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Old November 11th, 2014, 06:59 PM   #2061
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It will be hard to beat Manhattan if all those towers do come into fruition!
It will be hard to beat Manhattan also because no other skyline has the variety of architectural styles it has. We are talking of over 100 years of different styles making a beautiful and eclectic skyline.
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Old November 11th, 2014, 08:56 PM   #2062
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It will be hard to beat Manhattan also because no other skyline has the variety of architectural styles it has. We are talking of over 100 years of different styles making a beautiful and eclectic skyline.
In terms of architectural style, I think only Chicago can compete with Manhattan.
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Old November 11th, 2014, 11:00 PM   #2063
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Agree. There are tons of other cities that built skyscrapers 90 years ago, but they didn't build as many or as tall. Most of Toronto's 1920s skyscraper proposals never got off the drawing board or were torpedoed by the Great Depression. Eaton's College Park is the most notable example. Construction stopped after just 7 floors built. Upon completion, it would have become the largest retail and office complex on the planet.

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I agree, having 50 200m+ towers is the elite league. So far, only New York, Hong Kong and Dubai can claim that. Shanghai is very close. Shenzhen's number will go trough the roof once all those projects get finished. It will be the first city to have 100 towers over 200m.
In 2025 only New York and Shenzhen will have 100 buildings 200m+. Mumbai is a dark horse. They're building like crazy, but the documentation is poor at best.

Another 10 cities will likely have 50 buildings 200m+ by 2025: Hong Kong, Dubai, Shanghai, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Tianjin, Manila, Chongqing, Guangzhou, and Toronto.
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Old November 12th, 2014, 04:05 AM   #2064
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I'm surprised this future "rendering" of NYC hasn't been posted yet. Credit goes to Xoltage. The only tower I'm not sure about is the thin one between 1 WTC/125 Greenwich and the Empire State Building. 3 WTC is also not quite visible but it may be the angle.

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A tad sci-fi

I'm personally really interested in how Guangzhou will turn out. Jakarta seems to be going through a LOT of construction, but like Manilla I'm not sure it will be able to form a cohesive skyline (but I'm hoping to be proved wrong on this).
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Old November 13th, 2014, 11:18 PM   #2065
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http://www.ctbuh2015.com/

The CTBUH has launched its 2015 Conference website. “Global Interchanges: Resurgence of the Skyscraper City” will be held in New York from 26-30 Oct. 2015

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After a post-recession hiatus in tall building construction in many countries lasting several years, numerous cities in the Americas, Asia, Europe and Australia are again resurgent. Nowhere is this more evident than in New York, where several new urban typologies are developing simultaneously. In addition, the increasing importance of both resilient infrastructure in the face of mounting climate change, as well as quality public space, are adding to a fascinating mix.

Yet the flow of capital enabling many of these projects is complex, and shows an interconnectedness of cities. Developments in Sydney are as likely to be driven by forces from Shanghai as locally, Canadian pension funds are enabling several tall buildings in London, and Middle East capital seems, once again, to be everywhere. Also, after a decade or more of unprecedented vertical growth in Chinese cities, China is now investing in myriad urban centers around the world. The New York conference will explore what this all means for the future of the skyscraper. Join us to find out more.
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The initial 50 buildings for the conference skyline are shown below. As with previous years, this skyline will be modified as the event grows closer. Be sure to get involved in the conference now to have your say on which buildings will be included in the final list. Buildings in the skyline must be completed, under construction, or firm proposals since 2013. They must also be iconic projects that challenge current notions of tall building design in terms of form, performance, engineering, programming, or some other factor.
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Old November 14th, 2014, 07:37 AM   #2066
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NYC is dominate.

15. Manhattan West Office Towers x2 995 ft
22. One Vanderbilt 1514 ft
23 111 w 57th Street - 1397 ft+
25. 225 w 57th street - 1775 ft
26. 30 Hudson Yards ~ 1280 ft, 10 Hudson Yards 905 ft
28. 53w53rd [Tower Verre]
39. 4 WTC - 977 ft (built)
40. One57 - 1005 ft (built)
43. 432 Park Avenue - 1397 ft (t/o)
45. 1 WTC - 1776 ft (built)

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Old November 14th, 2014, 11:49 PM   #2067
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Nice list.

Btw, 1 WTC is 1368 ft with a 408 ft antennae attached to it.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 03:13 AM   #2068
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Nice list.

