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Old December 25th, 2014, 05:17 PM   #2181
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A Toronto skyscraper enthusiast has been hard at work for a while to give us Torontonians a 2014 Christmas present. Here below is a depiction of what the downtown Toronto skyline will look like if all proposals currently on the table get built.
Based on what's under construction now, how many over 200m?
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Old December 26th, 2014, 06:56 PM   #2182
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13 built, 8 currently under construction, 19 at the proposal stage. If everything works out as planned we'll go from 13 to 40 200m+ buildings in just a few years. We were only at 8 such buildings 5 years ago.

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^ Pretty packed i.e. dense if you ask me. It really is time some nice supertalls.
Toronto is still quickly evolving, but this latest batch of proposals will get the downtown to the next level. That's roughly a 4.5 km stretch of high rises one after another shown in that rendering; not bad at all. The number of 100 m+ buildings in the core could double by 2020 to roughly 400 such buildings today.

Btw, the tallest tower depicted to the right of the CN Tower would be a super tall. It was approved at 304m. The skyline could certainly do with 4-5 in the 350 m-450 m category though.
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Old December 26th, 2014, 07:08 PM   #2183
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Old December 27th, 2014, 05:20 PM   #2184
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i think even ten years from now the leading skylines would still dominate.
1-2 a toss between HK and NY. both have quantity, height and aesthetics. but if i really have to choose, it's gotta be NY but this is already subjective.
3 shanghai has the density and height and is building more and more supertalls
4-7 chicago has a great skyline already and i dont think it will fall down the rank within ten years. dubai is destined to have more supertalls as well. shenzen and tianjin are growing really fast with massive skylines with several suoertalls UC.
8-10 battle between toronto, riyadh and SEA cities.
KL-easily recognizable skyline with the majestic PTT. the skyline is actually denser and denser and PTT is my fave Scraper in SEA
SG-although small but already very aesthetically pleasing. it will grow more IMO. not to mention very agressive architectures. i mean Marina Bay Sands is my profile pic.
MM-very impressive even without a supertall. doesnt mean it doesnt need one or more. i think if the height limit will be lifted and a very appropriate supertall is built as a centerpiece, it can climb very high on my list.
BKK and JKT has many High rises but are too spread apart currently. if their skyline become dense like KL and MM then they will be a contender for top ten.

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Old December 27th, 2014, 05:58 PM   #2185
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Fair view

But riyadh? I think Doha or Guangzhou will be a better candidate
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Old December 28th, 2014, 06:03 AM   #2187
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But riyadh? I think Doha or Guangzhou will be a better candidate
yes yes. that is what i was gonna say! i mixed up qatar and KSA cities. doha is what i meant. im not really familiar with middle east. anyway guangzhou is definitely a big contender literally and figuratively but i think my eyes are already saturated with chinese cities. i just want to give other cities in asia esp in the southeast the benefit of the doubt.
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Old December 28th, 2014, 06:04 AM   #2188
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Petronas Twin Towers are my absolute favorite.
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i think even ten years from now the leading skylines would still dominate.
1-2 a toss between HK and NY. both have quantity, height and aesthetics. but if i really have to choose, it's gotta be NY but this is already subjective.
3 shanghai has the density and height and is building more and more supertalls
4-7 chicago has a great skyline already and i dont think it will fall down the rank within ten years. dubai is destined to have more supertalls as well. shenzen and tianjin are growing really fast with massive skylines with several suoertalls UC.
8-10 battle between toronto, riyadh and SEA cities.
KL-easily recognizable skyline with the majestic PTT. the skyline is actually denser and denser and PTT is my fave Scraper in SEA
SG-although small but already very aesthetically pleasing. it will grow more IMO. not to mention very agressive architectures. i mean Marina Bay Sands is my profile pic.
MM-very impressive even without a supertall. doesnt mean it doesnt need one or more. i think if the height limit will be lifted and a very appropriate supertall is built as a centerpiece, it can climb very high on my list.
BKK and JKT has many High rises but are too spread apart currently. if their skyline become dense like KL and MM then they will be a contender for top ten.

my five cents. i only joined SSC just today so i dont know if ive broken rules already.
Same opinion here, If Manila will remove the height limit and build a megatall on those dense and compact buildings. I will place it on number 8 or 9 on my top 10 list.

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Petronas Twin Towers are my absolute favorite.
I didn't like Petronas when it first went up, but it's growing on me. It's certainly an aesthetic suited to that part of the world rather than here. KL's skyline is starting to gel now that it's developing some density. It could still do with a lot more in-fill though.
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3. shanghai has the density and height and is building more and more supertalls
I love Shanghai and its skyline is impressive.
But unfortunately, besides Shanghai Tower (nearly completed) and Sinar Mas Center (nearly T/O), there are no supertalls in prep.
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i think even ten years from now the leading skylines would still dominate.

