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Old June 4th, 2013, 12:21 AM   #141
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Haha, Los Angeles has Doha by a foot (for now).

Moscow and Toronto will be a fight to the death in the coming years. I guess the rivalry can be traced all the way back to Ostankino and CN. They certainly will be flipping back and forth as they jump up the ladder.
Not really.

Toronto should storm ahead. Moscow has a specific development area. They are just building all in one hit. There will be absolutely no demand for any more for a long long time after these are done. The amount of space being created is over the scale and no world city could ever fill the space built already or u/c.

The lax regulations could really bite Moscow on the backside. Creating an area where they expect 300,000 people to live and work is just ridiculous. Canary Wharf has been around for 25 years and has been deliberately planned. Only now are residential towers being included into the centre. Not even that can look after 300,000 people even with the billions of pounds it is currently spending on infrastructure.
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Isaidso, that will be a list of highrise cities.
This thread is a list of skyscraper cities, a more exclusive list.
I'm well aware of that. I was responding to a statement that this is an 'objective reflection of the impressiveness for each major skyline'. It's more accurate to describe it as an objective reflection of 600ft+ buildings since a skyline is far more than its 600ft+ buildings.

This criteria is far too exclusive to be an objective reflection of the impressiveness of skylines around the world. It's more comparable to a snapshot.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 07:29 AM   #143
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Kuala Lumpur:

Petronas tower 1: 1242ft
Petronas tower 2: 1242ft
Menara telekom: 1020ft
Menara carigali: 876ft
Maybank towerr: 799ft
Vista tower: 781ft
Menara felda: 710ft
Maxis tower: 696ft
Berjaya times square: 666ft
k residence: 663ft
Lot G office tower A: 656ft
Menara multi purpose: 650ft
Capital square tower 2: 650ft
Maju tower: 643ft
Menara standard chartered: 633ft
Troika tower 3: 630ft
Menara ambank: 630ft
Menara citibank: 624ft
Grand seasons hotel: 603ft

= 14414 FT

Impressive!
Shouldn't that Berjaya Times Square is considered to have two towers?

So Kuala Lumpur would have 15,080 FT
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Old June 4th, 2013, 12:56 PM   #144
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Wuhan

Minsheng Bank Building 289.9m
Wuhan World Trade Tower 229m
Jiali Plaza 226.4m
Wuhan International Trade Center 212.5m
Poly Cultural Plaza 211.9m
Wuhan Times Square Tower 4 208m
Hanjiang International Tower 207m
Guangdong Development Bank Tower 206m
Chang Hang Building 202m
Jian Yin Building Tower A 188.7m
Wuhan Plaza Office Tower 186m

Total: 2367.4m x 3.28 = 7765 ft
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Old June 4th, 2013, 01:23 PM   #145
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I'm well aware of that. I was responding to a statement that this is an 'objective reflection of the impressiveness for each major skyline'. It's more accurate to describe it as an objective reflection of 600ft+ buildings since a skyline is far more than its 600ft+ buildings.

This criteria is far too exclusive to be an objective reflection of the impressiveness of skylines around the world. It's more comparable to a snapshot.
Yes, that is entirely true, isaidso.
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Shouldn't that Berjaya Times Square is considered to have two towers?

So Kuala Lumpur would have 15,080 FT
Edit it in then, I just used skyscraperpage data
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It should be noted that if one used 100m (328 ft) instead of 183m (600ft), the rankings would change quite a bit. The criteria in this thread favours height over scale. A city like Abu Dhabi or Tianjin will rank very well in this thread, but far further down the list if one used 100m (328ft).

