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Old June 17th, 2014, 06:42 PM   #81
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very ambitious ! lucky city
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Old July 27th, 2014, 12:06 PM   #82
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Old August 2nd, 2014, 09:21 PM   #83
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More than 120 proposals for the masterplan. Renders inside!

http://www.szpl.gov.cn/xxgk/ztzl/cjc...ect/index.html

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Old August 2nd, 2014, 09:31 PM   #84
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Trolls attacking the designs of the concept towers or the fact they some random city as bakcground in 3, 2, 1...
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Old August 2nd, 2014, 10:38 PM   #85
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wrong, Wally is commenting before the trolls with a simple

edit: well looking thru all of these 123 concept designs took a while, but certainly rid me of the boredom i had. additionally to the ones z0rg mentioned i really liked this design that is a bit similar to the sears tower, but changes cladding for inner parts to differentiate them with the outer parts. it is just overall amazingly designed while staying extremely simple. this design i loved as well for similar reasons, i just don't know why they chose to go with a distopian background, while it is cool, it is extremely irritating. this design is quite a piece of art, while still being a really possible design, it plays with the flow of the building and the surroundings and ties the area in as a whole, i really enjoy these towers with the park tied in. the train around it seems a bit random though.

something else to mention is that all these designs seem to stick mostly with the height that was given to them. here we can see for example that they straight up went for the exact maximum given heights (while at the same time using CTBUH material without giving any credit). some designs went a bit higher though, on one i counted 173 floors.

some of the designs just were so crazy. of course i would love something like this to get built, but it would just not be possible in any way.

and yes i realize it is all just concepts, but i was bored and looking thru all the designs was the best that could have happened in that very moment :P
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Old August 2nd, 2014, 11:46 PM   #86
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Wow. I wish all of them could be built.
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Old August 3rd, 2014, 12:02 AM   #87
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yeah, i just wish they move forward with it. the sites are pretty much empty and could start every moment, but choosing a winner from 123 entries and then waiting for a more realistic version, getting everything approved, it all takes time before anything can start at all. baishizhou and caiwuwei all have stuff that needs to be demolished, so it will take long anyways, but shenwan is pretty much already ready to go, with road connection in the right spot and everything :P
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Old August 3rd, 2014, 01:22 AM   #88
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Tallest concept?
Proposal 122


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Old August 3rd, 2014, 12:22 PM   #89
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All of these designs are pretty awesome!
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Old August 3rd, 2014, 04:31 PM   #90
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This is my favorite proposal and if they can build the tallest tower to 680m+ even more awesome:

http://www.szpl.gov.cn/xxgk/ztzl/cjc...ct/big_015.jpg

To me it looks the most practical as well as beautiful. Looks like the place means "business".
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Old August 4th, 2014, 09:27 PM   #92
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most of them are amazing. but only some are unique. i see a lot of shanghai tower influence in many designs which isnt bad but id rather have something new and disturbing

ok seems zorg likes shanghaitowerish designs because when i look through all the designs there arent that many of that kind

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but i think most of these are not realistic
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Old August 5th, 2014, 08:27 PM   #93
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Wow some of those designers have wild imaginations, they should work on the new Star Wars movie.
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Old August 5th, 2014, 09:25 PM   #94
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Awesome!!
I like choose 3 designed so pretty and look like vey tall !!
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Old August 24th, 2014, 06:29 PM   #95
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Grand plans to transform Deep Bay wetlands into a cluster of corporate headquarters spells woe for migratory species, green groups say

Shenzhen’s plan to convert wetlands on the shores of Deep Bay, off northwestern Hong Kong, into a commercial zone with soaring skyscrapers will pose a major threat to bird migration patterns, environmental experts and groups say.

The city government’s project on what mainlanders call Shenzhen Bay was launched in September. A planning design contest to build a “super city” in the area began in June, drawing 124 entries from around the world.

A jury will select eight designs, with the winner getting two million yuan (HK$2.5 million) and the runner-up 800,000 yuan.

The plan calls for a cluster of business headquarters to be built in the Qiaocheng wetlands in Nanshan district, upstream from the Mai Po marshes in Hong Kong. A 35.2-hectare area will be converted into a dense urban centre, according to a blueprint posted on the website of the city’s Urban Planning Land and Resources Commission.

Officials hope to develop a bay area economy that may eventually be on par with the San Francisco Bay Area.

Several skyscrapers of 150 to 680 metres tall will line the shore of the bay. Underground transport links and overhead pathways will connect the towers, which are expected to cater for 180,000 to 220,000 workers.

Four environmental groups based in Hong Kong – WWF, Green Sense, the Hong Kong Bird Watching Society and the Cross-border Environment Concern Association – said they knew little of the development plan, but were very concerned that a commercial project so close to Deep Bay would threaten the many migratory birds visiting the Mai Po Nature Reserve each autumn, winter and spring.

