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Old September 16th, 2017, 03:01 PM   #441
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The frankfurt reconstruction project has turned out to be a masterpiece
Ive only been to germany once but I am considering going on a trip to frankfurt just to see the new quarter.

Also those photos are shocking, its actually heart breaking how much beautiful architecture has been lost in german.Its hard to even comprehend the quantity that was lost
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Old September 18th, 2017, 11:00 AM   #442
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An initiative in Essen is actually advocating for reconstructions, and has been featured in numerous local articles over the last few weeks. I think this will gain traction and bear fruit. In particular, they want a reconstruction of the old Rathaus:

As well as the surrounding Marktplatz:

Some of the city's premier streets are also in focus:

And 'Willy-Brandt-Platz', near the Hauptbahnhof:
I dont think this will work out, as most of these are not "historic" buildings but historistic designs that are still far away to get the political/cultural significance for beeing reconstructed, combined with the even more, sereous amount of floor and retail area that will get lost with those reconstructions. No one will pay for it. Of course the old buildings where more beautifull, but i think especially the buildings surrounding Marktplatz and Willy-Brand-Platz are not of bad architecture and most could be redeveloped nicely without demolishing them and still getting a far better result than its current state.

Dont get me wrong. I appreciate the attemp, but is is higly unrealistic to happen.
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Old September 18th, 2017, 11:31 AM   #443
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Of course it is, but this what the group is advocating for. Realistically, maybe the old Rathaus will be reconstructed and some surviving buildings will get their old roofs back, but I don't see much else happening. Essen just doesn't have the culture/motivation for it, I think, and has almost eased into its ugliness (much like other cities in NRW).

But who knows – no one thought the Dresden Frauenkirche would be reconstructed, and look what that kicked off. And while we're at it, I'm sure no one thought a city like Frankfurt would reconstruct anything more of its oldtown after the reconstructions in the 1980s
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Old September 18th, 2017, 03:07 PM   #444
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Of course it is, but this what the group is advocating for. Realistically, maybe the old Rathaus will be reconstructed and some surviving buildings will get their old roofs back, but I don't see much else happening. Essen just doesn't have the culture/motivation for it, I think, and has almost eased into its ugliness (much like other cities in NRW).

But who knows – no one thought the Dresden Frauenkirche would be reconstructed, and look what that kicked off. And while we're at it, I'm sure no one thought a city like Frankfurt would reconstruct anything more of its oldtown after the reconstructions in the 1980s
Personally Im hoping that when these tasteful reconstructions in Dresden,Frankfurt, Potsdam and the gallery in Berlin are completed..itll kick off a kind of new appreciation of what germanys old cities used to be like, and maybe reconstructions will be met with less disdain and become a more respected idea overall..and could help to push campaigns for other reconstruction projects in germany
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Old September 18th, 2017, 04:57 PM   #445
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Personally Im hoping that when these tasteful reconstructions in Dresden,Frankfurt, Potsdam and the gallery in Berlin are completed..itll kick off a kind of new appreciation of what germanys old cities used to be like, and maybe reconstructions will be met with less disdain and become a more respected idea overall..and could help to push campaigns for other reconstruction projects in germany


I agree but would like to add that there have been way more constructions and partial reconstructions in Germany in the last years and decades. I am thinking of Hildesheim, the market square for example or the Umgestülpter Zuckerhut. Or the Pellerhaus in Nuernberg which is partially being reconstructed and a group of citizens is stepping up for its full reconstruction. Or several houses in Wuerzburg (also market square), in Aschaffenburg, the Schloss in Braunschweig (unfortunately facadism), etc
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Old September 20th, 2017, 05:53 PM   #446
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Here are some more close up pictures from the reconstructed house Goldene Waage (golden scale). This will truly be the masterpiece of the reconstructed old town in Frankfurt.







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Old September 21st, 2017, 12:31 AM   #447
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Absolutely stunning. Good work.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 05:45 AM   #448
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One big city with reconstructions is Leipzig. Look out for Leipzig. No one talks about it, because all projects run under Façade reconstructions , all doe many buildings where completely gone.
exsample; the left building in the back is also a reconstruction;


now, August 2017:

source: Vulgrow

In the afterwars the recoheaven was Munich. In the years after it became Frankfurt.
Another town that rebuilds its town center is btw. the town of Anklam.
The brown buildings are the rebuild second phase. First phase already finished.
The project is mindblowing, since the town is very small and poor. To end that and to boost soft lifestyle benefits, witch is already working positive, the town gets redone completely.




Some white buildings are from phase one. The town center is getting reconstructed or rebuild traditional.

Another subject is the castle boom. Eight castles are being reconstructed.
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 10:39 PM   #449
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There is a Leipzig thread in this section. Haven't you seen it? It would be great with some updates to that one!
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Old October 1st, 2017, 03:51 PM   #450
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Update from the old town in Frankfurt:
The so-called Stoltze-fountain is returning to the old town.

It was built at the end of the 19th century and stood at the Huehner market (chickens market) until its destruction by allied bombing raids in the second world war. In 1944 it was moved to the Friedrich-Stoltze-Platz, behind the Katharinenkirche.

It now returns to its former place in the middle of the reconstructed old town and is therefore a form of city repair! It adds to the authenticity of the new old town.

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Die Heimkehr des Stoltze-Brunnens!

