1, 649 ft
77. Manhattan Hill tower 2, 649 ft
78. Manhattan Hill tower 3, 649 ft
79. Manhattan Hill tower 5, 649 ft
80. Manhattan Hill tower 6, 649 ft
81. Hysan Place, 646 ft
82. The Merton, 646 ft
83. The Pacifica tower 1, 646 ft
84. The Pacifica tower 2, 646 ft
85. The Pacifica tower 3, 646 ft
86. The Pacifica tower 5, 646 ft
87. The Pacifica tower 6, 646 ft
88. The Pacifica tower 7, 646 ft
89. Le Point Tower 8, 642 ft
90. Le Point Tower 9, 642 ft
91. Le Point Tower 10, 642 ft
92. Times Square Natwest Tower, 637 ft
93. Banyan Garden tower 2, 627 ft
94. Banyan Garden tower 6, 627 ft
95. Banyan Garden tower 7, 627 ft
96. Queensway Government Office, 623 ft
97. Metro Town tower 3, 617 ft
98. Metro Town tower 5, 617 ft
99. Millenium City 5, 614 ft
100. 102 How Ming Street, 614 ft
101. Enterprise Square block 1, 612 ft
102. Enterprise Square block 2, 612 ft
103. Lippo Centre, 610 ft
104. The Westpoint, 609 ft
105. Manhattan Heights, 607 ft
106. Standard Chartered Bank, 607 ft
107. Ocean Pointe, 604 ft
108. Three Pacific Place, 600 ft
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the data for the very tall commie-like buildings are not always precise, some sources indicating different heights, so is just for a general idea...
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I think HK has it beat by a little.

Oh, and hunser, 40 Wall Street's roof height is 900 feet, while Conde Nast's is 700.
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There are 12 completed buildings with a roof height greater than 600 feet as of last year:


Cumulative roof height: 7933 feet
(definitely not in top 15 yet)
Ok thanks. Someone needs to update the SSP database.
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Nice Hong Kong list. Hong Kong has the edge now, but with the current boom (especially of supertalls - 432 PA alone will add a mesmerizing 1400 feet ), New York will regain its #1 spot very soon.

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I think HK has it beat by a little.

Oh, and hunser, 40 Wall Street's roof height is 900 feet, while Conde Nast's is 700.
Yeah, 836' is 40 Wall's occupied height, 900' would be the roof then.
About Conde Nast aka 4 Times Square: it depends what you consider as "roof". The top occupied floor is somewhere at 700', but with the big roof top element (square) it's a bit taller. But I'll change it to 700', I mean New York surely doesn't need any cheaters. #

EDIT: ok, I'm convinced (from SSP http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3837):
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Antenna 1118 ft
height to antenna tip

Spire 809 ft
height to mast structure

Roof 701 ft
height to roof deck

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Nice Hong Kong list. Hong Kong has the edge now, but with the current boom (especially of supertalls - 432 PA alone will add an astonishing 1400 feet ), New York will regain its #1 spot very soon.
HK don't plan to build many "great" towers in the near future, and don't have many significant tall buildings under construction.

But if we look only at the numbers, there are lots of very tall residential towers that go unnoticed, but they will add in statistics more than several supertalls, even if they don't have a big impact on the skyline, like a supertall would do. Here is an example with a project with many 600-700 ft buildings that add up so much in statistics.
(there are 30-40 of them, not even half built yet)



Even if they are not exactly "postcard material" they are gigantic residential buildings. (50-70 floors)

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HK don't plan to build many "great" towers in the near future, and don't have many significant tall buildings under construction.

But if we look only at the numbers, there are lots of very tall residential towers that go unnoticed, but they will add in statistics more than several supertalls, even if they don't have a big impact on the skyline, like a supertall would do. Here is an example with a project with many 600-700 ft buildings that add up so much in statistics.
(there are 30-40 of them, not even half built yet)

Even if they are not exactly "postcard material" they are gigantic residential buildings. (50-70 floors)
Yeah, that could be very well the case. Hong Kong has so many huge residential complexes. Just take a look at your list, several buildings named 1-8. It surely has the mass, but it's not very attractive.

