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Old May 17th, 2014, 05:56 PM   #701
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guesses, FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES ONLY

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stonebridge is the steel contractor.

thats correct. the culture shed plaza is know as the terra firma platform/plaza. that is due to start in two weeks.

id be amazed if TP was anywhere near there in 6 months.
yah.

I reviewed where I got that .jpg frame from. It is apparently a crop from either frame 6 or 7 from "hudson-yards-nyc-master-plan-model-construction.gif". Amonsgt other items, my crop removed a very-faded "2013", because that .jpg frame is obviously NOT 2013.

So it's really just my guess where T-P might be at the end of this year, based upon somebody's "FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES ONLY" source material AND IIRC previous statements that 10 HY was supposed to top out in September 2014. The end of September is 4 1/2 months away...

Still, sounds like the overall HY site should be going bonkers in the next couple of months and I assume the Amtrak excavation could be totally backfilled by the end of this year and the foundations for the Culture Tower started...

Since many enthusiasts enjoy renderings AND it's a beautiful Saturday, I'm posting frame 10 from that same GIF to give an example of what somebody(s) sometime thought the construction sequencing would be:


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Old May 18th, 2014, 04:35 AM   #702
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I just made a unified thread about whole area development in NYC section.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post114137664

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Old May 18th, 2014, 04:37 AM   #703
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Old May 18th, 2014, 08:27 PM   #704
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Old May 20th, 2014, 03:26 PM   #705
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5/18/2014 photos by ILNY: good view from NJ

ILNY posted a couple of 10 HY photos taken from across the Hudson River, I assume from the Bergen Palisades in Weehawken? Union City? NJ.

The distance & the adjacent buildings give you a good scale of how far 10 HY has risen:


ILNY 10 Hudson Yards (Coach Tower) 5/18/2014


ILNY 10 Hudson Yards (Coach Tower) 5/18/2014

It looks to me like the perimeter (not the core) of 10 HY is around the same height as the USPS Morgan Station which is right around the height of the smoke stack at the undeveloped lot @369 10th Ave.

Thanks to ILNY/borough of Jersey
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Old May 21st, 2014, 12:46 AM   #706
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This thing is gonna be a beast when looking across from Jersey!
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Old May 21st, 2014, 06:49 PM   #707
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This thing is gonna be a beast when looking across from Jersey!
Yes it will. Note that in March of THIS year (2014) RE industry web sites were using the render I've reposted below of what the HY construction progress might look like at the end of 2014. 10 HY is the tall one & 15 HY is shown as a foundation/stub:


See below for a Joe Schumacher view of 10 HY (photo right) from the west side of the 11th Ave viaduct May 20th. Photo looks like it was taken just south of where W 31st would be, IF W31st extended into the LIRR's West Side Storage Yard. The render above shows a streets (W31st & W 32nd) in the WSSY that do NOT exist, but they make a good reference.
It looks to me that T-P's BG30 caisson drill is just north of the Amtrak tunnel box excavation/trench. I'm assuming it's at this location to drill caissons for the the overbuild platform and/or north end of 15 HY foundations. Thanks to j-biz for finding these jschumacher photos:


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Old May 22nd, 2014, 10:31 PM   #708
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Time to check out progress, soon?

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So many memories... mostly bad.

I am debating when to head back over to check out the progress. I want to wait long enough so that a substantial amount of work has been completed. So I may be waiting a while...

I'm curious to know what function the space on the southwest corner of the building serves. It just looks like totally walled off dead space.
Regarding progress: ghostface79 posted a photo from the HY FB page showing a couple of steel columns up for the overbuild platform, next to the MoE building:

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Old May 22nd, 2014, 11:33 PM   #709
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Yea, that's pretty exciting to actually see some vertical columns in the rail yard. May have to ride over there next week if we have some nice weather.
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 02:23 AM   #710
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Yea, that's pretty exciting to actually see some vertical columns in the rail yard. May have to ride over there next week if we have some nice weather.
yeah.

IIRC earlier this year somebody had stated that T-P was looking for at least some platform steel in May/June. Recently I was skeptical of the need for platform steel in May, BUT now...

Imagine if we have photographs of the east end of the tunnel excavation with a tunnel box in it & then the excavation backfilled...

