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Old June 15th, 2013, 12:02 PM   #81
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Wonderful. I will up date the lists in a few minutes.

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New York seems a little low. Just curious, where are you getting these numbers?
A lot of the data is coming from SSP, especially for north American cities. Asian data on there tends to be less reliable so members are pitching in as has been done with Manila.

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According to the council on tall buildings and urban habitat, Hong Kong has 2354 buildings taller than 100m.
I've seen that number before, but when I went to CTBUH the data table said 394 buildings completed 100m+. It also doesn't distinguish between roof height and spires, so I inputed the higher SSP figure (677) for now.

The link that produced 394: http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/crea...=on&list_year=
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Good idea for a thread. However, I believe the data collected so far is extremely inaccurate for some cities (especially the Asian/Chinese ones).

Also, if we really include every city on earth with more than one building above 100m completed, u/c or proposed we'll have more than 1,000 cities on the list in the end.
Regarding Hong Kong, Shenzhen, and Shanghai we'll get there eventually. The CTBUH site says 394 for Hong Kong, SSP says 677. The 2500 figure comes from where? I want the more accurate number obviously, but for problematic city data links would be very helpful.

There certainly are other cities that aren't right. Manila was one, but 'tita' has come to the rescue. Hopefully, the big discrepancies are eliminated and we'll end up with a rough summary.

I realized that there are tons of cities with just 1 or 2 buildings 100m+, but wanted to be inclusive. Perhaps we can cross that bridge when we get there.
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Jakarta
Completed: 169
Under construction: 18
Proposed: 26

Chongqing
Completed: 137
Under construction: 20
Proposed: 18

Dubai
Completed: 306
Under construction: 19
Proposed: 6

Seoul
Completed: 210
Under construction: 11
Proposed: 10

Busan
Completed: 82
Under construction: 3
Proposed: 7

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Sydney Proposals - heights do not include spires. TOTAL - 30

Sydney Under Construction - heights do not include spires. TOTAL - 9
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Kobe:
Completed: 46
U/C: 0
Proposed: 2

Sapporo:
Completed: 17
U/C: 2
Proposed: 2

Sendai:
Completed: 12
U/C: 0
Proposed: 0

Hiroshima:
Completed: 9
U/C: 1
Proposed: 1
Thanks very much. I will up date the list in a few minutes.
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Completed

Hong Kong 2354
Shanghai 714
New York 685
Tokyo 450
Bangkok 392
Manila 320
Dubai 306
Chicago 295
Seoul 210
Guangzhou 194

Kuala Lumpur 190
Singapore 180
Jakarta 169
Toronto 162
Sao Paulo 143
Osaka 141
Chongqing 137
Mumbai 131
Tianjin 108
Sydney 107
Moscow 86
Busan 82
Melbourne 80
Paris 72
Honolulu 71
Vancouver 57
Calgary 55
Brisbane 52
Las Vegas 51
Kobe 46
Gold Coast 42
London 40
Montreal 40
Frankfurt 29
Nagoya 21
Johannesburg 19
Bogota 17
Mississauga 17
Rotterdam 17
Sapporo 17
New Delhi 16
Warsaw 16
Edmonton 15
Brussels 14
Sendai 12
Berlin 10
Vienna 10
Hiroshima 9
The Hague 8
Amsterdam 7
Birmingham (AL) 5
St. Petersburg (FL) 5
St. Petersburg 5
Kolkata 5
Niagara Falls 5
Ottawa 5
Winnipeg 5
Manchester 3

2 Buildings 100m+: Birmingham, Eindhoven, Hamilton, Leeds, Lille, Lyon, Marseille, Pearl City, Tilburg, Yaketerinburg

1 Building 100m+: Almere, Amiens, Bilbao, Fort-de-France, Ghent, Hertogenbosch, Leeuwarden, Liverpool, London (ON), Luxembourg, Mulhouse, Nancy, Ostend, Sheffield, Spijkenisse, Swansea, Utrecht, Waimalu, Windsor


* Likely an under count
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Under construction

Manila 197
Mumbai 136
Tianjin 86
Bangkok 77
Toronto 70
New York 40
Tokyo 40
Singapore 31
Moscow 25
Kuala Lumpur 23

