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Old March 24th, 2015, 09:47 PM   #121
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I disagree, there's plenty of modern structures worth seeing in Rotterdam, but they are drawning in a sea of lego-like structures, giant tubes and three doors waredrobes. I wish the city center was rebuilt in the 1940-1950s, those two decades gave Rotterdam so many good architecture.
Well, maybe, but I don't know any contemporary symbol of Rotterdam being well-known all over the world.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 01:46 PM   #122
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Haus zur Goldenen Waage | Highlight of the Dom-Römer Project

Let's stick to discussing Frankfurt's old town project here.


This will be the artistical peak of human creation in the rebuilt Dom-Römer area:

Haus zur Goldenen Waage (aka Goldene Waage, "Golden Weigh House") | Markt 5

(German Wiki article about it. Frankfurt forum thread.)

With a medieval core and an ornate unique renaissance facade of 1619, built by the Dutch patrician Abraham van Hamel. The city even wanted to forbid the construction initially, as the facade was perceived too pompous compared to the surroundings. Destroyed by Allied bombing raids in early 1944, that wiped out most of Frankfurt's unique old town core. The house will be largely reconstructed by 2016.






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Source: DomRömer GmbH: Markt 5

For context: Street "Markt", the Goldene Waage to the left ("M"=Markt)

http://www.domroemer.de/strassenzuege

Around 1900:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...dene_Waage.jpg


http://static.coret.org/img/go/4067/frankfurt%201.jpg

It'll be gorgeous. Renaissance staircase in the making:


Source: http://www.journal-frankfurt.de/jour...ein-24097.html
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What a beautiful building. It is gorgeus.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 04:26 PM   #124
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Note how the photos of the original show no sagging around windows or floors or roof. Built in 1619 with materials and craftsmanship to last.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 08:36 PM   #125
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With a medieval core and an ornate unique renaissance facade of 1619, built by the Dutch patrician Abraham van Hamel. The city even wanted to forbid the construction initially, as the facade was perceived too pompous compared to the surroundings. Destroyed by Allied bombing raids in early 1944, that wiped out most of Frankfurt's unique old town core. The house will be largely reconstructed by 2016.
They should forbid the construction of the buildings next to it, because they're absolutely hideous.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 08:55 PM   #126
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I think he was referring to the original building, not reconstruction.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 09:51 PM   #127
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Yeah, it was in reference to the original construction in the early 17th century.

You can read about it here if you understand German. Quick Google translation (sorry, too lazy for doing it myself currently):

"In 1588, the corner house "Goldene Waage" for 3,040 guilders and the "Old Hell" for 2,000 guilders went in the possession of Andreas Gaßmann. Maria Margarethe Gaßmann finally bought 1605 of the confectioner and spice merchants Abraham van Hamel the building complex. Hamel was born in Tournai in the Spanish Netherlands. In 1599 he migrated as Reformed faith refugee, over Sittard near Aachen and Wesel to Frankfurt, where previously his father and brother had made it as residentials. Despite some resistance from the guilds he had been admitted on 19 November 1599 for civic oath.

1618-1619 he bought the four-storey front house of his plot to tear and replaced it with a magnificent new building. His plan was accompanied by great resistance by the Council and the neighbors. The public display of wealth was frowned upon in Frankfurt - and the developers of similar magnificently decorated "Salzhaus" got to feel it. Hamel, however, was a mighty man who usually sat by his goals, sometimes ruthless - either through the use of his assets, or by the way of legal remedy. His joy for lawsuits made him gain goals quickly, but an outsider among the Frankfurt citizenship, said soon, "he had to quarrel with anyone and therefore justify that for his Handel alone to appoint a strange lay council would be necessary."

Btw, this is on the rooftop of the "Goldene Waage". It's called "Belvederchen" (lil' belvedere) and will be reconstructed, too! An intimate, cozy and unique place for gatherings. Above one of the loveliest timbered houses on Earth.