And remember that we have statement/photos that they are assembling a crane for the culture shed plaza...

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Old May 23rd, 2014, 07:27 PM   #711
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Does anyone know why most of the block on which 10 HY is being built is left empty, while it is (or appears to be) the only block that is fully on terra firma?

I've been wondering about this for a while. 30 HY and the mall have to use a very complex foundation using cross bracing to balance over the rail lines. At the same time, aside from 10 HY, the built up area between 30th & 31st, 10th & 11th is very small: 15 HY has a small footprint, the Shed is a lightweight structure and the rest is park space.

Intuitively, it seems cheaper to build up the southern portion and put lightweight open spaces to the north. I must have missed some constraints.

Somewhat related: the project would also have integrated more cleanly into the NYC grid if it had maintained the street wall along 30th street (even if offset by the High Line), while having openings (stairs) on 10th Ave up to the platform at 31st and 32nd street, which the mall now blocks off.
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Does anyone know why most of the block on which 10 HY is being built is left empty, while it is (or appears to be) the only block that is fully on terra firma?

I've been wondering about this for a while. 30 HY and the mall have to use a very complex foundation using cross bracing to balance over the rail lines. At the same time, aside from 10 HY, the built up area between 30th & 31st, 10th & 11th is very small: 15 HY has a small footprint, the Shed is a lightweight structure and the rest is park space.

Intuitively, it seems cheaper to build up the southern portion and put lightweight open spaces to the north. I must have missed some constraints.

Somewhat related: the project would also have integrated more cleanly into the NYC grid if it had maintained the street wall along 30th street (even if offset by the High Line), while having openings (stairs) on 10th Ave up to the platform at 31st and 32nd street, which the mall now blocks off.
A few things to consider.

putting the large commercial buildings on the south

1) blocks sunlight from their small park
2) wedges residential buildings between commercial buildings to the south and to the north
3) hurts the value of their residential building they just put up at 520 W. 30th
4) cuts off access from the residential areas to the south and opens up access to some of the least pedestrian friendly blocks in the whole city. Basically everything between 41st and 26th and between 9th and 10th are dead.
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 09:45 PM   #713
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I wouldnt get yourselves too excited about a couple of columns, although it does mean they are getting closer.

I dont expect the erection of the platform to move quickly, like steel normally would in building construction. Try to think of it like a bridge...
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Old May 24th, 2014, 12:25 AM   #714
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"it does mean they are getting closer"

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I wouldnt get yourselves too excited about a couple of columns, although it does mean they are getting closer.

I dont expect the erection of the platform to move quickly, like steel normally would in building construction. Try to think of it like a bridge...
Thanks for the crane ?tower? grillage update. The photo is looking mostly east across the ground floor/street of the Fairway Market and/or loading dock/access @ the SW corner 10 HY & the High Line

As you state "it does mean they are getting closer".

AFAIK, to get even closer for 30 HY & the platform in that NE corner, T-P has to build the LIRR a replacement control tower for the yard. The replacement control "tower" has to be built before T-P can dismantle the upper floor of the LIRR building that connects to the employee footbridge. etc, etc,

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Oh jacko, at this point I'll get excited for just about anything.
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273 columns for platform: how many more left?

From the HY NY FB page today:



Did you know that there will be 273 columns used to support the platform at Hudson Yards? Well it's true. And the weight of each column will range from 4,000 pounds to 125,000 pounds!

I assume this column is one of the lighter weight ones...
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Oh jacko, at this point I'll get excited for just about anything.
And you live in NYC!

See above for an overbuild platform column resting on a couple of landscaping ties...
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Although it is not covered in shear studs, methinks that is a caisson core beam...

That doesn't look like a baseplate to me....
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Old May 28th, 2014, 12:39 AM   #719
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UrbanImpressionist has posted Mem Day photos

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Although it is not covered in shear studs, methinks that is a caisson core beam...

That doesn't look like a baseplate to me....
UrbanImpressionist of SSP has posted Mem Day photos of 10 HY and the surrounding/interconneting structures on SSPhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=399

I've reposted one of his views from the Ohm building that I think is the most relevant to 10 HY surrounding steel reaching skyward. IMHO the two recently erected columns north of the LIRR MoE building are for the new MoE building (short column) AND the overbuild retail platform (taller one):


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