Tokyo 21
Chongqing 20
Melbourne 20
Dubai 19
Jakarta 18
Kolkata 18
New Delhi 16
Shanghai 15
Sao Paulo 13
Vancouver 13
Osaka 12
Guangzhou 11
London 11
Seoul 11*
Sydney 9
Chicago 8
Yaketerinburg 6
Brisbane 5
Hong Kong 5
Mississauga 5
Bogota 4
Calgary 4
Montreal 4
Busan 3*
Frankfurt 3
Nagoya 3
Rotterdam 3
Warsaw 3

2 Buildings 100m+: Edmonton, Kobe, Marseille, Paris, Sapporo

1 Building 100m+: Berlin, Brussels, Gold Coast, Halifax, Hiroshima, Honolulu, Johannesburg, Liege, Lyon, St. Petersburg, Vienna

* Likely higher
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Proposed

Toronto 132
Manila 113
Melbourne 88
London 66
New York 63
Tokyo 59
Bangkok 58
Tianjin 47
Mumbai 39*
Chicago 32

Vancouver 31
Sydney 30
Jakarta 26
Chongqing 18*
Guangzhou 16
Singapore 15
Warsaw 15
Osaka 12
Kuala Lumpur 11
Paris 11
Calgary 10
Honolulu 10
Montreal 10
Seoul 10*
Birmingham 9
Frankfurt 9
Yaketerinburg 9
Busan 7*
Shanghai 7
Berlin 6
Dubai 6
Johannesburg 6
Las Vegas 6
Brisbane 5
Brussels 5
Edmonton 5
Gold Coast 5
Nagoya 5
Saltford 5
Niagara Falls 4
Rotterdam 4
Sao Paulo 4
Bilbao 3
St. Petersburg (FL) 3
Vienna 3

2 Buildings 100m+: Glasgow, Kobe, Kolkata, New Delhi, Ottawa, Sapporo

1 Building 100m+: Bogota, Cardiff, Hiroshima, Hong Kong, Lyon, Mississauga

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isaidso, could you maybe compile the data from this thread in the very first post?
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The Toronto data came from SSP. In the link provided below I narrowed my search using 'Toronto' for city, 'Highrise' for structure type, 'Built'/'Construction'/'Proposed' for status, 'Roof height' for Order By, and 100m for a minimum height. (You can do a table using metres or feet.)

If you do it for 'Built' you get 162, 'Construction' you get 70 (you have to toggle off 'On Hold' which I didn't include), and 'Proposed' you get 132.

Link: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?

I could compile a list here, but it would take me 1-2 hours. Hopefully the link is sufficient? Side note: I'm going to combine Mississauga with Toronto as the totals for other cities seem to include suburbs as well.
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It's amazing to see and identify the boom in Toronto. Really fascinating. When do you think supply will outstrip demand?
I was rather surprised to see Toronto so high up in the tables. We still have to get data for Shenzhen, Seoul, Dubai, Jakarta, Chongqing and more reliable data for Hong Kong, but it's still a very strong showing. Manila was the even bigger surprise for me.

The Toronto market was over supplied in 2011, but measures were put in place by the Bank of Canada to deflate the market. Sales went down to more sustainable levels in 2012. New buildings are still being proposed on top of the current inventory, but I imagine most of the activity right now is related to selling what's already on the table.

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London has no choice really now but to go big. Every major proposal now entails some form of high-rise element it seems.

In London, towers are very fashionable at the moment in a traditionally low-rise city. I can't see it ending especially with rates and yield so high from them.

Foster & Partners have just also been asked to design a cluster of new towers in Canary Wharf although there is still plenty of opposition regarding towers in London as yesterday what would've become the 2nd tallest tower in the UK was rejected although there does seem to be calls for an appeal.
London will no doubt see a great deal of activity for the foreseeable future due to the demands placed upon it. London is new to the skyscraper game and many cities have a huge lead on it. It will never be a sea of towers due to the historic built form, but it will be interesting to watch nonetheless. London's skyline has come a long way in the last 20 years.
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A very rough look at what might be in 5-6 years.