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...-Belvedere.jpg


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...jpg?uselang=de

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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...-Schnitt-B.jpg


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...mass-Markt.gif

The ground floor, once a retail store, interiors are also largely reconstructed (as far as I understood):

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...jpg?uselang=de

The stucco ceiling of 1624:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...Stuckdecke.jpg

Courtyard:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...aage-UCSAR.jpg

Base:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...geschosses.jpg
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Old April 18th, 2015, 11:32 PM   #128
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A shame they blend modernism with reconstruction. A real altstadt with "old" buildings would have been my choice. Why not let 500 metres times 500 metres only be with old buildings?

I bet they would receive more tourist that way.

Any dates for the finishing of the altstadt?
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Fun fact: The newspaper reported that the oak beams used for the building are almost as old (the three before it died naturally) as the House used to be!

Another fun fact: The city opposed to reconstruct this building in particular. Private people wanted to by the plot and re-construct. Now it`s the city itself building and keeping it!

Jet another fun fact: The architect used to calculate the weights and so on used to be extreme anti re-construct! I mean extreme anti re-construct. He got pushed out of the way. Now he offered his "service" the re-construct. He was even caught saying "he know the re-construction would become a hit" I`ll keep watching him!
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Old April 20th, 2015, 03:11 PM   #130
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Jet another fun fact: The architect used to calculate the weights and so on used to be extreme anti re-construct! I mean extreme anti re-construct. He got pushed out of the way. Now he offered his "service" the re-construct. He was even caught saying "he know the re-construction would become a hit" I`ll keep watching him!
If he truly felt the reconstruction was a superior idea, chose not to pursue it, and instead tried to push for something modern and cheaper because of his taste and bias, then I hope he trips and breaks his legs when he enters the finished building.
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Old May 28th, 2015, 05:43 PM   #131
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Current aerial pic of Frankfurt's old town development (Dom-Römer), the fireproof concrete-made ground levels and compartment walls are erected first:


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Source and more views: http://domroemer.de/virtueller-rundgang


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Such a shame they don't reconstruct all the building instead of 35 of them blended with modern buildings. 50 old buildings would have been perfect
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I'm not worried at all about the "modern" buildings, most of them adapt perfectly, are quite creative or even look better than the historical ones (except for 4 or 5 of them).
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I would prefer a reconstruction over those postmodern buildings. Some of them are quite nice and creative, but we won't have a second opportunity after this one. I think we should build those postmodern buildings in new residential complexes, where there were no historical buildings. I mean, we could have a cosy and nice traditional-pattern neighbourhood filled with contemporary architecture, something like those in Elblag. I think I would love to live in that kind of neighbourhood because it gives the best of both worlds.
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A shame they blend modernism with reconstruction. A real altstadt with "old" buildings would have been my choice. Why not let 500 metres times 500 metres only be with old buildings?
Don't worry, they aren't old anyway

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I would prefer a reconstruction over those postmodern buildings. Some of them are quite nice and creative, but we won't have a second opportunity after this one. I think we should build those postmodern buildings in new residential complexes, where there were no historical buildings. I mean, we could have a cosy and nice traditional-pattern neighbourhood filled with contemporary architecture, something like those in Elblag.
Bad example. This "traditional-pattern neighbourhood" in Elbląg you're referring to, is locational Old Town
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I know that. I was referring to the architectural style of those buildings, not the place they were built.
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New pics:
Braubach strasse 21

Next to it with no concrete: "Goldenes Lammchen"

From the main street:

You can see the stairs coming up high

source: Thanks user Heimdall from APH forum
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The surrounding Area: Enjoy

The two buildings in the middle are from the 50's!
The old tower next to them needs his top reconstructed.
There are plans already for that.

The house " zu den drei Romern " is growing


The Stein haus contains Arts and a restaurant.
It's inner court:

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The project is huge! 40 buildings or so at once.
The building on the right is from the 50's

Don't know about this "to be"


At the other side: Haus Wertheym. The only timber frame surviving the war

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