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Old June 15th, 2017, 02:52 PM   #401
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A current drone flight (one week ago) over the DomR÷mer project area at the old town heart of Frankfurt - it's amazing!

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Old June 15th, 2017, 02:59 PM   #402
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Are all those roof tops incomplete and covered in gray insulation paper? Or are they finished in gray slate?
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Old June 15th, 2017, 03:42 PM   #403
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Are all those roof tops incomplete and covered in gray insulation paper? Or are they finished in gray slate?
actually most of them are finished in grey slate! But some of the roofs are still not finished.
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Old June 16th, 2017, 05:56 PM   #404
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Nice movie. I must say that the modern buildings look quite good within the ensemble. Also the drone video really shows how the area is still surrounded by a lot of, if not ugliness then at least misplaced buildings. Still, a great start - I hope .
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Old June 16th, 2017, 09:03 PM   #405
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My impression as well^ The modern interpretations fit so well with the reconstructions
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Old June 20th, 2017, 01:48 PM   #406
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The modern buildings that can be seen already are the best that where planned for the area. But unfortunately there are 3-4 really ugly modern facades awaiting us the next months (Markt 30-34/34 and Markt 7). This might change your view a bit.
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Old June 20th, 2017, 02:00 PM   #407
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Maybe even those ones will turn out better than expected though... All we can do now is wait and see, anyway.
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Old June 20th, 2017, 09:57 PM   #408
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The modern buildings that can be seen already are the best that where planned for the area. But unfortunately there are 3-4 really ugly modern facades awaiting us the next months (Markt 30-34/34 and Markt 7). This might change your view a bit.
Fair enough; of those mentioned by you, I expect Markt 7 to turn out the worst primarily because it's right next to Goldene Waage, which is/will be a gem.
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Old June 21st, 2017, 02:27 AM   #409
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At least a lot of the modern reconstructions could quite easily be restored to their original, historical facades in the future, if need be.

Markt 7, for example, could probably be done.



Some others, maybe a bit more difficult:







Source: Frankfurter Altstadt retten

Some of these designs might have been modified since these images were published, but the point still stands and the plots remain the same.

I think it would be financially wise, really, because nice historic buildings usually catch the eye and thus draw people to the business. What strikes me when I visit Europe is that some of the nicest buildings (in the centre at least) are often occupied by McDonalds and the like I suppose that's probably because they can afford to set up in such beautiful places, but I have no doubt there's some more calculated thinking going on
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Old June 21st, 2017, 10:25 AM   #410
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Thanks for those graphic renderings, they are really interesting! I was looking on the website of Frankfurter Altstadt retten, but as I can't read German and google translate is only of limited use I could not really tell what it is about. Is there a civic push to replace the modernist designs with the historical ones for these 4 buildings?
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Old June 21st, 2017, 12:17 PM   #411
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Thanks for those graphic renderings, they are really interesting! I was looking on the website of Frankfurter Altstadt retten, but as I can't read German and google translate is only of limited use I could not really tell what it is about. Is there a civic push to replace the modernist designs with the historical ones for these 4 buildings?
I think these renderings are old, and merely demonstrated how simple it would've been (and could still be) to make the planned modern buildings historical, given the general outline of the structures is often still the same.

As far as I know, there is no push to have the modern facades corrected, as they've only just been built. After all, if there was a desire, I suppose they would have been constructed historically to begin with.

Also, just in case you didn't know, you can translate whole pages with google translate by simply pasting the URL into the text box and clicking the search button
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Old June 21st, 2017, 12:26 PM   #412
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Why the **** are they doing modern versions if they're rebuilding the old town anyway?
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Old June 21st, 2017, 01:15 PM   #413
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For some of these buildings, I can sort of understand. Granted, the top one is a shame, both since it's next to a splendid reconstruction and because the original looks great. But the last one, Markt 34 if I'm not mistaken, doesn't look all that special originally and the new design looks quite fitting.
The other two are a mixed bag: the older buildings look good but not great, and it would probably be quite expensive to reconstruct them. I'm not happy with what replaced especially the first one, but I can understand not spending a lot of money to recreate a house that looks 'just ok'.
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I think half timbered houses get a lot of their charm from the other half-timber structures around them – it is the connectedness, and in a sense, the chaos of their differences that bring them alive. While baroque, for example, is about the symmetry and harmony of their ensembles, half-timbers thrive on the mayhem of their collective togetherness. So yes, while some of the original half timbers aren't exactly masterpieces, they shouldn't be thought of in isolation (and I still really like them ) .

This is why the clean, almost sterile forms of some of the modern buildings next to the reconstructions looks so unusual. Granted, a lot of the new builds are still nice, and at least mimic the form and scale of the originals.
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Old June 21st, 2017, 03:04 PM   #415
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Thankfully they have essentially maintained the scale and perimeter shapes of the buildings even though the final facades are not perfect. In many cases the modern interpretation of the originals seems to "work", but they get way off track when they get cutesy with the alternating window placements and unbalanced roof line as in the third example above.
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Old June 22nd, 2017, 03:31 AM   #416
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Very good news!
The City hall towers are coming back! The city and the major have agreed to reconstruct!!! One association is collecting money. Engineers have started their work.





source Vulgow and Wiki.

- First will be the big tower
- second the little tower
- third comes the "Gauben" and other roof windows


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Old June 23rd, 2017, 01:30 AM   #417
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sounds to good to be true i have to say i hope it's not some kinda windup lol. Anxious to see some more reconstructions asap.
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Old June 23rd, 2017, 10:13 AM   #418
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Great news! I love that look in the first picture. Do you think they also remove that weird top floor (on the right) and add a real roof again?

Also, if you encounter the site where they are collecting money, let me know .
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Old June 27th, 2017, 10:00 AM   #419
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^ That "weird roof" had to be renovated two years ago, so it'll take a little longer until they reconstruct that one.

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Old July 1st, 2017, 09:58 PM   #420
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The town is growing!






pictures from Heimdall!
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