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Old May 13th, 2014, 02:16 AM   #681
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... We are all here because we are interested in this project and sometimes we wonder things like "why is this taking so long?" and yeah people might complain about that because they can't wait to see a project take shape and this is a great place for that because many of us (including I would guess you) know the feeling. ... Why is this project months behind anyway?
Pure guess - Related overpromised so that they would get financing. The NYC area also had a terrible winter.

BUT, IMHO, they seem to be finally hitting some milestones. For example, today on their FB page:

May 12th is a big day at Hudson Yards! We're pouring 1,300 cubic yards of concrete on the 6th floor of 10 Hudson Yards and for the AMTRAK Gateway tunnel. This is the single largest concrete pour day we've had since construction began. Go team!

HY NY FB; photo is looking SW across top of 10 HY & you can see the concrete pump nozzle in top center
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Old May 13th, 2014, 02:47 AM   #682
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actually, TP overpromised when they said they could build the tower out of concrete as fast as it could be built out of steel.

winter was bad sure, but this tower should never have been concrete
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Old May 13th, 2014, 05:03 PM   #683
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actually, TP overpromised when they said they could build the tower out of concrete as fast as it could be built out of steel.

winter was bad sure, but this tower should never have been concrete
I assume the concrete pours went well. Maybe somebody (ILNY?, ??) will post some new photos...
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a steel fabricator was named when construction started. They are installing a very large wall around the building at around the 10th floor that looks like a transfer girder-to switch over to steel. Also, there is a storage/change house container on the site west of the building marked Stonebridge-a steel erector.
Does anyone have any info on whether a switch to steel is a real thing?

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actually, TP overpromised when they said they could build the tower out of concrete as fast as it could be built out of steel.
winter was bad sure, but this tower should never have been concrete
Sounds like a switch to steel as mentioned by mmkk would speed things up but it seems highly unlikely that they would do that to me. Seems like it would only serve to increase the cost of the materials and design.
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Newspaper of record: "south tower...concrete-frame"

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Does anyone have any info on whether a switch to steel is a real thing?



Sounds like a switch to steel as mentioned by mmkk would speed things up but it seems highly unlikely that they would do that to me. Seems like it would only serve to increase the cost of the materials and design.
We'll find out. Remember that a vice chairman of Thorton Tomasetti was quoted this month by the NYT:

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She says it [10 HY] is the city’s first all-concrete commercial skyscraper. “At first everyone was resistant to using concrete,” she said. “But as it turned out, Coach loved the idea of having loft-like interiors that exposed some of the structural elements.”
& she was photographed @ 10 HY with a caption that partly reads "which will one day be a 900-foot-tall concrete-frame commercial office building"
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Old May 14th, 2014, 02:26 AM   #686
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Does anyone have any info on whether a switch to steel is a real thing?



Sounds like a switch to steel as mentioned by mmkk would speed things up but it seems highly unlikely that they would do that to me. Seems like it would only serve to increase the cost of the materials and design.
impossible to swtich at this time. the job would stop for 8-10 months.
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Old May 14th, 2014, 05:57 PM   #687
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impossible to swtich at this time. the job would stop for 8-10 months.
It looks like they brought in the consultants yesterday (5/13/2014) to get the concrete pumping:


HY NY FB "We had some very special guests today at Hudson Yards. A big thank you to Ms. Schmidt and her class for making today so special!"



HY NY FB 5/13/2014, looking east along W30th St, NY, NY

Note that yesterday's photo above of the "pros from Dover" inspecting the 10 HY site shows the REALITY of what Brookfield's Manhattan West render conceives (below). The current reality is that the under-construction 10HY already blocks the view of 450 W33rd st/"5 Manhattan West":

Source lifted from the SSC "Manhattan West" thread

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Old May 14th, 2014, 08:10 PM   #688
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hardcore shutterbug's 5/12 "View from The Ohm, NYC"

flickr's hardcore shutterbug has posted more views from the Ohm on his flickr photostream. The Ohm is the occupied residential tower on the south side of W. 30th, which has at least some unhappy residents due to the nighttime construction activity. These views were taken 5/12, the day of T-P's big concrete pour @ both 10 HY & the east end of the Amtrak gateway project Hudson River tunnel box.