This thread will give an objective reflection of height in cities around the world, but it's not the whole story. According to this thread, Sao Paulo has no skyline whatsoever as no building is 600 ft or taller. Vancouver's skyline has 1 building in its skyline according to the criteria here. 600ft+ gives a snap shot, but it's important to recognized its limitations.
Well, I admit that my use of words wasn't the best here. However, I also see why exactly you are complaining about it
Personally I'd rank Vancouver for example much higher than lots of cities on the list.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 03:10 PM   #148
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Edit it in then, I just used skyscraperpage data
Ok then:
  1. Petronas tower 1: 1242ft
  2. Petronas tower 2: 1242ft
  3. Menara telekom: 1020ft
  4. Menara carigali: 876ft
  5. Maybank towerr: 799ft
  6. Vista tower: 781ft
  7. Menara felda: 710ft
  8. Maxis tower: 696ft
  9. Berjaya times square east tower: 666ft
  10. Berjaya times square west tower: 666ft
  11. k residence: 663ft
  12. Lot G office tower A: 656ft
  13. Pavilion residence 1: 656ft*
  14. Menara multi purpose: 650ft
  15. Capital square tower 2: 650ft
  16. Maju tower: 643ft
  17. Menara standard chartered: 633ft
  18. Troika tower 3: 630ft
  19. Menara ambank: 630ft
  20. Menara citibank: 624ft
  21. Grand seasons hotel: 603ft
Total : 15,736

*I also add the Pavilion residence 1 on the list

Hong Kong 77,349
New York 68,830
Dubai 62,210
Shanghai 47,319
Chicago 33,345
Tokyo 26,014
Shenzhen 25,957
Singapore 22,568
Tianjin 21,026
Guangzhou 20,594
Jakarta 17,457
Busan 17,316
Seoul 16,529
Bangkok 15,793
Kuala Lumpur 15,736
Manila 14,793
Abu Dhabi 13,409
Houston 13,325
Chongqing 13,086
Toronto 10,904
Moscow 10,899
Los Angeles 9,581
Doha 9,580
Nanjing 8,939
Atlanta 8,040
Mumbai 7,933
Melbourne 7,734
Dallas 7,107
Sydney 6,763
Miami 6,001
Qingdao 5,812
London 5,080
Philadelphia 4,924
Frankfurt 4,901
San Francisco 4,702
Kuwait City 4,458
Paris 3,853
Seattle 3,796
Brisbane 3,683
Calgary 3,467
Boston 3,354
Montreal 3,180
Madrid 3,169
Minneapolis 2,990
Gold Coast 2,932
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Incheon

1. NEAT 1001 ft
2. The firstworld tower 1 771 ft
3. The firstworld tower 2 771 ft
4. The firstworld tower 3 771 ft
5. The firstworld tower 4 771 ft
6. Centroad 1 623 ft
7. Cheongna Exllu tower A 623
8. Cheongna Exllu tower A 623
9. Posco E&C headquaters 607 ft
10. Posco E&C headquaters 607 ft

Total : 7168 ft
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^ Maybe you could have a second look at Seoul too? We don't have the correct data for it yet I suppose.


Panama City

932 - Trump Ocean Club International Hotel & Tower
921 - Torre Vitri
875 - Star Bay Tower (T/O)
873 - The Point
866 - Arts Tower
837 - Tower Financial Center
797 - F&F Tower
795 - Pearl Tower
794 - Torre Waters
774 - Ocean Two
755 - Megapólis, Torre
740 - Q Tower
725 - Ten Tower
689 - Aqualina Tower
688 - Yacht Club Tower
688 - White Tower
682 - Ocean One
656 - Bahia Pacifica(also known as Condominio Bahia Pacifica)
650 - Aquamare
631 - Venetian Tower

Total = 15,316


Bangkok

997 - Baiyoke Tower II Ratchathewi
873 - The River Tower A
810 - State Tower
771 - Centara Grand Hotel
748 - The Met
745 - Empire Tower 1
725 - Jewelry Trade Center
689 - China Resources Tower
669 - Central World Tower
666 - Q. House Lumpini
663 - The Pano
663 - RHYTHM Pahon-Ari
653 - Millenium Residence
653 - Millenium Residence 3
646 - Thai Wah Tower II
646 - Grande Centre Point
640 - Sinn Sathorn Tower
633 - Hansa Residence Tower
630 - Millenium Residence 1
630 - Millenium Residence 4
623 - Cyber World Tower I
617 - Empire Place
613 - United Center
613 - Abdulrahim Place
610 - Column Tower
607 - St. Regis Hotel & Residences (T/O)

