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Old June 1st, 2014, 12:03 PM   #341
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Yes, the CTBUH List is really not correct. Alone the Top 20 List in Europe is greater.

Top 20 Ranking of cities with the most 100m buildings. (T/O, complete)
1. Moscow = ~150
2. Istanbul = ~137
3. Paris = 74
4. Ankara = ~50
5. Kiev = ~45
6. London = 44
7. Frankfurt= 30
8. Benidorm = 24
9. Rotterdam = 19
10. Warsaw = 18
11. Brussel = 18
12. Madrid = 16
13. Vienna = 12
14. Milan = 12
15. Berlin = 10
16. Cologne = 10
17. Baku = 10
18. Barcelona = 9
19. The Hague = 9
20. Naples = 9

696 buildings

After skyscraperpage.com there are nearly 850 buildings over 100m (T/O, compl.)
I think that's a more accurate figure for Europe as CTBUH.


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Old June 1st, 2014, 12:23 PM   #342
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Completed, Construction, Proposed

Hong Kong 2,360
Shanghai 869**
Shenzhen 862**
New York 843
Manila 630
Tokyo 549
Bangkok 527
Tel Aviv -Yafo 416 **
Toronto 406
Guangzhou 387**
Chicago 335
Dubai 331
Seoul 256
Singapore 233
Miami 191
London 145

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Old June 1st, 2014, 12:32 PM   #343
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After skyscraperpage.com there are nearly 850 buildings over 100m (T/O, compl.)
I think that's a more accurate figure for Europe as CTBUH.
It's amazing how much of that total is accounted for by Russia and Turkey. Do you have numbers for the EU?
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Old June 1st, 2014, 12:41 PM   #344
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Canada

Built: 406
U/C: 109
Proposed: 197
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Completed, Construction, Proposed

Hong Kong 2,360
Shanghai 869**
Shenzhen 862**
New York 843
Manila 630
Tokyo 549
Bangkok 527
Tel Aviv -Yafo 416 **
Toronto 406
Guangzhou 387**
Chicago 335
Dubai 331
Seoul 256
Singapore 233
Miami 191
London 145

source : previous pages on this thread.
Mumbai :

Complete - 150+
U/C - 300+
Proposed - 300+

About 100 new highrises (residential apartments and condos mainly) are proposed in Mumbai each year since 2010.
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Old June 1st, 2014, 01:50 PM   #346
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It's amazing how much of that total is accounted for by Russia and Turkey. Do you have numbers for the EU?
After skyscraperpage.com has the EU:

complete = 441
U/C = 45
Proposed = 218


Unfortunately you can not enter all countries to skyscraperpage.
I have added all countries with 100m buildings in the EU.

But the list for the whole of Europe was incomplete.
Therefore, the number of 814 is not correct but rather a number of around 850 for total Europe.
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Thanks. Looks like Canada is making a valiant effort to stay with the EU in the 100m+ count. Canada surely can't keep this up forever though.

Built: 441 vs. 406 - edge goes to EU
Built + U/C: 486 vs. 515 - edge goes to Canada
Built + U/C + Proposed: 704 vs. 712 - edge goes to Canada
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After skyscraperpage.com has the EU:

Proposed = 218
Skyscraperpage is grossly underestimating the number of proposed in Europe. Hardly surprising since no one from Europe seems to use the site. London has at least 80 buildings over 100m proposed. No way does the rest of Europe only have 138 buildings proposed after that. I'd wager that Moscow, Istanbul and London combined have more than 218 buildings proposed between them.
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Small correction: I have forgot Slovakia with 5 buildings.

