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Old April 2nd, 2008, 06:36 PM   #1
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Newfoundland (Diamond Tower) | Canary Wharf | 220m | 60 fl | Site Prep

Posted this in the London thread but seeing as it is in for Planning permission it will need its own thread.
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Jeff noticed this Planning application.

Very interesting- Its the site of a car park presently Just of the roundabout opposite RS.


Full Planning Permission

Development: Erection of a 37 storey building comprising a 150 bedroom hotel (Class C1) and 78 serviced apartments (Sui Generis), together with ancillary restaurant facilities and servicing and parking areas including a drop off facility; provision of a retail unit (C

Location: Newfoundland, Canary Wharf, (Land bounded by Park Place, Westferry Road & Heron Quays Road)

Application No: PA/08/00598

http://194.201.98.213/WAM/showCaseFi...mber=PA/08/598
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 08:27 PM   #2
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Cool, so another 100-120m-ish building for the Wharf

It is fast approaching the big 40 number in terms of built or planned highrise buildings (100m+)
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 08:43 PM   #3
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That link isn't working LL. Here is another.
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 09:30 PM   #4
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February 2002 ??
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 10:01 PM   #5
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That's just something to do with the ward, the application is the most recent lodged when you search Westferry Circus.

I look forward to seeing the documents shortly
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Is it this bit of land?



If so wont that be right in the middle of the view down the docks and through the twin towers of riverside south?
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 10:34 AM   #7
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I mentioned in another thread - but this site is meant to be turned into a garden - there's an approved application for it as part of the 2002 Heron Quay's west application. They refer to it as a 'pocket park'. And it's because of the planned park that 'Park Place' gets it's address name.

I'm convinced this won't be approved by Tower Hamlets - I never thought I'd say it, but this feels like an over-development to me! It will completely block out the dock vierw from westferry road which will be a real shame.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 03:54 PM   #8
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Im guessing it would have to fill the whole site as its really not that big and alongside park place it would create quite a wall.
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Old April 4th, 2008, 11:21 AM   #9
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Heights:


145.6m to top of roof (AOD)

149.9m to top of screen (AOD)

The lower ground level for 1 Park Place is about 5.2m, so if this building is on the same level then it should be about 145m AGL. Not bad for a 37 floor resi. A building that will be as tall as Birmingham's tallest yet it won't even register on this skyline lol.

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From Jef. Keep in mind, neither him or I am sure whether this is the same scheme or not:

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Credit to Atkinson for these pictures of future residential development in Canary Wharf. I think it is the residential tower to be developed by Canary Wharf adjacent to Westferry Circus although I am not sure.







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Old April 5th, 2008, 01:39 PM   #11
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hmm seems taller than 150m, and the last image is of office space.....

if it was the Westferry residential, wouldn't the view of the City be blocked by Riverside South? Impressive triple height atrium there!
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hmm the last image is of office space.....
It is a residential tower.

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if it was the Westferry residential, wouldn't the view of the City be blocked by Riverside South?
RS is not built.
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It is a residential tower.



RS is not built.


I think what he was trying to say was that the image appeared to look rather like an office, not that he was disputing if the project in question was residential or not.

Perhaps it's of another project/incarnation of same project???
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Old April 5th, 2008, 04:27 PM   #14
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It is a residential tower.
fair do's, so what is the relevance of a breakout atrium with lots of people in suits?


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RS is not built.
very true, and I'm not contesting that point, but surely a proper representation of the view should include RS, seeing as the view from the apartments will be somewhat less spectacular than they currently appear to be.

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fair do's, so what is the relevant of a breakout atrium with lots of people in suits?

surely a proper representation of the view should include RS.
Contact: steve@atkinson-and-company.co.uk
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It is a residential tower.



RS is not built.
oh come on jef. So soon after your comeback here and already flooding us with your unfounded predictions of doom again? What about sticking to the facts like you do so well over on skyscraperpage with your really worthwhile coverage of local project news? All that CWG publizised about RS is that they will not continue construction above ground right away after basements are finished as they will not pursue speculative development in the absence of a pre-let/sale. Something we've known as a possibility since almost a year if I remember right. It doesn't mean that it will not be built at all. You really think they do all this foundation work investments for nothing? The only question about RS is WHEN it will be built. There's no question about them wanting to expand in the future and RS is their next project in the pipeline once markets will allow that. And with CW having a let rate of 99.6% this will be rather sooner than later, no matter what market conditions we will face. Some major corporations (like so many before them during the last 10 years) gonna want new UK headquarters sooner or later and RS will be one of the top choices..
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oh come on jef. So soon after your comeback here and already flooding us with your unfounded predictions of doom again?
Well... tbh... It isn't built. And as such you can bet the people selling this scheme wouldn't want to plonk currently unbuilt towers into the renders that would totally dominate those fantastic views.

I really don't think Jef meant that it would never be built.
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Old April 6th, 2008, 02:50 AM   #19
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Heights:


145.6m to top of roof (AOD)

149.9m to top of screen (AOD)

The lower ground level for 1 Park Place is about 5.2m, so if this building is on the same level then it should be about 145m AGL. Not bad for a 37 floor resi. A building that will be as tall as Birmingham's tallest yet it won't even register on this skyline lol.
Fair comparison. Just the other day I was thinking that my house would look a lot taller if it had been built in an open field.

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Old April 6th, 2008, 03:19 AM   #20
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this thing must have big rooms/ lobby etc/ or both because beetham tower manchester is basically the same height but has many more units and is also a skinny scraper.
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