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Old March 7th, 2015, 03:53 PM   #2321
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So far there are 59 completed buildings over 200m in New York. 3 have topped out and 15 are under construction. One building is on hold, a dozen is in preparation and about 50 have been proposed.

Average building height:

- of all 200m+ buildlings completed and topped out: 50028/62 = 807 ft / 246 m.

- of all 200m+ buildings under construction: 14550/15 = 970 ft / 296 m.

- of all 200m+ buildings on hold: 1349/1 = 1349 ft / 411 m.

- of all 200m+ buildings in preparation and proposed: 47815/52 = 920 ft / 280 m.

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Total: 113742/130 = 875 ft / 267 m.
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Old March 7th, 2015, 10:45 PM   #2322
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So far there are 59 completed buildings over 200m in New York. 3 have topped out and 15 are under construction. One building is on hold, a dozen is in preparation and about 50 have been proposed.
Here's those 18, for anyone wanting to whet their architectural appetite:
  1. 10 Hudson Yards: 895' (U/C)
  2. 15 Hudson Yards (The Culture Tower): 914' (U/C)
  3. 30 Hudson Yards: 1,287' (U/C)
  4. 30 Park Place: 937' (T/O)
  5. 50 West: 778' (U/C)
  6. 56 Leonard Street: 821' (U/C)
  7. 220 Central Park South: 950' (U/C)
  8. 252 East 57th Street: 715' (U/C)
  9. 432 Park Avenue: 1,397' (T/O)
  10. 520 Park Avenue: 781' (U/C)
  11. 610 Lexington Avenue: 712' (U/C)
  12. Atelier II (605 West 42nd Street): 656' (T/O)
  13. The Beekman Hotel and Residences (5 Beekman Street): 687' (U/C)
  14. City Point Brooklyn: 656'+ (U/C)
  15. Journal Squared: 730' (U/C)
  16. Nordstrom Tower: 1,775' (U/C)
  17. URL® Harborside: 720' (U/C)
  18. Three World Trade Center: 1,171' (U/C)

And then those Preps where excavation has begun and where U/C could happen at any moment. 5 more supertalls are imminent, which would push New York to 15 supertalls (there are currently 7+3WTC, Nordstrom, 30 Hudson Yards U/C). Here's some of the Preps. I'm likely missing a few. New York could have 30 buildings over 200m in construction by the end of this year!
  1. 3 Manhattan West: 665'
  2. 45 East 22nd Street: 777'
  3. 55 Hudson Yards: 780'
  4. 111 West 57th Street: 1,421'
  5. 125 Greenwich Street: 1,356'
  6. 250 South Street: 847'
  7. 420 Albee Square: 679'
  8. Brookfield Manhattan West: 995'x2
  9. Verre Tower: 1,050'

To put things in perspective, Chicago has 28 and Toronto has 15 buildings over 200m completed.
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Old March 7th, 2015, 11:07 PM   #2323
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^ Nice. 250 South St and 55 HY are also U/C (CTBUH + pics confirm it), but haven't been updated.

I just updated my thread on SSP. Also every major building has now a link. Chris has created a a highrise compilation thread over there.

New York is on fire!
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Old March 7th, 2015, 11:21 PM   #2324
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^ Nice. 250 South St and 55 HY are also U/C (CTBUH + pics confirm it), but haven't been updated.

I just updated my thread on SSP. Also every major building has now a link. Chris has created a a highrise compilation thread over there.

New York is on fire!
So it's 20 U/C then! Wow, linked thread looks great. It's so hard to keep track so it's good to have regular updates. It feels like just a year ago we were waiting for the early part of the boom to wash ashore and hit New York. Now we're definitely in the early stages of the boom. 30 buildings over 200m U/C by the end of this year! And up to 10 supertalls will be U/C by the end of this year also. Incredible! By 2030 New York could have 35-40 supertalls imo. Your list (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=194273) already shows 34 as being completed, U/C or proposed. And that's not including the proposals that will be revealed in the upcoming years. We just got word of 335 Madison a few days ago. What an exciting time for New York!

And love the pic too:
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Old March 7th, 2015, 11:29 PM   #2325
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So it's 20 U/C then! Wow, linked thread looks great. It's so hard to keep track so it's good to have regular updates. It feels like just a year ago we were waiting for the early part of the boom to wash ashore and hit New York. Now we're definitely in the early stages of the boom. 30 buildings over 200m U/C by the end of this year! And up to 10 supertalls will be U/C by the end of this year also. Incredible! By 2030 New York could have 35-40 supertalls imo. Your list (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=194273) already shows 34 as being completed, U/C or proposed. And that's not including the proposals that will be revealed in the upcoming years. We just got word of 335 Madison a few days ago. What an exciting time for New York!
Yes, it's beyond impressive, especially for a highly developed city such as New York.
All those proposals are finally coming online. 2015 will be an epic year!
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Old March 8th, 2015, 07:50 AM   #2326
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in Queens and Brooklyn, there are also all sorts of highrise developments lining the East River.







this is the current view (Hunter's Point - Williamsburg - Downtown Brooklyn)


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Old March 8th, 2015, 01:36 PM   #2327
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I'm a bit surprised the East River in Brooklyn and Queen's isn't already lined with condos to take advantage of Manhattan views. I like the condo proposal shaped like an 'O'. We have an almost identical one proposed for downtown Toronto.
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So far there are 59 completed buildings over 200m in New York. 3 have topped out and 15 are under construction. One building is on hold, a dozen is in preparation and about 50 have been proposed.