Completed, Construction, Proposed

Hong Kong 2,360
New York 788
Shanghai 736
Manila 630
Tokyo 549
Bangkok 527
Toronto 364
Chicago 335
Dubai 331
Mumbai 306*

Tianjin 241
Seoul 231*
Singapore 226
Kuala Lumpur 224
Guangzhou 221
Jakarta 213
Melbourne 188
Chongqing 175*
Osaka 165
Sao Paulo 156
Sydney 146
London 117
Moscow 111
Vancouver 101
Busan 92*
Paris 85
Honolulu 82
Calgary 69
Brisbane 62
Las Vegas 57
Montreal 54
Kobe 50
Gold Coast 48
Nagoya 37
New Delhi 34*
Warsaw 34
Johannesburg 26
Kolkata 25*
Rotterdam 24
Mississauga 23
Bogota 22
Edmonton 22
Sapporo 21
Brussels 20
Berlin 17
Yaterinburg 17
Vienna 14
Sendai 12
Birmingham 11
Hiroshima 11
Niagara Falls 9
St. Petersburg (FL) 8
The Hague 8
Amsterdam 7
Ottawa 7
St. Petersburg 6
Birmingham (AL) 5
Saltford 5
Winnipeg 5
Bilbao 4
Lyon 4
Marseille 4
Manchester 3

2 Buildings 100m+: Eindhoven, Glasgow, Hamilton, Leeds, Lille, Pearl City, Tilburg

1 Building 100m+: Almere, Amiens, Cardiff, Fort-de-France, Ghent, Halifax, Hertogenbosch, Leeuwarden, Liverpool, London (ON), Luxembourg, Mulhouse, Nancy, Ostend, Sheffield, Spijkenisse, Swansea, Utrecht, Waimalu, Windsor

* Likely higher
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isaidso, don't forget to raise Sydney's completed 100m+ through the following changes;

Removing Emporis listings for Sydney structures over 100m;
- Sydney Tower (309m)
- Harbour Bridge (135m)
- Anzac Bridge (120m)

Adding recently completed;
- 8 Chifley Square (145m)

Adding buildings not on Emporis Sydney CBD list because they are outside the traditional CBD;
- Northpoint Tower
- Optus Plaza
- The Forum
- Beau Monde

Others I thought were 100m+ had spires. So that means Sydney's official total is 107 completed.

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Regarding Hong Kong, Shenzhen, and Shanghai we'll get there eventually. The CTBUH site says 394 for Hong Kong, SSP says 677. The 2500 figure comes from where? I want the more accurate number obviously, but for problematic city data links would be very helpful.

There certainly are other cities that aren't right. Manila was one, but 'tita' has come to the rescue. Hopefully, the big discrepancies are eliminated and we'll end up with a rough summary.

I realized that there are tons of cities with just 1 or 2 buildings 100m+, but wanted to be inclusive. Perhaps we can cross that bridge when we get there.

Well, the user actually provided a CTBUH link to a list that says HK had 2,354 buildings taller than 100m in 2010. Numbers for other cities seem also quite different. Check it out: http://www.ctbuh.org/HighRiseInfo/Ta...B/Default.aspx
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Well, the user actually provided a CTBUH link to a list that says HK had 2,354 buildings taller than 100m in 2010. Numbers for other cities seem also quite different. Check it out: http://www.ctbuh.org/HighRiseInfo/Ta...B/Default.aspx
Woops, I must have missed that post. I remember that chart, but had forgotten about it. I changed Hong Kong. I have to go out so will look at the rest of the chart later today.

I'll likely edit with the higher amounts for those cities in question.
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isaidso, don't forget to raise Sydney's completed 100m+ through the following changes;

Removing Emporis listings for Sydney structures over 100m;
- Sydney Tower (309m)
- Harbour Bridge (135m)
- Anzac Bridge (120m)

Adding recently completed;
- 8 Chifley Square (145m)

Adding buildings not on Emporis Sydney CBD list because they are outside the traditional CBD;
- Northpoint Tower
- Optus Plaza
- The Forum
- Beau Monde

Others I thought were 100m+ had spires. So that means Sydney's official total is 107 completed.

