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Old April 7th, 2017, 05:42 PM   #361
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As long as they install a marker that tells people, who do not know the history, why the look is as it is!
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Old April 8th, 2017, 11:36 PM   #362
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Braubachstrasse

They rebuild with original stones the old city wall here. Still looks awkward.

source Heimdall
It's not an old city wall. The Braubachstraße is a late 19th century breach through the old town, a la Haussmann.


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...Ravenstein.jpg

So this wall is historically just a "firewall" that was left over after the demolitions.

On the right

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...se-um_1910.jpg


It was remodelled only in 1940 to look like a normal street corner.



But now they decided to build this stone wall. Propably to remind the fact that the Braubachstraße is a modern breakthrough.
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Old April 9th, 2017, 12:29 AM   #363
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I think that was a good decision. Gives tour guides something quite interesting to tell
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Old April 11th, 2017, 02:21 AM   #364
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Some pictures from the Sky



Braubachstrasse 25 with tower


The house with the address "Hinter dem Laemmchen 8" or its old name before house numbers: "Klein Nuernberg" is finished on the outside.


The inner court is fantastic. Both courts, the big one and the small one. I will get pictures



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Old April 12th, 2017, 01:36 AM   #365
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Old April 14th, 2017, 01:22 AM   #366
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Are there in Frankfurt any other plans to demolish those horrible post war buildings outside the old town for reconstruction?
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Old April 14th, 2017, 05:42 AM   #367
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Old April 24th, 2017, 05:41 AM   #368
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Are there in Frankfurt any other plans to demolish those horrible post war buildings outside the old town for reconstruction?
No, and there probably won't be. While the public loves this sort of thing when it happens, they are as a whole too apathetic about architecture to actually drive further projects. As such the status quo is maintained whereby modernists build what they like.
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Old April 24th, 2017, 10:17 AM   #369
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That's not true. Granted, there's much scepticism amongst politicians (except for those from BFF and maybe AfD, FW and LKR and younger members of the CDU) against reconstruction projects in general, but with enough pressure from the public you can always get some projects forward. This Dom-Römer project was also driven by the public, so it's the best evidence that the public is not as apathetic as you say.
In the past we've already seen reconstruction of Samstagsberg, Leinwandhaus, Alte Oper, Alte Stadtbibliothek, Thurn&Taxis palais, interior of Palmengarten Gesellschaftshaus, several smaller private projects, and now Dom-Römer.
There are initiatives for a reconstruction of the Schauspielhaus, the roofs of the city hall towers (getting likely more and more), and the area south of the Römer. The need for a redevelopment of the Paulsplatz is also regularly mentioned even from city planners. The future might also bring some redevelopment around or even place of the Schirn Kunsthalle.
So there are still some possibilities for further reconstruction projects, and I bet we will see some though only few of our wishes will come true.
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Old April 24th, 2017, 07:53 PM   #370
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The city of Frankfurt was even the capital of reconstructions in the 90`s because of the amount of recos. At a different location, they are putting old monuments back to place as we speak. Keep in mind that the lots here where sold within hours thru a tombola, because of the demand. It did not slow down the demand when people where forced to proof of having 30% of the cost in cash on the account. It did not slow the demand when people where told of no store branches here. Only family businesses with the owner living here, too. People had also a very, very narrow timeframe to come forward. (Announcement of sale to sale two weeks!) Still, the demand was 10 times the properties available. Witch is the reason, that many of the new builds are going up more historical than planned! Love to show more pictures, but it is hard to get them


Anyway, there are some "ideas" being examine by the city itself to extend the reconstruction area. This is just an idea for the moment. vola:


This is the "Romer Square" The current construction is in the back of this camera angle.


The 50 and 60`s buildings could be replaced by older ones:



This is the current situation. The Romer is on the right upper side.
Dark blue is pre-war or reconstructed to pre-war.
The light blue is after-war.



The city in this study played with the idea to lay the yellow ones down flat.
The empty space would help reconstruction.
Again, Dark blue pre-war, light blue after-war and save. Yellow would go.