This specific view has a good overview which includes the AP HQ bldg, sliver of the open-to-the-sky Penn Station bathtub/Manhattan West, Farley PO/"Moynihan Station", j-biz memorial office bldg & smokestack, etc, etc.


hardcore shutterbug/ flickr "View From The Ohm, NYC (13)"
looking mostly east, fullres available at his flickr photostream
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hardco...n/photostream/
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Old May 14th, 2014, 08:44 PM   #689
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j-biz memorial office bldg & smokestack
So many memories... mostly bad.

I am debating when to head back over to check out the progress. I want to wait long enough so that a substantial amount of work has been completed. So I may be waiting a while...

I'm curious to know what function the space on the southwest corner of the building serves. It just looks like totally walled off dead space.
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cool shot I'm excited to see this tower steadily rise. lol @ j-biz memorial office bldg.
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"Hot town, summer in the city"

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So many memories... mostly bad.

I am debating when to head back over to check out the progress. I want to wait long enough so that a substantial amount of work has been completed. So I may be waiting a while...

I'm curious to know what function the space on the southwest corner of the building serves. It just looks like totally walled off dead space.
IMHO the NYC weather has switched to "summer", T-P has hit various milestones, so I assume visible progress will pick up quite a bit in the next couple of months. Though a lot of the visible progress for the overbuild platform will be drilling & filling of the caissons.
But maybe there will be visible progress on the lower floors of the culture shed. As you pointed earlier, there are now steel columns in that area, shown better in the the 5/12 hardcore shutterbug "View From the Ohm, NYC (2)":


https://www.flickr.com/photos/hardco...n/photostream/
View looking north, w/ 10 HY on right. His view also shows the muck pile (& probably bedrock) still remains to be excavated in the middle of the Amtrak Gateway tunnel box.
But, I assume w/o specific knowledge, that T-P will probably build the tunnel box/concrete casing at both ends & backfill first, before they finish in the middle of excavation. That being so they can start rebuilding the LIRR MoE bldg.
I only noticed today that Bloomberg had reported in March that "Related has paid the railroad $10 million to prepare the Long Island yard near the former Shea Stadium site in Queens to store displaced trains, the company said."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...ck-begins.html

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cool shot I'm excited to see this tower steadily rise. lol @ j-biz memorial office bldg.
He did excellent work documenting the area.

Hardcore shutterbug has posted overhead imagery that anybody can reference if they are looking for viewing/photographing spots on the 11th Ave viaduct, (at photo left). Exercise due caution, of course:


hardcore shutterbug "View From The Ohm, NYC (9)" 5/12/2014
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Here’s a detailed Spec fact sheet for 10 Hudson Yards to see what this thing will be made of for those have not seen it yet.


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https://onlinedocs.related.com/HYDoc...fact-sheet.pdf


Ground Floor Plan (Street)



High Line Lobby Plan
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Here’s a detailed Spec fact sheet for 10 Hudson Yards to see what this thing will be made of for those have not seen it yet.


Fact Sheet:
https://onlinedocs.related.com/HYDoc...fact-sheet.pdf


Ground Floor Plan (Street)

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Neat! There's a good agreement between the "Ground floor plan" diagram and hardcore shutterbug's "View From The Ohm, NYC (9)" 5/12/2014.

So, parking will be in the basement with supermarket & Culture Shed truck I/O to the west (left) of the ramp to the basement parking. The 10 HY .pdf is dated 3/15/2014, incidentally.

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Since it will be ; all concrete", the steel that I saw may be for the tunnel -seems too soon for the platform.

[IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5079/14000098848_933e3197b8_b.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2916/14184160572_c8c151e070_b.jpg[/IMG]
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Since it will be ; all concrete", the steel that I saw may be for the tunnel -seems too soon for the platform.



Thx, or maybe for the level under the culture shed plaza: the ground floor/Fairway Market

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that is grillage steel that will support the crane that will erect the terra firma platform area west of tower c.

all temporary.
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photo here.

columns are permanent, and stubs and beams are all grillage.

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photo here.

columns are permanent, and stubs and beams are all grillage.

Thx. Apparently the previous mentioned Stonebridge?

I'm reposting a snip from a GIF that gives a VERY crude representation of where T-P MIGHT be by the end of this year. Your guess is good as mine as to what this implies about the "terra firma platform area west of tower c" which I assume is the same as what I'm calling the Culture Shed plaza. But if they're starting to put up the crane now...


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stonebridge is the steel contractor.

thats correct. the culture shed plaza is know as the terra firma platform/plaza. that is due to start in two weeks.

id be amazed if TP was anywhere near there in 6 months.
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