Hong Kong’s Environmental Protection Department and Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department did not return calls seeking comment, nor did Shenzhen’s urban planning commission.

Dr Wen Xianji – a mangrove specialist for WWF, which manages the nature reserve – said the organisation did not know if the Hong Kong government had been informed about the plan.

But any change on the Shenzhen side would affect the environment in Deep Bay, he said.

“Deep Bay is one of the most important stopover sites for migratory bird species that traverse the East Asian-Australasian Flyway,” Wen said. “Mai Po and Shenzhen’s wetlands in Nanshan and Futian districts have a critical influence on bird migration patterns in East Asia.”

He said the planned skyscrapers on the migratory route would definitely affect shorebirds and the Mai Po reserve.

“The buildings will become a physical barrier to the shorebirds and stop them from flying freely between Hong Kong and Shenzhen,” he said. The ecological value of the reserve and Shenzhen’s wetlands would also be badly damaged, he added.

Yu Yat-tung, research manager of the Bird Watching Society, said: “The wetlands area at Deep Bay is one of the most important in the world, but because of cross-border jurisdictions, it has been treated in two separate ways … Hong Kong authorities cannot plan or manage wetlands on the Shenzhen side, and vice versa. We have heard nothing about the giant commercial project in Shenzhen.

“Such a cluster of skyscrapers would definitely be a deathtrap for the birds. You would [see] flocks circling in confusion around skyscrapers and repeatedly colliding with windows and building signage.”

Johnny Wei, founder of the Cross-border Environment Concern Association, urged the Shenzhen government to conduct and release the results of an environmental impact assessment before construction began.

Wei and Yu agreed that environmentalists on both sides of the border should try to get the Shenzhen government to launch a public consultation, and to maintain transparency as the project moved from planning to implementation.

“But I don’t think the Hong Kong government will do much about it,” Yu said.

And if the past was any indication, he said, attempts might be futile because “Guangdong always focuses on the economy and population flow rather than environmental protection”.

Shenzhen had more than 530 hectares of mangrove forest in the early 1980s, one of the mainland’s most important wetland conservation zones. Today, less than a quarter of that space – just 130 hectares – remains because of urbanisation, local media say.

The Shenzhen Economic Daily quoted the China Coastal Waterbird Census 2014 report as saying the number of shorebirds living in Shenzhen’s mangrove wetlands had fallen 17 per cent since last year.

Xiong Yang, of the Green River NGO, has long studied Shenzhen’s mangrove forests and thinks the situation is bleak.

“The new enterprise-headquarters project will be right next to the wetland park – another commercial reclamation project in the Qiaocheng wetlands – and will become a new threat to the nearby Mai Po reserve, even though the developers and authorities have hailed the park’s new villas, artificial lake and yacht docks as a haven for birds,” Xiong said.

“To make the wetland park attractive to property buyers and tourists, the developers are trying to clean up the area and also bring in seawater. It will make the park look beautiful and clean, but it will be a disaster for the fragile ecosystem.”
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Old August 24th, 2014, 07:43 PM   #96
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Luckily this is not Germany - here they would block all development and make it a wildlife reserve

I mean there is nothing wrong with environmental protection, but there is more than enough space in China where it is reasonable and a good thing to create wildlife reserves, national parks and everything else. But please don't try to do wildlife protection in the heart of the largest conurbation on the planet.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 08:06 PM   #97
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It is a shame, many Germans are from the start against every single medium big or big project. Like one skyscraper would destroy the whole cities charme, a new trainstation the whole wildlife 20 km arround it and a new philarmony would make a city bankrupt.
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to be fair, your city was hit extra-hard with nimbyism

but yeah, i doubt a few birds will result in restrictions for the shenwan station towers
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Old August 24th, 2014, 08:53 PM   #99
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Yeah, "nimbysim" is really getting out of hand here in Stuttgart. If you look at the webpage of the local newspaper "Stuttgarter Zeitung", you'll find a lot of negative user comments in the comments section under nearly every construction news article (even for really small and irrelevant projects).

Back to topic (Shenzhen): As far as I understand it, there are only several NGOs complaining about the projects. They don't really have a say in this matter. There is just too much money involved (or at stake).
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Old August 26th, 2014, 09:52 PM   #100
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Yeah, "nimbysim" is really getting out of hand here in Stuttgart. If you look at the webpage of the local newspaper "Stuttgarter Zeitung", you'll find a lot of negative user comments in the comments section under nearly every construction news article (even for really small and irrelevant projects).

Back to topic (Shenzhen): As far as I understand it, there are only several NGOs complaining about the projects. They don't really have a say in this matter. There is just too much money involved (or at stake).
That's an understatement.
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