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Old May 13th, 2015, 07:02 AM   #2501
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Why do people overlook Paris's La Defense?
The same reason that another 20-30 skylines around the world don't get mentioned. They may be beautiful but you need a lot more than that to make a 'Best' list. In a world of giant skylines, La Defense barely registers. Scale and height aren't the only weaknesses either. What does it have pre 1980?
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Old May 13th, 2015, 07:20 AM   #2502
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Old May 13th, 2015, 02:39 PM   #2503
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Old May 13th, 2015, 03:47 PM   #2504
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Why do people overlook Paris's La Defense? It looks so stunning! It lacks height but it is still beautiful to look at.

I think Asia lacks creativity, as does most places outside Europe. Taipei 101 is the quality they should be aiming for' and so KL only runs in this field.

I think HK is good to. Moscow is small but pretty.
There is another thread dedicated to European skylines. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1807473
i agree european cities are indeed absolutely stunning. but we are talking about skylines here.
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Old May 13th, 2015, 04:28 PM   #2505
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Though development of european cities are ahead of asian cities but in term of skyline, i would say asian first. Only america and asia can fight in this thread
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Old May 14th, 2015, 08:22 AM   #2506
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I would throw in Melbourne as well.
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Old May 15th, 2015, 04:58 AM   #2507
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2/4 mexico city's new proposed supertalls

Reforma Colon 309m/ 1,013FT



Puerta Reforma 335m/ 1,101FT

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Old May 16th, 2015, 06:19 PM   #2508
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With all the buildings over 200m and supertalls, completed, planned, and under construction, Shenzhen might have a good chance to challenge NY and HK by 2025.

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Old May 17th, 2015, 03:35 AM   #2509
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Nice render by MarshallKnight showing Central Park South, NYC showing Nordstrom, Steinway, and 220 CPS towers currently u/c. Steinway's a little blurry, though.

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Old May 17th, 2015, 04:47 AM   #2510
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It should go like this:

(Top 10 - 16 cities)

1. HK
2. NYC
3. Shanghai
4. Shenzhen triple tie with Guangzhou & Chicago
5. Dubai
6. Singapore & Toronto
7. Nanjing
8. Bangkok tie with Metro Manila
9. Chongqing
10. Melbourne triple tie with Doha & Kuala Lumpur


(Top 15 - 9 cities)

11. Tokyo
12. Sydney & Miami
13. Mumbai & Kuwait
14. London
15. Shenyang, Tianjin & Jakarta


the other 10: (Top 25)

Riyadh, Santiago, Paris, Moscow, Seoul, Hanoi, Rotterdam, Johannesburg, Xiamen, Calgary
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Old May 17th, 2015, 05:32 AM   #2511
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Old May 17th, 2015, 10:42 AM   #2512
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It should go like this:

(Top 10 - 16 cities)

1. HK
2. NYC
3. Shanghai
4. Shenzhen triple tie with Guangzhou & Chicago
5. Dubai
6. Singapore & Toronto
7. Nanjing
8. Bangkok tie with Metro Manila
9. Chongqing
10. Melbourne triple tie with Doha & Kuala Lumpur


(Top 15 - 9 cities)

11. Tokyo
12. Sydney & Miami
13. Mumbai & Kuwait
14. London
15. Shenyang, Tianjin & Jakarta


the other 10: (Top 25)

Riyadh, Santiago, Paris, Moscow, Seoul, Hanoi, Rotterdam, Johannesburg, Xiamen, Calgary
Rotterdam, Johannesburg, Santiago

Rotterdam has not even a 200 meter Skyscraper, Johannesburg stagnated for decades and Santiago has only 2 Skyscrapers.

Tokyo is better than Melbourne and Doha.



Where is for example Panama City, Mexico City, Jakarta, Istanbul, Frankfurt etc.
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Old May 17th, 2015, 12:03 PM   #2513
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No love for San Francisco here. It is not a mega city, but in terms of beauty, the skyline is there. Dozens of new projects are going up, and the future is very bright.
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Old May 17th, 2015, 06:58 PM   #2514
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Stop posting bangkok current skyline

Will they look like this in 2025? If it is then bkk shouldnt be near in top 20
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Old May 18th, 2015, 07:38 AM   #2515
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Chengdu: 24
Panama City: 21
Panama City's at 24. You forgot to add the 3 U/C: HSBC, Paramount and Evolution.
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Old May 18th, 2015, 10:25 AM   #2516
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Monterrey, México [downtown]

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New Skyscrapers are going to be built, might be one of the best Skylines of Latin America by 2025?


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Worldwide Top Ten, by density, and my own personal opinion
1 - 5 ---- Density with skyscrapers over 300m, 1 or more over 400m, attractive designs
6 - 10 ---1 or more skyscraper over 300m, and/or some density with 200m; preference: density with 200m over one single 300m

1. Hong Kong, China
2. Dubai, UAE
3. Shanghai, China
4. New York City, USA
5. Chicago, USA
6. Guangzhou, China
7. Shenzhen, China
8. Singapore City, Singapore
9. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
10. Tokyo, Japan


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11 - 20
* Might be replacing those in 6 -10 in the future 10 -15 years. or not?
** Have few 200m and/or one 300m built over 15 years ago.