Average building height:

- of all 200m+ buildlings completed and topped out: 50028/62 = 807 ft / 246 m.

- of all 200m+ buildings under construction: 14550/15 = 970 ft / 296 m.

- of all 200m+ buildings on hold: 1349/1 = 1349 ft / 411 m.

- of all 200m+ buildings in preparation and proposed: 47815/52 = 920 ft / 280 m.

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Total: 113742/130 = 875 ft / 267 m.
Good job Hunser. It looks like New York's boom is in full swing. It's great to see and hopefully the boom will spread to other cities in the US. US cities besides New York I'm keeping an eye on most are San Francisco and Miami. There seems to be an uptick in many places but I think those 2 will outshine the others.

I'm always surprised how little goes up in Los Angeles but maybe that will change?
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I'm a bit surprised the East River in Brooklyn and Queen's isn't already lined with condos to take advantage of Manhattan views. I like the condo proposal shaped like an 'O'. We have an almost identical one proposed for downtown Toronto.
Bloomberg rezoned the waterfront along the East River a few years before the crash. Now the market is heating up in those areas and the zoning is in place, so there will be some rapid changes along the Hunters Point, Greenpoint and Williamsburg waterfront in coming years.
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Old March 9th, 2015, 02:45 AM   #2330
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There's also the Vanderbilt Corridor in NYC which will likely change dramatically. So far there's 1 Vanderbilt (~1400 ft) and the 335 Madison project, but there is potential for more.

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agreed. These blocks are not very big.

Interestingly in MAS NYC show the potential buildout of the Vanderbilt Corridor towers and the it shows both the Roosevelt and 335 Madison sites being taller than One Vanderbilt. The Roosevelt site being THE tallest.

This doesn't even factor in the buying of extra air rights and bonuses.

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Southern Europe / Italy - How could be Milan' skyline (view from Milan Central station)

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the other beast of North America (it could use a supertall or ten, though!)


2014Aug10_toronto_skyline_tommy_thompson by Ruddmill, on Flickr


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Old March 10th, 2015, 04:16 PM   #2333
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Tel Aviv - Yafo & metro with over 300 towers in 2025

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Old March 11th, 2015, 12:24 AM   #2334
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One of Mexico City´s 4 proposed supertalls renders have been released....

Captura de pantalla 2015-03-10 a la(s) 18.36.48 by alexmtzguer, on Flickr

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Old March 12th, 2015, 02:22 AM   #2335
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this photo perfectly demonstrates why Shenzhen probably won't universally be considered #1... the taller skyscrapers are too far apart outside Fuitan. That being said, the future is still bright for this city and skyscraper construction. It should easily sit amongst the top 5.


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Won't that eventually all fill in though? This is China after all. They have a massive population and everything is built on a monumental scale to meet the demands of that population. Shenzhen is really being built to be the new Hong Kong. They're being replaced.
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I think hands down, we are looking at NYC/Shanghai. I don't think no other cities come close to these skylines.

I say NYC only because it has had a major head start, and it is one of the world's largest cities. So, the demand for not just skyscrapers, but high quality skyscrapers is going to continue. It also has a skyscraper culture - unlike a city like Paris/London where people may not care as much for tall buildings.

I think a serious contestors may be Mumbai given its growth in the next decade. Or another major
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Though, Toronto does have a very impressive skyline and it too has a culture of skyscrapers:

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Toronto is north American so it's to be expected that it has a skyscraper culture. Toronto has always been in my top 10 and picked the perfect time to go on the largest building boom in the city's history. With the massive rise of Asian skylines it needs this big vertical push to maintain its position.

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I say NYC only because it has had a major head start, and it is one of the world's largest cities. So, the demand for not just skyscrapers, but high quality skyscrapers is going to continue. It also has a skyscraper culture - unlike a city like Paris/London where people may not care as much for tall buildings.

I think a serious contestors may be Mumbai given its growth in the next decade. Or another major
That pretty much sums up how I view it. London and Paris will have a hard time ever cracking the top 20 even though they're developing a skyscraper culture. They're so far behind and trying to gain on cities growing as fast or faster. London has the added disadvantage of having large parts of the core protected from re-development; not that this is a bad thing.

Regarding Mumbai, it's going vertical at break neck speed but they might need till 2030 to climb into the top 5. They will get there though.
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That Toronto pic is amazing! The city will look sooo good
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