It are in the EU after skyscraperpage.com

complete = 446
U/C = 47
Proposed = 218

also
Built: 446 vs. 406 - edge goes to EU
Built + U/C: 493 vs. 515 - edge goes to Canada
Built + U/C + Proposed: 711 vs. 712 - edge goes to Canada

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EU vs Australia and New Zealand

European Union--->skyscraperpage.com
complete = 446
U/C = 47
Proposed = 218

Australia and New Zealand--->skyscraperpage.com
complete = 322
U/C = 38
Proposed = 124


Built: 446 vs. 322 - point goes to the EU
Built + U/C: 493 vs. 360 - point goes to the EU
Built + U/C + Proposed: 711 vs. 484 - point goes to the EU

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EU vs Africa

European Union--->skyscraperpage.com
complete = 446
U/C = 47
Proposed = 218

Africa--->skyscraperpage.com

complete = 127
U/C = 35 ?
Proposed = 50 ?

Built: 446 vs. 127 - point goes to the EU
Built + U/C: 493 vs. 162 - point goes to the EU
Built + U/C + Proposed: 711 vs. 212 - point goes to the EU

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As you can see, the Eu has at least two continents behind.

Australia and Africa.
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 03:24 AM   #353
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I did a special list for you all about Milan

* IL DRITTO | 207 m, without antenna | 50 fl | 2014-15 | ARATA ISOZAKI

* UNICREDIT TOWER - TOWER A | 231 m, included spire | 35 fl | 2011 | CESAR PELLI

* LO STORTO | 175 m | 45 fl | ? | ZAHA HADID

* IL CURVO | 165 m | 35 fl | ? | DANIEL LIBESKIND

* PALAZZO LOMBARDIA | 161 m | 43 fl | 2010 | PEI COBB FREED & PARTNERS

* SOLARIA TOWER | 143 m | 37 fl | 2013 | ARQUITECTONICA

* DIAMOND TOWER | 140 m | 30 fl | 2012 | KOHN PEDERSON FOX ASSOCIATES

* TORRE PIRELLI | 127 m | 31 fl | 1960 | GIO PONTI
It's the symbol of economic boom after WWII. The skyscraper has been internationally acclaimed to be an example: architects taken inspirations for other skyscrapers in the world (first of all, MetLife Building in New York, built five years later)

* TORRE BREDA | 117 m | 30 fl | 1954 - R 2009 | LUIGI MATTIONI
It was the first tallest habitable building in Milan and Italy, and for the first time higher than our Cathedral.

* BOSCO VERTICALE - TOWER E | 111 m | 24 fl | 2014 | BOERI STUDIO
It's first tower in the world for its design. An example for skyscrapers of next decades.

* TORRE GALFA | 109 m | 28 fl | 1958 | 31 fl | 1959 | MELCHIORRE BREGA
It's a symbol of International Style, and it was a symbol of Milan's boom.

* TORRE VELASCA | 106 m | 26 fl | 1958 | BBPR STUDIO
It represented a point of reference for a part of culture that sought to overcome Rationalism, ferrying to a new attitude towards the environment and history (tower presents some architectural reference, taken by our Castle Sforza). Surely an important building, and for that reason it is protected by Superintendence of Cultural Heritage. It's a sort of "test" about the changes in architecture, as a discipline. And finally it's first example of "fungus" tower.

* UNICREDIT TOWER - TOWER B | 105 m | 23 fl | 2011 | CESAR PELLI

* GARIBALDI TWIN TOWERS - TOWER A | 100 m | 25 fl | 1994 - R 2012 | LAZZARI & PEROTTA

* GARIBALDI TWIN TOWERS - TOWER B | 100 m | 25 fl | 1994 - R 2012 | LAZZARI & PEROTTA
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Skyscraperpage is grossly underestimating the number of proposed in Europe. Hardly surprising since no one from Europe seems to use the site. London has at least 80 buildings over 100m proposed. No way does the rest of Europe only have 138 buildings proposed after that. I'd wager that Moscow, Istanbul and London combined have more than 218 buildings proposed between them.
Russia and Turkey aren't in the EU. London accounts for a huge amount of the activity in the EU right now. That 218 figure looks right to me.
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Russia and Turkey aren't in the EU. London accounts for a huge amount of the activity in the EU right now. That 218 figure looks right to me.
Yeah I misread that. Europe > EU

The 218 figure is still most likely a gross underestimate on skyscraperpage's behalf. You only need to compare the list I posted further down this page to the London diagrams page to see that. I had a look at the London Database page as well. They list only 100 buildings Built, proposed, and under construction in London, and a few of those were dead projects. This figure is about 50 short of the far better and up-to-date list I posted.