11. Seoul, South Corea *
12. Chongqing, China *
13. Houston, USA **
14. Panama City, Panama *
15. Beijing, China *
16. Toronto, Canada **
17. Moscow, Russia *
18. London, UK *
19. Los Angeles, USA **
20. Bangkok, Thailand *



Oops... I just edited this list because I had omitted Beijing...


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** Have few 200m and/or one 300m built over 15 years ago.
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21. Sydney, Australia **
22. Atlanta, USA **
23. Seattle, USA **
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28. Dallas, USA **
29. Osaka, Japan **
30. Frankfurt, Germany **
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Overall, statistics over looks has more weight to me and will be reflected in the article I am writing, no subjective indexes will be included..... except for my country's cities [MX], but I didn't place them in the Top 10, and it is my own personal projection.

That being said, many people here issue their opinions, but they are just that opinions, which I respect, others base their lists on indexes that are subjective.... I am looking into compiling the list strictly by number of buildings, and I am not writing about how beautiful a Skyline is, otherwise San Francisco would be in #1. [Place your favorite city here]

I am writing this list by number of "Skyscrapers" or high rises beginning above 200m.... cities with huge densities over 100m but below 200m will not make it to Top 30.... That is the case of cities such as Sao Paulo, Brazil or other cities in the USA, Canada or Europe. I think the roof was set higher by new Megatalls being erected and therefore, common high rises above 100m but < 200m should not be included.... This also leaves out many cities worldwide and makes the analysis far less complex. The same goes for complex, subjective indexes like: "Oh, this city has a good number of high rises but they're not clustered around X number of meters/miles... they're all spread out".... This reasoning will not be included in the article... Before posting here I have been researching and more than one index favors that kind of criteria....

1 + 1 does not = 3 but 2.... Pure numbers, I hope....
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Old May 18th, 2015, 08:02 PM   #2517
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I realize Toronto isn't everyone's cup of tea, but to put it behind Sydney and London in a skyline ranking is just bizarre.... especially your ranking being quantitative (like you've indicated). You realize Toronto's skyline is roughly 4 times the size of London's and double the size of Sydney's? The proposals in the pipe for London and Sydney won't narrow the gap either. Toronto's lead on both of those skylines will widen.

This might be a good place for you to start: http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html

According to the above study Toronto is 16th by size, Sydney is 33rd and London 59th largest. Calgary has a bigger skyline than London, for instance. I can see London moving into the top 40 in the next 10 years, possibly close to a top 30 but beyond that isn't realistic.

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I would throw in Melbourne as well.
I've long hoped that Melbourne could pull into that 'top' group of world's best skylines. I don't think it's there yet but it looks like they will do it. The number of 200m+ buildings proposed in Melbourne is great to see. Come on Australia!
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Couldn't agree more with the above, as much as I love London it will never compete with Toronto. However where do they get their statistics from, regarding The Worlds Best Skyline?

A few months ago there was a discussion in the London forum pertaining to the skyline ranking, and we concluded they have omitted quite a lot of buildings and structures that would be counted in their rules and method.

London scores 2416 points currently, but this would rise to 2707 if all of London's 90m+ habitable buildings were included. This would again rise to around 2946 if observation/free-standing towers and structures were included, which is allowed in their method.
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I realize Toronto isn't everyone's cup of tea, but to put it behind Sydney and London in a skyline ranking is just bizarre.... especially your ranking being quantitative (like you've indicated). You realize Toronto's skyline is roughly 4 times the size of London's and double the size of Sydney's? The proposals in the pipe for London and Sydney won't narrow the gap either. Toronto's lead on both of those skylines will widen.

This might be a good place for you to start: http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html

According to the above study Toronto is 16th by size, Sydney is 33rd and London 59th largest. Calgary has a bigger skyline than London, for instance. I can see London moving into the top 40 in the next 10 years, possibly close to a top 30 but beyond that isn't realistic.



I've long hoped that Melbourne could pull into that 'top' group of world's best skylines. I don't think it's there yet but it looks like they will do it. The number of 200m+ buildings proposed in Melbourne is great to see. Come on Australia!
You are right Toronto should be above London and Moscow..
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Old May 18th, 2015, 10:04 PM   #2520
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Couldn't agree more with the above, as much as I love London it will never compete with Toronto. However where do they get their statistics from, regarding The Worlds Best Skyline?

A few months ago there was a discussion in the London forum pertaining to the skyline ranking, and we concluded they have omitted quite a lot of buildings and structures that would be counted in their rules and method.

London scores 2416 points currently, but this would rise to 2707 if all of London's 90m+ habitable buildings were included. This would again rise to around 2946 if observation/free-standing towers and structures were included, which is allowed in their method.
I think they do an in house data compilation, but I'm not sure. These studies should always be viewed in the context of the criteria used. Roof heights, official heights, city boundaries, and how up to date the data is can affect the tally.

That said, it's the most representative table I've come across. Stripping out buildings under 90m is a good criteria imo as buildings under that height have little impact on a skyline. Likewise, setting the benchmark too high like 200m is too limiting as buildings 90-200m do have a big impact. Take Vancouver, for instance. I think most would agree that Vancouver has a skyline but it doesn't have a single building with roof height 200m+.

London will end up with a decent skyline but European cities are at a disadvantage. Skyscrapers are relegated to tiny slithers of land due to their low rise historic nature and cities in America (Canada/US) will always have a wider diversity of towers as we've been building them since the 1880s.

Btw, what boundary do you think they used for London? Everything inside the ring road?
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