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Old April 27th, 2017, 05:12 PM   #381
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^That's right, I feel that Frankfurt would have deserved a UNESCO World Heritage site designation had it survived the war...In fact this is quite an interesting question to ask, in a different thread, of course: which German cities lost during WW2 might have become World Heritage cities.
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Definitely Dresden and Nuremberg, among others. Maybe even Munich.
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Frankfurt's old town would have been a safe bet for World Heritage, if it remained largely intact. That's for sure. It was more amazing than any other timbered old town - the only "large" cities in Central Europe where you can get a glimpse of such a feeling nowadays are probably Strasbourg and Erfurt.
If Frankfurt had survived it might have been a WHS, yes thats's true and I would certainly be in support of that. But, one has te keep in mind that "old and beautiful" as such is not a reason to inscribe. It has to be of significant importance, to be of an unique example of a certain style in architecture or directly or tangibly associated with events or living traditions, with ideas, or with beliefs, with artistic and literary works of outstanding universal value. There are plenty of old towns which didn't make the list but were unscratched by war or else. Only in the Netherlands I can think of a dozen of towns. In the whole of Europe, I reckon, one could easily multiply that with ten or more.

Secondly: There is no shortage of timbered old towns on the WHS-list, Germany itself had already listed Goslar, Quedlinburg, Bamberg and Middle-Rhine. Which, I think, is more than enough of the timbered old house theme. Adding more would simply be adding more of the same; hence one could make an argument about Frankfurt being in someway connected to important events or tradiditions that aren't covered by other sites.

Third: reconstruction in itself is not regarded by Unesco as inappropriate to inscribe. Many sites were in some way affected by war or other events and were still inscribed. In Germany one can think of Wurzburg residence, Lubeck, Muskauer Park, the Hildesheim churches, Speicherstadt and Weimar. Outside of Germany probably the best known site would be Warsaw but there are plenty of others; Malbork castle, Syracuse, Bam or Carcassonne to name a few.

Fourth: Dresden (as part of the Dresden Elbe Valley) was inscribed but got delisted because of the building of a new bridge.

Having said all that; we're planning to visit Frankfurt this year aroud christmastime. Hope most of the reconstruction will be finished by then. If not; well there is still a lot to see. Not to mention the WHS just around the corner.
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Old April 27th, 2017, 05:18 PM   #382
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That's not a too educated post though. Frankfurt's cultural and historical heritage was of immense significance as the main HRR coronation place etc., in addition to its architectural importance. Again, it'd be a safe bet for World Heritage. Maybe it even is again some day, when much more is reconstructed. After all, the reconstructed old town of Warsaw was also listed.
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Old April 27th, 2017, 05:38 PM   #383
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Call it a not too educated post and than repeat what I just said....
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Old April 27th, 2017, 06:15 PM   #384
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I'm totally familiar with the UNESCO guidelines and criteria, no worries there.
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Old April 28th, 2017, 12:50 AM   #385
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Stop! Complaining, start Your happy dance!!
Frankfurt is back, baby!!-)




The Timberframe. Here kept open for light and owners can close it up later if they like to.





















from Dom Roemer Frankfurt
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Old April 28th, 2017, 01:17 AM   #386
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The pictures are either to big or to small!
I can not change them. The owners have to.
If someone likes to see a picture in big, let me know.




Rebstock Hof




42 new roofs. 14 private reconstructions, 20 new private builds, 1 city owned reconstruction (Goldene Waage) and 7 city owned new builds. (Museum, Congress rooms)






The congress rooms are in the golden roof and the ones next to it.

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Out of curiosity, are there plans for cafes and restaurants with outside terraces in this new area? I feel that they would add a lot to the charm of the new quarter.
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Old April 28th, 2017, 12:52 PM   #388
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Out of curiosity, are there plans for cafes and restaurants with outside terraces in this new area? I feel that they would add a lot to the charm of the new quarter.
Yes, there will be Cafes, Restaurants, Bakeries, Butcher's shop, etc - a real European style Old town experience. In total, 30 businesses.
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Old April 28th, 2017, 01:54 PM   #389
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But, one has te keep in mind that "old and beautiful" as such is not a reason to inscribe. It has to be of significant importance, to be of an unique example of a certain style in architecture...
And exactly that's why Frankfurt would undoubtedly be a World Heritage Site had it survived the war. Because it was not only "old and beautiful" but it was Europe's largest and maybe the best preserved medieval timberframed old town also containing the preserved locations of the elections and coronations of the Holy Roman Emperors, the first German Democracy and other important historic events. In case of the what-if, maybe other smaller oldtowns wouldn't have made it to the list then, but Frankfurt is definitely a no-brainer.
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Yeah, just think about Goslar and Quedlinburg. World Heritage on a smaller scale, but for the same reasons of architectural and culture historical uniqueness.

@The Eagle: Please don't put those tiny thumbnail images here.
You have to click the small linked images to get the bigger ones!
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Another Dom-Römer update from the Frankfurt forum:

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old town quarter reconstruction works..












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Many of the new buildings look a bit faux. Why didn't they get stick with the original?
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I am excited!
We have the chance to see and present a lot of pictures here!
From the construction outside and inside buildings normally out of the cameras reach! Since I do not have the permission from the maker of the pictures jet, so I like to post this Link down below instead. The pictures are from a APH forum member called wissen.de. He was taking part in a guided construction tour and made us many, many pictures!


Just click the Link and scroll down. You can also look at the next pages. It is in German, on some German forum, but the pictures alone are worth it anyway.




https://www.stadtbild-deutschland.or...us/&pageNo=208
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Wow, great pictures, thanks for sharing this! The reconstructions look stunning, and to be honest I like the modernist reinterpretations as well!
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Some more:

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http://www.domroemer.de/news/aufsich...onomieflaechen

It seems the first allocations for restaurant/cafes places have been made! Quite soon we shall be able to enjoy a good beer in the Huhnermarkt!
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The reconstructions are moving along! The proof:

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^ That pic is tiny though
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