Btw, 1 WTC is 1368 ft with a 408 ft antennae attached to it.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 06:45 PM   #2069
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It's an honest over sight. No big deal.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #2070
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Old November 15th, 2014, 07:39 PM   #2071
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NYC is dominate.

15. Manhattan West Office Towers x2 995 ft
22. One Vanderbilt 1514 ft
23 111 w 57th Street - 1397 ft+
25. 225 w 57th street - 1775 ft
26. 30 Hudson Yards ~ 1280 ft, 10 Hudson Yards 905 ft
28. 53w53rd [Tower Verre]
39. 4 WTC - 977 ft (built)
40. One57 - 1005 ft (built)
43. 432 Park Avenue - 1397 ft (t/o)
45. 1 WTC - 1776 ft (built)

What about the metric system? try to get a pro, man!
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Old November 15th, 2014, 09:21 PM   #2072
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Nice list.

Btw, 1 WTC is 1368 ft with a 408 ft antennae attached to it.
The CN Tower isn't even a building. It's 1815' of......double standards??????
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Old November 19th, 2014, 07:59 AM   #2073
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The CN Tower isn't even a building. It's 1815' of......double standards??????
Isaidso is one of the most neutral member here imo...he isn't ashamed that toronto doesn't have a supertall.

1 WTC does have a long stick for a spire. Could've made a building with higher rooftop if height was such a necessity

Spire on the Nordstorm doesn't look so fake in comparsion
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Old November 19th, 2014, 08:11 AM   #2074
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The CN Tower isn't even a building. It's 1815' of......double standards??????
What does the CN Tower have to do with isaidso's post in the first place?
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What does the CN Tower have to do with isaidso's post in the first place?
He compares it to buildings, gives it credit for its full height, but refuses to recognize spires while this, in effect, is just a gigantic 1815' spire!

The double standard is that if the spire on 1 WTC doesn't count, then the CN Tower isn't 1815'!

To be honest, I don't really recognize spires either. However, if somebody is trying to pass off an apples to oranges comparison as if it's apples to apples, it's the kind of inconsistency I am likely to point out.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 06:03 PM   #2076
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He compares it to buildings, gives it credit for its full height, but refuses to recognize spires while this, in effect, is just a gigantic 1815' spire!

The double standard is that if the spire on 1 WTC doesn't count, then the CN Tower isn't 1815'!

To be honest, I don't really recognize spires either. However, if somebody is trying to pass off an apples to oranges comparison as if it's apples to apples, it's the kind of inconsistency I am likely to point out.

But where did he do it this time? The timing of your post made it seem kind of off-the-wall and out-of-the-blue.
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But where did he do it this time? The timing of your post made it seem kind of off-the-wall and out-of-the-blue.
He posts everywhere, just like you, just like me. I'm not going to search through but it was recent. I think it was comparing the CN Tower to 432 Park, saying how CN Tower was well over 100m taller, blah blah, but then turning around and not acknowledging that WTC is only like 15 m shorter than CN Tower, instead saying the spire doesn't count at all. There's the double standard. It just so happens that the last post is where I noticed the inconsistency with the previous one.
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The double standard is that if the spire on 1 WTC doesn't count, then the CN Tower isn't 1815'!
But the two aren't comparable at all. One it's a steel antenna on top of a skyscraper, the other it's a concrete communications and observation tower. The CN Tower isn't a spire or an antenna, so while I don't agree with isaidso, I don't see your point either.
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He posts everywhere, just like you, just like me. I'm not going to search through but it was recent. I think it was comparing the CN Tower to 432 Park, saying how CN Tower was well over 100m taller, blah blah, but then turning around and not acknowledging that WTC is only like 15 m shorter than CN Tower, instead saying the spire doesn't count at all. There's the double standard. It just so happens that the last post is where I noticed the inconsistency with the previous one.
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The timing of your post made it seem kind of off-the-wall and out-of-the-blue.
If you had addressed this where he posted what you're talking about, it would make a lot more sense. How you're posting wouldn't make sense to someone just visting the thread.
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Nice New York list, but including antennae skews things considerably. For me WTC is a 417m tower with a 124m stick attached to its roof. Likewise, most people count First Canadian Place in Toronto as a 298m tower rather than a 355m super tall (height including antennae).
Is the top of the 1WTC an antenna or a spire? I thought it was considered a spire rather than an antenna.
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