Total = 17,833
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Update:

Hong Kong 77,349
New York 68,830
Dubai 62,210
Shanghai 47,319
Chicago 33,345
Tokyo 26,014
Shenzhen 25,957
Singapore 22,568
Tianjin 21,026
Guangzhou 20,594
Seoul 17,972
Bangkok 17,833
Jakarta 17,457
Busan 17,316
Kuala Lumpur 15,736
Panama City 15,316
Manila 14,793
Abu Dhabi 13,409
Houston 13,325
Chongqing 13,086
Toronto 10,904
Moscow 10,899
Los Angeles 9,581
Doha 9,580
Nanjing 8,939
Dalian 8,826
Beijing 8,300
Atlanta 8,040
Mumbai 7,933
Wuhan 7,756
Melbourne 7,734
Incheon 7,168
Dallas 7,107
Sydney 6,763
Osaka 6,541
Miami 6,001
Qingdao 5,812
Macau 5,357
London 5,080
Philadelphia 4,924
Frankfurt 4,901
San Francisco 4,702
Kuwait City 4,458
Paris 3,853
Seattle 3,796
Brisbane 3,683
Taipei 3,571
Calgary 3,467
Boston 3,354
Montreal 3,180
Madrid 3,169
Minneapolis 2,990
Gold Coast 2,932


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Old June 4th, 2013, 11:59 PM   #152
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Well, I admit that my use of words wasn't the best here. However, I also see why exactly you are complaining about it
Personally I'd rank Vancouver for example much higher than lots of cities on the list.
It was more an observation than a complaint. It's always best to air the limitations of the criteria we're using otherwise the conclusions we reach may not be reasonable/defensible.

Good job with the Panama City data, btw. I couldn't find much information regarding their skyscrapers when I looked. The Seoul list below was taken from SSP.
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Seoul

01. Three International Finance 915 feet
02. Tower Place 3 Tower G 865 feet
03. Mok-dong Hyperion Towers 1 840 feet
04. DLI 63 Building 817 feet
05. The Federation of Korean Industries Building 800 feet
06. Mok-dong Hyperion Towers 2 784 feet
07. Tower Palace 1 Tower B 768 feet
08. Trade Tower 748 feet
09. Tower Palace 1 Tower C 686 feet
10. Tower Palace 1 Tower A 686 feet
11. Star Tower 669 feet
12. Mok-dong Hyperion Towers 3 659 feet
13. Samsung Electronics Headquarters 656 feet
14. The Sharp Star City Tower A 643 feet
15. The Sharp Star City Tower B 643 feet
16. The Class 500 643 feet
17. Conrad Seoul 643 feet
18. Tower Palace 2 Tower E 627 feet
19. Tower Palace 2 Tower F 627 feet
20. Shindorim Daeseong D-Cube City 623 feet
21. Techno Mart 21 620 feet
22. One International Finance Centre 610 feet
23. Shindorim Daeseong D-Cube City Tower 1 600 feet
24. Shindorim Daeseong D-Cube City Tower 2 600 feet
25. Mokdong Trapalace Tower A 600 feet
26. Mokdong Trapalace Tower C 600 feet

Cumulative Roof Height 17,972 feet
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Taipei:

Taipei 101: 1470ft
Shin kong life tower: 801ft
Farglory financial center: 683ft
Neo sky dome: 617ft

Total: 3571ft
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Just wanted to commend everyone on their impressive display of dedication to the skyscraper cause.
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Well done guys, a quite decent number of major skyline cities is already included now on the list. Keep em' coming!