1-2 a toss between HK and NY. both have quantity, height and aesthetics. but if i really have to choose, it's gotta be NY but this is already subjective.

I'd bet on NY. Construction in New York thrives while Hong Kong has almost stopped. I'm not sure why. Maybe it'll start up again soon? I've been meaning to look into it for months now
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Old December 28th, 2014, 11:37 PM   #2193
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Same opinion here, If Manila will remove the height limit and build a megatall on those dense and compact buildings. I will place it on number 8 or 9 on my top 10 list.

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i think it should be a little bit out of the box. the designs of scrapers in MM tend to be conservative and sophisticated although it works because they're concentrated in one area. look at how PTT changed KL skylines. but not like scrapers in ME. they looked so futuristic.

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I didn't like Petronas when it first went up, but it's growing on me. It's certainly an aesthetic suited to that part of the world rather than here. KL's skyline is starting to gel now that it's developing some density. It could still do with a lot more in-fill though.
PTT is a very detailed building IMO. it looked cylindrical from pics but it actually has many edges if you looked at it closely. and the bridge is my fave part. am i going off topic? am i breaking rules? i talk too much about PTT. but i agree with you. KL skyline will not be as plausible without PTT IMO. it still needs more density.

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I love Shanghai and its skyline is impressive.
But unfortunately, besides Shanghai Tower (nearly completed) and Sinar Mas Center (nearly T/O), there are no supertalls in prep.
i guess i am not up to date with shanghai. i thought something like skycity is UC in shanghai or am i just imagining things? haha. but shanghai would still be my top 3. what do you think?

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I'd bet on NY. Construction in New York thrives while Hong Kong has almost stopped. I'm not sure why. Maybe it'll start up again soon? I've been meaning to look into it for months now
NYC is my Top 1 subjectively and i daresay objectively. i saw a photo of NYC with central park in the middle during winter. it was majestic. this is off topic but the movie annie is set in NY. i think i am already spamming the page. will i get banned?

i know i am already spamming but what do you think of SG's skyline. i think it has variety. just look at this photo. i still don't know how to give photo credit, is there a thread about general rules here? anyway, i got this from matadornetwork.com if this will do.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 12:20 AM   #2194
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Here are a few more angles of that Toronto 2020 rendering. The old CBD will be almost completely blocked from view in a few years:

Traditional lake view


View from the CN Tower looking NNE towards Yorkville


View looking east from City Place

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PTT is a very detailed building IMO. it looked cylindrical from pics but it actually has many edges if you looked at it closely. and the bridge is my fave part. am i going off topic? am i breaking rules? i talk too much about PTT. but i agree with you. KL skyline will not be as plausible without PTT IMO. it still needs more density.
No, you're doing fine and welcome to SSC. The architecture of Petronas is quite different than what I was used to in skyscraper design. It speaks to the culture in that part of the world and that's what's important imo. I've come to like the design quite a bit; it just took a little time for my north American eyes to warm to it.

Having skyscrapers spread out creates the impression of a bigger skyline, but one sacrifices those gorgeous urban canyons you see in places like New York, Toronto, and Chicago. I suppose it boils down to personal taste, but feel KL will go up a few notches when if it develops a city scape where skyscrapers are packed in like sardines.
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Of course not! As you see, I simply merged your posts.
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i still don't know how to give photo credit, is there a thread about general rules here? anyway, i got this from matadornetwork.com if this will do.
After each photo you post give credit to the photographer. I write 'Courtesy of ******' but anything on those lines is fine. If you're posting a rendering super imposed on someone's photo, give credit to both the photographer and the person who did the rendering if you know it.

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wow! how did you do that? haha. thanks!
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After each photo you post give credit to the photographer. I write 'Courtesy of ******' but anything on those lines is fine. If you're posting a rendering super imposed on someone's photo, give credit to both the photographer and the person who did the rendering if you know it.

For Flickr photos the rules are more stringent. You have to copy and paste the whole BBM code. When viewing a Flickr photo, grab the BBM code. The posted Flickr photo should look like the one below. The line below the photo should appear identical but with different photo name and different photographer name:


East Bound and Down by stephen.dinallo, on Flickr
thankfully my photo did not show up. my photo credit is incorrect. i guess i have to really familiarize myself with ssc first before posting anything here. is that Toronto? AMAZING! btw thanks for answering my questions. i'm already luring you guys into an off topic discussions. ill go read general guidelines now. BRB!
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wow! how did you do that? haha. thanks!
You have to be one of the forum moderators to be able to do that. If you want to quote more than one post, then click on the option in the lower right that has quotation marks and a plus sign. You do that for each post before clicking on the quote button.
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