Now the dark red would be new builds.
The light red would be reconstructions.
Btw: The light blue/dark blue lined properties are new designed builds with part of the old design or old material, like reused ground floor



The new quarter would look like this:


One can inspect a flyer from this study. There is a big demand for this flyer.
http://www.file-upload.net/download-...t_2_0.pdf.html
All pictures are approved by Georg Zastrau and the city
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Old April 25th, 2017, 03:30 AM   #371
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I am very happy to be proven wrong I hope these plans materialise, and that the rest of Germany follows suit.

Do you have any information on the demand for the full reconstructions vs. the partial reconstructions? In the future I would like to see reconstructions fully representative of old Frankfurt, and if there was, for example, significantly more demand for the complete reconstructions, perhaps more of them will be done in the future.

And if it catches on amongst investors how well these properties sell, I could definitely see them inflating prices (unfortunate, but likely true) and pushing for more of them across the entire country. It could even become a continental trend. After all, capitalists have always been good at convincing politicians with promises of money
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Old April 25th, 2017, 06:46 PM   #372
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Wow, this is quite impressive. I hope it gets realized! What are its chances?
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Old April 25th, 2017, 10:40 PM   #373
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This is the "Romer Square" The current construction is in the back of this camera angle.


The 50 and 60`s buildings could be replaced by older ones:


The square needs 6-7 new buildings. Don't understand they don't tear down the 60's buildings and replace them with old ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfE0x0VCiHI
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Old April 26th, 2017, 12:56 AM   #374
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woow that will be a fantastic news if they decide to rebuild the old town. Finally Frankfurt will get his character back.
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Old April 26th, 2017, 02:26 AM   #375
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^ Uhm, they are already rebuilding a major part of the old town currently (DomRömer project).
They also reconstructed a lot in the post-war period and the 1980s.
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One can inspect a flyer from this study. There is a big demand for this flyer.
http://www.file-upload.net/download-...t_2_0.pdf.html
All pictures are approved by Georg Zastrau and the city
Having had time to read this, I am somewhat disappointed to see that a majority of the buildings are planned as modern reinterpretations of the old. While this project would be amazing for Frankfurt regardless, I can't help but wish it were more of a true reconstruction. Time will tell. Perhaps plans will change when given time to reflect upon the successes of historical buildings created through the Dom Römer project.

While the modern buildings would surely be nice, the true character of the old town that this flyer speaks of is in the small, quaint details, which would largely be removed.

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But the good news are: The owners live in them. This caused the situation that the "new" buildings are
becoming more and more traditional inspired.
Here the first pictures of our little Chicken Market: All "New" designs except the one behind the crane!




The pictures are a little bit big. I hope people don`t mind.




The other side. It is an ART Gallery. The "Schirn". She cuts the town in two. The road will be split in two levels with columns in between.


The Haus zur Flechte. A reconstruction. Next to it new, but also traditional because of owners demand

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Old April 26th, 2017, 05:19 PM   #378
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One aspect that seems uncompromisingly true to historic reality is the continued cobblestone use and installation process. We have been mercifully spared concrete or asphalt pavements.
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Old April 26th, 2017, 09:28 PM   #379
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On the right the"Braubach strasse 23" and on the left "Braubach strasse 23 A". Its medieval name "Goldenes Kreuz".
The little "Gasse" will become the old court appearance back with two gates. Tourists will be aloud thru, it is public space. I do not think that I introduced them jet. So, here we go:









View from the Neugasse


Here the current situation. Braubach 23 on the left and Braubachstrasse 23 A on the right. Straight ahead the backside (Hof) of the fantastic "Hof zum Rebstock" (old name) or "Braubachstrasse 19" in todays terms (since the 1800 - 1830`s)


The "Hof" site with public pass-through


The front towards the "Rebstock Hof" Hof means Court in English.


This picture is an example of what I meant before. The neighbor decided to go with open timberframe. Not like shown here, all plastered over like they used to do as fire defense in the old days




Back court again

sources: Dom Romer Projekt, Jornal Frnkfurt!
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And the "Goldene Schere" Has toped out. A "Richtfest" with some Champagne is in oder!




The Lelbach foundation has bought the plot and paid for the reconstruction. In the top of the "Haus" will come four apartments and on the ground will a café move in.

Fun fact: All buildings together will have 60 residential units, 30 stores, one museum and congress space for rent. Also underground parking for everyone as well as an underground railway station already in existence.
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