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Old June 20th, 2013, 04:34 AM   #1
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Neo-Gothic Architecture

We will start off this thread with my much loved St. Patrick's Cathedral in the middle of Manhattan

I was introduced to it by my parents when I visited my Dad who worked in midtown. I love it.

New York's Neo-Gothic masterwork.






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Old June 20th, 2013, 04:48 AM   #2
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The theme of the renewed interest in the Middle Ages during the Victorian era is quite fascinating. It combined romantic fascination with a longing for an ideal past. The tremendous expansion of building in Britain and the US during those years produced many structures that are intended to capture the lost Medieval past.

Here we have the Northampton Guild Hall, designed by Edward William Godwin and built in the 1860s.





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Old June 20th, 2013, 04:51 AM   #3
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Careful not to post any Gothic architecture here. That's the last thing this thread needs. We need 'neo-Gothic,' instead.

Gothic church -er I mean- neo-Gothic church at Kylemore


Hungarian Parliament Buildings, Budapest (one of the best buildings on the planet, imo )



Woolworth Building, NY


Cathedral of Learning, Pittsburgh


Tribune Tower, Chicago


Chicago Temple Building, Chicago
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Old June 20th, 2013, 05:24 AM   #4
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The Woolworth building is a gem. I am very glad that it was not destroyed in the frenzy of "improvements" ( ) that have destroyed so much of our recent past.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 06:53 AM   #5
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Victoria Tower,


Elizabeth Tower,


and the rest of the Parliament Buildings (London)
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The Basilica of Saint Clotilde (1846-1857), Paris :






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Moved from the "true gothic" thread

New Peterhof Railway Station; Russia, St. Petersburg; Peterhof, Privokzalnaya sq., 7; 1857; architect: Nicholas Benois; neo-gothic; 59°51'51.15"С 29°55'27.82"В

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Good idea this tread, there is some misconception about gothic and neo-gothic in the 'Gothic Architecture' tread. I think you should make clear in the beginning that Gothic is the style from the middle-ages and that neo-gothic is the name of a movement from the 19th century (and 20th) that tried to revive that style.

So it really comes down to the time it's build. The buildings in the 19th century have a tendency to emphasize on decoration, use materials and techniques that are common in the 19th century and off course have aged less. In the 19th century styles weren't always pure, creative freedom was even allowed to improve the style according to own ideals. There were even mix-ups (eclecticism). But even when a 19th century church perfectly emulates a medieval church it's still neo-gothic, just because of the time it's built in.

The idealization of the middle ages was a product of the romantic era (Jean-Jacques Rousseau started the craze). They saw the natural state of man as perfect, healthy and non-violent. And the middle ages that weren´t spoiled yet by the modern sciences, philosophy and technology (modern->renaissance that is) was to reflect the idyllic state. A time of a harmonious social order and unspoiled nature and true religion (plagues, wars and witch-hunts excluded). Also important is the idea that culture was a integrated entity. So, that means that the style of architectural style is not isolated. It (should) reflect the fundamental ideals of the society it is founded in. What better way to improve society then to built it up according to the right style? In France Eugène Viollet-le-Duc was a big representative of that ideal.
Btw. some people just liked the huge cathedrals, like we do

Keep in mind that in England there is some so called gothic-survival. In England gothic architecture kept being popular throughout renaissance/barok/classicist times. They developed the perpendicular style for example. In the 19th century that movement linked again onto the neo-movement. Technically those buildings don't fit in neither timeframe. Funny piece of history, but only applicable for some cases in England.
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Moved from the "true gothic" thread

New Peterhof Railway Station; Russia, St. Petersburg; Peterhof, Privokzalnaya sq., 7; 1857; architect: Nicholas Benois; neo-gothic; 59°51'51.15"С 29°55'27.82"В

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But it still is neo-gothic, there just is no value judgement in that term, even though some people might think so.
So there is no need for the "sarcasm marks" around true.

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Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception of the Holy Virgin Mary; Russia, Moscow / Malaya Gruzinskaya st. 27/13 / 1901-1911 / Architect: Tomasz Bohdanowicz-Dworzecki / 55°46'1.59"С 37°34'16.77"В

It was closed in 1936 and quite badly damaged, returned to being a church in 1996, reconstructed in 1999.


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It's interesting to see how many neo-gothic structures were built in pre-revolutionary Russia.

There are neo-gothic churches as well as civic buildings and railway stations. The prosperity and capitalism of the 19th century produced commercial buildings that are built on a massive scale.
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It's interesting to see how many neo-gothic structures were built in pre-revolutionary Russia.
Of course, not that many as neo-classic or eclectic historism or modern, but still there are some nice examples. I'll try to show some more of them later.
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Same here! That's a stunningly beautiful building. NYC at its best!
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