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Old March 31st, 2015, 12:28 PM   #2381
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My freind who is Asian considers Singapore skyline as Kitsch.
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Old March 31st, 2015, 12:50 PM   #2382
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Yes, a little bit kitsch, indeed...
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Old March 31st, 2015, 05:04 PM   #2383
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Paris by 2025 without the twins supertalls (Hermitage Plaza) but with Phare Tower (297m)
+ Hekla (230m)

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Old March 31st, 2015, 09:17 PM   #2384
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I wouldn't exactly call London's skyline "elegant" but at the same time it's not kitsch. My main problem is that the placement of the Shard, which makes it look ridiculously out of place. Otherwise it's an interesting (in a good way) skyline.
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Old March 31st, 2015, 10:10 PM   #2385
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My issue with the London skyline is that while "most" of the buildings are great individually, they do not go well together. The Shard and the Leadenhall towers are amazing. On the other hand, Swiss RE and the walkie-talkie are not my cup of tea. Their shapes do not go well with the architecture around them.
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Old April 1st, 2015, 11:23 AM   #2386
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While I agree that older architecture or even modern buildings in old style can add a lot to a skyline, they do that on the ground level or mid rise level. Some buildings with tall spires might add 150m buildings into the mix, but that's about it. So these buildings add a lot of context to a skyline, but don't add much to the skyline itself. A good skyline can be made better, but cannot rise to another level with good context in my opinion. London, compared to other cities worldwide falls back in the density and height aspect and the context of nice surrounding architecture cannot save that. Talking globally of course, compared to other european cities it wins against all the cities that believe building taller than 150m ruins their cityscape.
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Old April 1st, 2015, 08:46 PM   #2387
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Gosh people need to understand the difference between preference and judgement
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Old April 1st, 2015, 09:04 PM   #2388
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Old April 2nd, 2015, 05:32 AM   #2389
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Well there is Big Ben.
We're talking about skylines, not historical monument

Nobody negate the fact that London has a richer architecture than Toronto. But saying that there's nothing in Toronto beside the CN Tower is a ludicrous statement.
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Old April 2nd, 2015, 06:55 AM   #2390
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... probably because the hype around Toronto is well deserved, building/proposing more skyscrapers than NY, Chicago and LA COMBINED is pretty hype worthy...
This is absolutely false. Toronto is rapidly building its skyline, but let's not get carried away.
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Old April 2nd, 2015, 03:54 PM   #2391
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My fair point of view

Toronto has better skyline than london just because Toronto skyline is more compact, dense and well organised

Maybe its just me that dun like the design of shard and tall London Eye that makes everything dwarf
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Old April 2nd, 2015, 05:11 PM   #2392
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This is absolutely false. Toronto is rapidly building its skyline, but let's not get carried away.
You're right it is, it was true for awhile like Isaidso mentioned. But a check of emporis and the new york diagrams show New York ahead of Toronto now.
New York isn't just booming it's exploding nuclear bomb style... but in a constructive way...
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Old April 2nd, 2015, 05:20 PM   #2393
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It's out of date but before the New York boom started that claim did get bandied about a great deal in the Canadian media. Why? Because from 2005 to roughly 2012 it was true. All the data sites during that time period (CTBUH, SSP, Emporis) backed that claim up. Today it's not the case.
That time period is far too generous. From 2005 to 2008, New York and Chicago were booming. There is no way during that time that Toronto's construction activity exceeded that of the America's three largest cities combined. When the U.S. economy tanked in 2009, construction in all American cities came to a virtual standstill for a few years. So there is probably only a 3 to 4 year period where that statistic may have been true. To me, that statistic speaks as much about the severity of America's recession during those years as it does Toronto's boom.
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Old April 2nd, 2015, 07:27 PM   #2394
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I still think the towers in Shenzhen will be a bit too spread apart for my liking outside of Futian


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Old April 3rd, 2015, 05:29 AM   #2395
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Shenzhen has lots of empty plots and many useless gardens/parks which take a lot of space. Hopefully they'll be demolished for new skyscrapers
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Old April 3rd, 2015, 08:24 AM   #2396
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Old April 3rd, 2015, 11:53 AM   #2397
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That time period is far too generous. From 2005 to 2008, New York and Chicago were booming. There is no way during that time that Toronto's construction activity exceeded that of the America's three largest cities combined. When the U.S. economy tanked in 2009, construction in all American cities came to a virtual standstill for a few years. So there is probably only a 3 to 4 year period where that statistic may have been true. To me, that statistic speaks as much about the severity of America's recession during those years as it does Toronto's boom.
Yes, it had a lot to do with the global recession which was less pronounced in Canada but the data did square with what the media were saying. 2005-2012 may have been too generous but there were lots of years in a row where it was true. It sounded implausible to me too when those headlines got bandied about here so I checked.... many times using many different sources.
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Shenzhen has lots of empty plots and many useless gardens/parks which take a lot of space. Hopefully they'll be demolished for new skyscrapers
I wouldn't call them useless but it is a lot of space for any city to fill in. China is still seeing huge migration from the countryside to the coastal cities so perhaps Shenzhen will fill it all but the growth won't carry on indefinitely. When do demographers predict the tipping point to occur? Is it still far off?
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Agree about Jakarta. New York, Hong Kong, Shanghai, and Shenzhen will definitely be top 10 in 2025. Then there are about 18 skylines that are in the mix for the next 6 spots, Jakarta is one of them.
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