The 218 figure for the EU is therefore missing around 50 London projects. God knows how many else are missing from elsewhere in the EU.
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So If London has around 150-160. Birmingham/Manchester/Liverpool/Leeds/Portsmouth/Southampton have probably around 60 built and proposed between them. That's around 218 just for the UK.
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Yeah I misread that. Europe > EU

The 218 figure is still most likely a gross underestimate on skyscraperpage's behalf.
I see. Hopefully they can update it as it's a quite heavily used resource.
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CTBUH data is not really accurate for cities in Asia (and especially china). For example it names 69 buildings above 100m for Shenzhen with number 68 being the Trecent Tower (office) with 150m and number 69 Neo Tower C (office) with 108m. Come on, seriously? There is no residential high rise between 100 and 150m in Shenzhen? Are they kidding? In cities like Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Shanghai, Chongqing... there are literally hundreds of residential highrises with 30+ stories. Just look on arbitrary photos of these cities and you will find dozens of these high rises with 30-35 stories. Some of the more realistic figures I have read place Shanghai and Shenzhen at 1000+ buildings above 100m and Hong Kong at more than 2000+ buildings.

Hong Kong is the only city in China who has accurate data on Emporis.

There are nearly 3000 buildings with 30+ stories (70% of 30-39 floors residential high rise in Hong Kong has no exact height so we don't have another choice than based on the number of floors).
http://www.emporis.com/city/hongkong...-buildings/156

So I'm sure that Hong Kong has more than 2500+ 100m+ buildings.
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Best highrise citys in Germany.

All buildings on (CTBUH)


1. Frankfurt am Main (30 buildings = 100m) Tallest building= Commerzbank Tower (259m)

Frankfurt City view by anthony-gurr on Flickr


2. Cologne (10 buildings = 100m) Tallest building= Köln Tower (149m)

by User:Raymond on Wikipedia


3. Berlin (10 buildings = 100m) Tallest buildings= Park Inn & Treptower (both 125m)

guiadealemania.com


4. Munich (6 buildings = 100m) Tallest building= Uptown München (146m)

stadtbild-deutschland.org


5. Dusseldorf (3 buildings = 100m) Tallest building= ARAG-Hochhaus (125m)

Düsseldorf am Rhein by Narreu Chameil on Flickr


6. Hamburg (3 buildings = 100m) Tallest building= Elbphilharmonie (110m)

by xavv1


7. Bonn (2 buildings = 100m) Tallest building = Post Tower (163m)

koeln-nachrichten.de


8. Essen (2 buildings = 100m) Tallest building= RWE-Turm (127m)

manager-magazin.de


9. Leipzig (1 building = 100m) City Hochhaus (142m)

by Klaus Kühnast (Emporis)


10. Bremerhaven (1 building = 100m) Atlantik Hotel Sail City (147m)

germany.travel


11. Jena (1 building = 100m) Jentower Tower (144m)

hotel-blog.de


12. Nuremberg (1 building = 100m) Business Tower (135m)

pp-gruppe.de


13. Offenbach (1 building = 100m) City Tower (122m)

by Adama


14. Travemünde (1 building = 100m) Maritim Travemünde (119m)

panoramio.com


15. Augsburg (1 building = 100m) Dorint Hotelturm (115m)

kleeblatt-film.de


16. Mannheim (1 buildings = 100m) Collini Center (102m)

by paderwan (DAF)


17. Timmendorf (1 building = 100m) Maritim Clubhotel (101m)

by Bin_im_Garten (Wikipedia)

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