Dalian

797 - Dalian Futures Square 2
797 - Dalian Futures Square 1
722 - Wanda East Project
672 - Jahe Plaza (T/O)
666 - Dalian New World Center (T/O)
659 - Yuanyang Building
656 - Dalian Trust & Securities Tower
656 - Grand Hyatt (T/O)
655 - Tian An International Tower
649 - Wanda East Port Project Tower 3
639 - Wanda East Port Project Tower 4
628 - Wanda East Port Project Tower 5
617 - Jinzuo Plaza

Total = 8,826


Macau

856 - Grand Lisboa
738 - The Venetian
712 - Le Royal Arc
623 - Baia de Praia Grande
607 - The Praia Block 1
607 - The Praia Block 2
607 - The Praia Block 3
607 - The Praia Block 4

Total: 5,357


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01. Three International Finance 915 feet
02. Tower Place 3 Tower G 865 feet
03. Mok-dong Hyperion Towers 1 840 feet
04. DLI 63 Building 817 feet
05. Mok-dong Hyperion Towers 2 784 feet
06. Tower Palace 1 Tower B 768 feet
07. Trade Tower 748 feet
08. Tower Palace 1 Tower C 686 feet
09. Tower Palace 1 Tower A 686 feet
10. Star Tower 669 feet
11. Mok-dong Hyperion Towers 3 659 feet
12. Samsung Electronics Headquarters 656 feet
13. The Sharp Star City Tower A 643 feet
14. Gundae Posco The Star City Tower A 643 feet
15. Conrad Seoul 643 feet
16. Tower Palace 2 Tower E 627 feet
17. Tower Palace 2 Tower F 627 feet
18. Shindorim Daeseong D-Cube City 623 feet
19. Techno Mart 21 620 feet
20. One International Finance Centre 610 feet
21. Shindorim Daeseong D-Cube City Tower 1 600 feet
22. Shindorim Daeseong D-Cube City Tower 2 600 feet
23. Mokdong Trapalace Tower A 600 feet
24. Mokdong Trapalace Tower C 600 feet

Cumulative Roof Height 16,529 feet
This is wonderful! Good job.
However, you miss "The federation of korean industries building(244m, 800ft)" which is alrealdy T/O (to the roof).
It seems that everyone here includes T/O buildings on the list, right?

Also, as for no.14 Gundae Posco The Star City Tower A, there is no such a building. That is a wrong name. It's "THE CLASS 500".
This is the website of this building(Some says this building is 200m but I am not sure of it. There is another shorter version of this tower. But I am not sure whether twin one is over 600 ft or not. So I exclude it.)
http:///www.theclassic500.com/

One more, The Sharp Star City consists of 4 towers. Two towers are the same height(196m), while the others are shorter under 600 ft.

Therefore, I add these two buildings. If so, Seoul's total becomes 17,972 ft
This is the evidence of what I am talking about.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post103372876

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...seoul+starcity

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Thanks, I edited my Seoul list above. Did I do it correctly?
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Beijing

1,073 - China World Trade Center Tower 3
869 - Fortune Center Phase 3 (T/O)
853 - Fortune Plaza Office Building 1
820 - Park Tower (also known as Beijing Yintai Center - Tower 2)
784 - Beijing TV Centre
768 - CCTV Headquarters
682 - Jing Guang Center
629 - Pangu Plaza Office Building
610 - Yintai Office Tower (also known as Silvertie Center Tower 1)
610 - PICC Office Tower(also known as the Park Hyatt Hotel at Silvertie Center)
602 - Capital Mansion

Total = 8,300


Osaka

984 - Abeno Harukas Terminal Building (T/O)
840 - Osaka Prefectural Government Sakishima Building
840 - Rinku Gate Tower
687 - The Kitahama
657 - X-Tower Osaka Bay
656 - ORC 200
640 - KEPCO Headquarters
623 - HERBIS Osaka
614 - Umeda Hankyu Building

Total = 6,541
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Saigon / Ho Chi Minh City - Vietnam

861 ft - Bitexco Financial Tower
641 ft - Saigon One Tower

Total = 1,502 ft
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