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If I'm correct, this are all the "Nordic" highrises. They thicken the pack.
Stockholm
Completed, 2
UC, 1
Proposed, 4
Malmö
Completed, 1
UC, 0
Proposed, 0
Oslo
Completed, 2
UC, 0
Proposed, 1
Tallinn
Completed, 1
UC, 0
Proposed, 1
Riga
Completed, 2
UC, 1
Proposed, 0
Vilnius
Completed, 1
UC, 0
Proposed, 0
Klaipeda
Completed, 1
UC, 0
Proposed, 1
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And this seems to be the list of Spain's highrises. Won't be perfect, but it's a start.
Barcelona (+Hospitalet de Llobregat)
Completed, 11
UC, 1
Proposed, 2
Madrid
Completed, 14
UC, 2
Proposed, 2
Sevilla
Completed, 0
UC, 1
Proposed, 1
Benidorm
Completed, 12
UC, 1
Proposed, 0
Bilbao
Completed, 1
UC, 1
Proposed, 1
Santa Cruz de Tenerife
Completed, 2
La Coruna
Completed, 1
Valencia
Completed, 2
El Ejido
Completed, 1
Los Barrios
Completed, 1
Alicante
Completed, 3
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Saigon (Hochiminh City), Vietnam

Bitexco 262.5m
Timesquare 163.5m
STC 145m
SG Pearl x6 135m
Intercontinental Residential 108m
The Manor 103m
The Manor Officetel 106m
Fico Tower 101.9m
Centec Tower 101m
Thuận Kiều Plaza x3 110m
Diamond Island 113m
Saigon Centre 106m
The Vista x6 110m
Sunrise City South Towers x6 130.9m
The Everrich 1 x2 112m
Hùng Vương Plaza x2 112m
The Flemington x3 106m
Lim Tower 124.5m

note: AB Tower is originally 98m. However, They added another two storey restaurant on top of that building after it's finished.

So overall 40 by now. I will keep the data update.

And these are U/C, T/O and on hold

Saigon One 195.3m
Vietcombank Tower (186m) 206m
Sunrise City Central Towers x4 139.3m
The One HCMC 240m
Ritz-Carlton Saigon 218m
Cinco Plaza 138.5m
Golden Hill 2x 164m
Cantavil x2 144m
Everrich II 152m
SSG Tower 140m
Kenton Residence 150m
Riviera Point x3 147m

Total: 19
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Hyderabad
completed:14
U/C:27
approved/proposed/on-hold:25
source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_in_Hyderabad

Bangalore:
completed:7
U/C:22(might be 31 but the information is incomplete)
source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_in_Bangalore
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And this seems to be the list of Spain's highrises. Won't be perfect, but it's a start.
Barcelona (+Hospitalet de Llobregat)
Completed, 11
UC, 1
Proposed, 2
Madrid
Completed, 14
UC, 2
Proposed, 2
Sevilla
Completed, 0
UC, 1
Proposed, 1
Benidorm
Completed, 12
UC, 1
Proposed, 0
Bilbao
Completed, 1
UC, 1
Proposed, 1
Santa Cruz de Tenerife
Completed, 2
La Coruna
Completed, 1
Valencia
Completed, 2
El Ejido
Completed, 1
Los Barrios
Completed, 1
Alicante
Completed, 3

Benidorm
Complete: 25 (29 including Villajoyosa, wich is part of Benidorm metro area)
U/C: 1 (In Tempo)
app: 1 (Torre Mediterraneo, cut down to 30 floors, but I guess around 100m: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=356309&page=7)

Benidorm: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:R...os_en_Benidorm
Villajoyosa: http://www.emporis.com/statistics/ta...lajoyosa-spain
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1 Building 100m+: Almere, Amiens, Bilbao, Fort-de-France, Ghent, Hertogenbosch, Leeuwarden, Liverpool, London (ON), Luxembourg, Mulhouse, Nancy, Ostend, Sheffield, Spijkenisse, Swansea, Utrecht, Waimalu, Windsor
For France, you can add Nantes (Tour Bretagne 144 m, 32 floors).

And there are actually two towers over 100 m in the Nancy metro area, one in the city proper, the other one in Maxéville (in the suburb) :
Tour Thiers (104 m, 27 floors), Nancy.
Tour Panoramique (108 m, 35 floors), Maxéville.

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bagnolet

Completed: 2
UC: 0
Proposed: 0

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Paris (metropolitan area, so including all the suburbs)

Completed: 72
UC: 2
Proposed: 11
There are actually three highrises over 100 m in Bagnolet.
http://www.pss-archi.eu/villes/FR-93006.html

So the total for Paris metro area should be at least 73 (there are maybe some other highrises in Paris metro area I can't recall of, for now).
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