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That said, I think 600 ft is too high, not too low. 500 ft would have been better.
500 ft would be insane, at least for New York and Hong Kong. Both cities have more than 250 buildings exceeding 500 feet.
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Yeah, 836' is 40 Wall's occupied height, 900' would be the roof then.
I hope this diagram helps.



Most buildings built back then had ladders built inside them up to where the spire (flagpole in this case) was attached. The octagonal attachment just above the bottom arrow is where the highest level is located, and the ceilings go at an extremely acute, almost vertical angle from there until the top arrow. That's the roof. The Chrysler Building has a similar top. A system of ladders fo all the way up to where the spire attaches, but the floors are just full of piping, rusty ladders, and reinforced concrete.

Hope this helps. If you still need another source, view the building under SSP''s diagrams and you'll see the final stop is at exactly 900'.
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500 ft would be insane, at least for New York and Hong Kong. Both cities have more than 250 buildings exceeding 500 feet.
True, but of the top 35 cities they're exceptional cases. For most cities, you'd get a more representative number if you started at 500 ft rather than 600 ft.
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True, but of the top 35 cities they're exceptional cases. For most cities, you'd get a more representative number if you started at 500 ft rather than 600 ft.
who cares the person who started this thread said 600 ft if it bothers you so much you can go make another thread starting at 500 ft
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who cares the person who started this thread said 600 ft if it bothers you so much you can go make another thread starting at 500 ft
Adults routinely discuss matters like criteria to get a better sense of the positives and negatives associated with using it. I'm neither bothered by the 600ft benchmark nor am I the first person that brought up the matter.

So far the only contribution you've made is to bash someone who's not only made a thread about roof heights, but has contributed to this one. Go make yourself useful and actually post something that benefits this thread.
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actually let me not even bother..

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Houston

01. JPMorgan Chase Tower 1,002 feet
02. Wells Fargo Plaza 992 feet
03. Williams Tower 901 feet
04. Bank of America Center 772 feet
05. Heritage Plaza 762 feet
06. Enterprise Plaza 756 feet
07. Centerpoint Energy Plaza 741 feet
08. 1600 Smith Street 732 feet
09. Fullbright Tower 725 feet
10. One Shell Plaza 714 feet
11. 1400 Smith Street 691 feet
12. Three Allen Center 685 feet
13. One Houston Center 678 feet
14. First City Tower 662 feet
15. BG Group Place 630 feet
16. San Felipe Plaza 625 feet
17. Exxon Building 607 feet
18. 1500 Louisiana 600 feet

Cumulative Roof Height 13,275 feet
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^ Not bad Houston! It may not be very attractive to the general public, but the city certainly has quantity and height.

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True, but of the top 35 cities they're exceptional cases. For most cities, you'd get a more representative number if you started at 500 ft rather than 600 ft.
Yeah, those two are really exceptions. I guess 600 feet is the golden mean (656 ft is too "elite" whereas 500 ft is a bit too much).

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I hope this diagram helps.
Most buildings built back then had ladders built inside them up to where the spire (flagpole in this case) was attached. The octagonal attachment just above the bottom arrow is where the highest level is located, and the ceilings go at an extremely acute, almost vertical angle from there until the top arrow. That's the roof. The Chrysler Building has a similar top. A system of ladders fo all the way up to where the spire attaches, but the floors are just full of piping, rusty ladders, and reinforced concrete.

Hope this helps. If you still need another source, view the building under SSP''s diagrams and you'll see the final stop is at exactly 900'.
It does, thanks. I knew about Chrysler (there are some cool pics of the crown over at SSP) but didn't consider 40 Wall Street.
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New York City - estimated completion / topping out date for the most notably skyscrapers ( 600ft+ roof height):

2013:
- Hyatt Times Square, 600 ft

2014:
- Baccarat Hotel, 610 ft

2015:
- 432 Park Avenue, 1398 ft
- Hudson Yards South Tower, 895 ft
- 56 Leonard Street, 821 ft

2016:
- Three World Trade Center, 1080 ft
- 30 Park Place, 926 ft
- 250 East 57th Street, 715 ft
- 50 West Street, 714 ft
- 610 Lexington Avenue, 712 ft
- 605 West 42nd Street, 656 ft

Likely to rise next year (supertalls only): 225 West 57th Street (1550 ft), Hudson Yards North Tower (1337 ft) and Torre Verre (1050ft).
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