Mit der Rückkehr des Stoltze-Brunnens aufs Dom-Römer-Areal ist der Wiederaufbau der Frankfurter Altstadt wieder ein Stück weiter gediehen. Der Brunnen soll künftig der sprudelnde Mittelpunkt des Hühnermarktes sein.

So richtig fertig wird die Altstadt erst in einem Jahr sein, aber schon jetzt kann man bei Führungen über die Baustelle zwischen Dom und Römerberg einige Highlights erblicken, etwa die äußerst prunkvolle und farbenfrohe Rekonstruktion der Goldenen Waage oder auch den Hühnermarkt. Der könnte zum Lieblingsplatz der Frankfurter avancieren, weil es dort – mal abgesehen von einer Apotheke – gemütliche Cafés mit Außenbestuhlung geben wird. Und in der Mitte, da wird der Stoltze-Brunnen sprudeln, der am Freitag von Oberbürgermeister Peter Feldmann eingeweiht wurde.

„Die Frankfurter werden diesen Platz lieben“, ist sich Feldmann sicher. Er selbst war ja anfangs kein Altstadtfan, gibt nun aber zu, dass er sich „vom Saulus zum Paulus“ entwickelt habe. Daher auch kein Termin in der Altstadt ohne Feldmann. Er verbindet mit dem Brunnen ein Stück Stadtgeschichte. Der Frankfurter Mundartdichter und Schriftsteller Friedrich Stoltze (1816-1891) sei in der Altstadt geboren. Seine Werke gäben die damalige Atmosphäre in der Stadt wieder, er habe literarische Stimmungsbilder gemalt. „Aber Stoltze legte sich auch mit Leuten an“, er habe oft Kritik am Reichskanzler Bismarck geäußert. 1895 wurde zu Ehren Stoltzes der Brunnen auf dem Hühnermarkt eingeweiht, musste aber nach den Luftangriffen auf Frankfurt im Jahr 1944 abgebaut werden.

Zwischen 1981 und 2016 stand der Brunnen, eher versteckt auf dem Friedrich-Stoltze-Platz hinter der Katharinenkirche. Mit der Rückkehr in die Altstadt findet also auch ein Stück Stadtreparatur statt. In direkter Nachbarschaft zum neuen Standort, im Haus Markt 7, wird vom kommenden Jahr an das Stoltze-Museum der Frankfurter Sparkasse über das Leben und Werk des Dichters informieren.

Bis dahin gibt es auf dem Altstadtareal noch viel zu tun. „Erstmal werden wir die Oberflächenbeläge zügig verlegen“, stellt Michael Guntersdorf, Chef der DomRömer GmbH, in Aussicht. „dann müssen wir Probleme mit der Haustechnik lösen und dann müssten wir im März 2018 mit der Bauerei fertig sein, so dass die Bewohner Ende April einziehen können.“ Parallel dazu soll der Ladenausbau in Angriff genommen werden, so dass im September 2018 die Altstadt fertig sein kann. „im April werden wir mal kurz den Bauzaun für die Bürger öffnen. Dann kommen wir dem Ziel, dass die Altstadt endlich ein Stück Stadt wird, ein großes Stück näher.“ Denn erst mit den Bewohnern, den Lädchen und den Fußgängern wird die Altstadt zum Leben erweckt. „Wir müssen aufpassen, dass wir mit der Belegung der Läden eine gute Auswahl treffen, aber ich bin sehr optimistisch, weil die Bewerber sich ihre Sache offenbar gut überlegt haben.“









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Just because it makes us happy:



http://www.fr.de/kultur/timesmager/f...imat-a-1365248
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F-uckinamazing !
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Old October 19th, 2017, 11:12 AM   #453
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Some new images of Frankfurt's new old town, as seen in several German media during the last 5 days:














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Frankfurt's DomRömer old town is turning out better than the renders!

360° tour of various buildings - use the cursor on the pictures to move around! It's amazing!



www.bild.de


www.frankfurt-tourismus.de
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360 video! Plus updates

Store layout for Frankfurt's new old town (too lazy to translate, maybe someone will do it ):



Render and construction video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjokCzv-v7o

360° views:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNoB_R_X0H0

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Krönungsweg


















Goldene Waage






Braubachstraße





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DomRömer old town project Frankfurt

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Braubachstraße















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Krönungsweg Südseite, M13 - M17


Goldene Waage
















Krönungsweg M8 - M14





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Thank You Erbse! Thank you for the pictures. I tried to get picture from this massive project, but it is easier to get a 85 Year old pregnant than to document this build!




This building is a timberframe like the original plastered over like common back than.
(More hygienic, more fireproof)
Several buildings are material reconstructions!
The building always used to house a meat shop and will become a meat shop again!




This next house was build like this to show off. The owner used to be from the independent state called the Netherlands. At that time a member of Germanys first Reich with Vienna as capital. The family made the money from the sugar (made from sugar turnips) and the spice trade.
The family moved to Frankfurt because less competition. The building is to show the world that the family still can do!

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Old November 22nd, 2017, 10:47 AM   #459
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Amazing. Germany definitely doing architecture right these days.
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Old November 23rd, 2017, 08:28 PM   #460
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Those little streets and plazas look so lovely. I think this reconstruction project shows that a a modern city does have the potential to be nice, its the tiny plot sizes and narrow streets that give old cities that distinct and pleasant feeling. While modern architecture is undeniably worse, its still encouraging that it can be used to create relatively nice streetscapes compared to what we usually get in modern cities
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