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Old July 13th, 2013, 06:09 PM   #221
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A couple of Beijing South pictures I took on Friday







to subway


you can see the crowd





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Old July 13th, 2013, 09:47 PM   #222
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I guess Beijing should learn from Shenzhen and build underground HSR stations.
Has Beijing built an underground HSR railway from Beijing West to Beijing station?

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Old July 13th, 2013, 10:07 PM   #223
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Both stations should have been designed larger considering the fast increasing HSR crowd.
They have been. They were HUGE and EMPTY in the beginning, and everybody said that was because they were considering the fast increasing HSR crowd. But perhaps the increase is too big and too fast
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Old July 14th, 2013, 03:27 AM   #224
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Has Beijing built an underground HSR railway from Beijing West to Beijing station?
it's still U/C. it's said to open in 2014.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 10:16 AM   #225
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There should be more HSR trains and less normal trains in Beijing West.
Where should the slow speed trains go?
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Old July 14th, 2013, 10:33 AM   #226
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That's why we need more platforms in Beijing. Slow trains could be gradually replaced with 160 ~ 200 kmph ones.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 11:26 AM   #227
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That's why we need more platforms in Beijing. Slow trains could be gradually replace them with 160 ~ 200 kmph ones.
When high speed trains proceed to Beijing rather than terminating at Beijing West, shall it release platforms at Beijing West for the use of slow trains?
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Old July 14th, 2013, 12:46 PM   #228
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Hi all, ask you,

Hangzhou East Railway Station (New) go to Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station by CRH

how much price RMB for per ticket?? please tell me, Thank You
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Old July 15th, 2013, 07:50 AM   #229
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Hi all, ask you,

Hangzhou East Railway Station (New) go to Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station by CRH

how much price RMB for per ticket?? please tell me, Thank You
73 second class, 117 first class.

learn to use baidu, you don't need to go a website, just type in the names of two stations, and train schedule and price will pop up...

http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%E6%9D%AD%...A1%A5&ie=UTF-8
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Old July 15th, 2013, 07:55 AM   #230
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yes. With all the stores opening Hongqiao station (as well as Beijing South) looks like a giant shopping mall. But Hongqiao is bigger in size so it's not as bad as Beijing South. Both stations should have been designed larger considering the fast increasing HSR crowd.
I believe a few years ago, the concern was the station been too big and too empty...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...75C1OF20110613
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Old July 15th, 2013, 08:55 AM   #231
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"HANGZHOU EAST --------------the biggest station in ASIAN~"

What exactly is meant by that?
According to Wikipedia:
"As of 2006, the world's largest station was Beijing West station in Beijing.[11] But subsequent stations have also been claimed as larger than Beijing West; Beijing South, Guangzhou South, Nanjing South, Shanghai Hongqiao and Xi'an North all also claim to be Asia's largest.[12]"

The biggest station in China would also be the biggest station in the world, and I have heard of many stations claiming to be the biggest station in China, and now you added Hangzhou to that list?

Can anyone say which is ACTUALLY the biggest, and in what category (m2, m3, number of platforms, number of tracks, number of passengers, etc.)?
What was the biggest get superseded by bigger ones, that why. Hangzhou East is indeed massive, lots of HSR lines seems to intersect it.
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Old July 15th, 2013, 10:20 AM   #232
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Hongqiao Station is a bit better than Beijing South but it's also a giant shopping mall and I see more people every time I visit.





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73 second class, 117 first class.
And 219 yuan 5 jiao in business class.

Who are the shopping malls at Hongqiao and Beijing South stations accessible to? Everyone? Passengers ticketed to depart? Arriving passengers?
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Old July 15th, 2013, 11:12 AM   #234
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The departure waiting hall shopping area (shown in first and second pictures) are accessible to ticket holders (I don't see tickets getting checked at entrance though). The lower level (shown in 3rd picture) stores are accessible to everybody.
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Old July 15th, 2013, 07:59 PM   #235
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I was at Hongqiao a couple of months ago and was also hit by the crowd, one thing they can do is to add a second level in the middle of the waiting hall, but then there is the problem of people accessing it and not to mention the interruption caused by the construction. Ultimately Chinese rail passengers need to be educated so that they arrive just in time for the train, not wait around like they used to do with regular trains.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 04:41 AM   #236
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Ultimately Chinese rail passengers need to be educated so that they arrive just in time for the train, not wait around like they used to do with regular trains.
For that to happen, a free and easy (preferably automatic) re-ticketing process for miss trains are required. Otherwise people will always show up early for those just-in-case situation. I usually show up at least half hour early for this reason.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 05:10 AM   #237
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yes ticket holders can re-ticket to next train if they miss the train (for free or minimum cost). but still it's not so convenient and people don't like the last minute rush. On the other hand it's already much easier getting to the train than getting on a flight. I usually wait at the gate for 1 or even 2 hours before boarding on a flight.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 08:24 AM   #238
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It is highly recommendable to purchase a train ticket at least a day in advance, if not much more~ European practice of casual going to railway stations and buying tickets to wherever does not work in China. The good thing though is that time tables are punctual up to a minute most of the time, and thus being at the boarding gate some 15-30 mins before the departure will do the job. Compared to airline transport, this is heaven~
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Old July 16th, 2013, 09:00 AM   #239
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>boarding gates some 15-30 minutes before departure

Sounds like boarding for a flight to me
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Old July 16th, 2013, 09:54 AM   #240
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It is highly recommendable to purchase a train ticket at least a day in advance, if not much more~ European practice of casual going to railway stations and buying tickets to wherever does not work in China.
How convenient are Taiwan HSR and Japanīs Shinkansen for casually going to station and buying a ticket?
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