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Old February 5th, 2016, 11:30 PM   #2821
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In short this is indeed commie block heaven (Shanghai inner city suburbs)

[img]http://previews.*****.com/images/rabbit75123/rabbit751231208/rabbit75123120800067/14803936-Shanghai-city-aerial-view-with-urban-architecture--Stock-Photo.jpg[/img]








This is NOT commie block heaven (Shanghai center, claimed as the world's largest)


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[img]http://image.************.com/z/stock-photo-shanghai-nov-shopping-at-nanjing-road-on-nov-in-shanghai-shanghai-retail-101621689.jpg[/img]
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Old February 5th, 2016, 11:49 PM   #2822
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Whoa, chill out bro



No need to post hundreds of pics
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Old February 6th, 2016, 12:07 AM   #2823
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sorry, but

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Old February 6th, 2016, 12:08 AM   #2824
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sorry off topic:

Anyone from Tianjin know what happened to SM Tianjin Mall?
It's supposed to be the largest in the world, and to be finished year 2015.. any updates?

It's too hard to find updates from China from the internet.. probably not in english..
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Old February 6th, 2016, 12:28 AM   #2825
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Great insight The Spliff Fairy...even if I had to refresh several times to see your entire collection!
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Old February 6th, 2016, 03:22 AM   #2826
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Shanghai is amazing but part of me thinks it will go the same route as Hong Kong, at least for the time being. What I mean is it will remain a world class skyline but with little major development (supertalls, complexes etc.).

That could all change though.
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Old February 6th, 2016, 03:32 AM   #2827
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What makes you think that, Jay?
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Old February 6th, 2016, 03:34 AM   #2828
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Lack of supertall proposals.
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Old February 6th, 2016, 03:44 AM   #2829
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Yeah, I don't think East Asian skylines are necessarily less diverse than North American or European ones. However, I do think it is a problem for Shenzhen. That's the one skyline for which I do not understand the hype, like at all. It's big and impressive for sure, but it just not as interesting as Guangzhou, HK, or most other major Asian skylines.
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Old February 6th, 2016, 04:20 AM   #2830
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Agreed, Shenzhen is lacking in comparison to Hong Kong, Guangzhou & Shanghai.
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Old February 6th, 2016, 04:38 AM   #2831
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Maybe Shenzhen lacks a "true" cluster that stands out from the rest of highrises... and not just isolated "single tower" peaks here and there.
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Old February 6th, 2016, 12:00 PM   #2832
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Shenzhen is forming loads of separate skyscraper nodes so the skyline currently looks bitty, but that's forming very quickly into one huge whole.
Also the skyline is being 'designed' using the heights of the buildings going up to create a wave like effect.






However what it lacks to put it plainly is history, it's only 20-30 years old. It's average shelf life of a building at one stage was 10 years. Thus although one of the most densely populated places in China, and also one of the richest replete with sparkling parks and and tree-lined streets, it lacks the traditional narrow streets, old housing, mixed architecture and hidden lanes you'll find in every other Chinese city.

Streets like these:

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For that you have to go to the informal 'urban villages', semi-legal midrises that went up during the 90s boom, and thus not historic at all (it's all modern concrete blocks). Personally I think these should be preserved for Shenzhen, they're not just historically important but socially too as a microcosm, although they're disappearing fast.




In short Shenzhen is missing texture and fabric.
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Old February 7th, 2016, 04:35 AM   #2833
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Yeah, I don't think East Asian skylines are necessarily less diverse than North American or European ones. However, I do think it is a problem for Shenzhen. That's the one skyline for which I do not understand the hype, like at all. It's big and impressive for sure, but it just not as interesting as Guangzhou, HK, or most other major Asian skylines.
This thread is about 2025. By that time, Shenzhen could possibly have as many 200m+ skyscrapers as Shanghai and Hong kong combined. You get the hype now?
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Old February 7th, 2016, 05:05 AM   #2834
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This thread is about 2025. By that time, Shenzhen could possibly have as many 200m+ skyscrapers as Shanghai and Hong kong combined. You get the hype now?
Shenzhen has already overtaken Shanghai as the city with most 200m+ in mainland china(60 completed or To),Shenzhen will probably overtake Hong Kong this year.

The full count of 200m skyscrapers that are completed,topped out,under construction and under preparations number 193(although some of these might not be built) this does not include proposals that are atleast semi likely like the Caiwuwei redevelopment,China resources Hubei old village redevelopment etc.

To my knowledge no city has ever boomed like this,Dubai never really had the demand,Hong kong boomed in the late nineties/noughties but it seems like development have abruptly stopped there.

all numbers are from gaoloumi
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Old February 7th, 2016, 05:07 AM   #2835
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I don't think Shenzhen will ever form a single dominant node of skyscrapers. Its kind of like NYC on a taller scale, in that it will have a few nodes. NYC has its satellite cities and boroughs. NYC's supertalls and skyscrapers will be more focused in midtown and downtown vs Shenzhen which will have supertalls and skyscrapers spread out all over the place.

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Old February 7th, 2016, 01:29 PM   #2836
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Shenzhen will pretty much be a highrise/ skycraper sea, with nodes of 250m+ and supertalls at Futian, Shenzhen Bay and Luohu.
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Old February 7th, 2016, 09:08 PM   #2837
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This thread is about 2025. By that time, Shenzhen could possibly have as many 200m+ skyscrapers as Shanghai and Hong kong combined. You get the hype now?
Today there is about ~100 completed +150m buildings in Shenzhen and easily +100 +150m T/O, U/C, and Prep.
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Old February 7th, 2016, 09:37 PM   #2838
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Today there is about ~100 completed +150m buildings in Shenzhen and easily +100 +150m T/O, U/C, and Prep.
According to Gaoloumi, there are 151 completed 150m+ buildings in Shenzhen.
http://top.gaoloumi.com/citylist.php?id=49&page=8

And according to Emporis(very inaccurate for chinese cities) , Shenzhen has 794 buildings over 30 storeys, which means there are about 800-900 buildings 100m+ in Shenzhen.(So just after Hong Kong, Shanghai and Chongqing).
http://http://www.emporis.com/city/1...us/existing/41

P/S : I know some 30-32 floors buildings may be under 100m, but on the other hand some 27-29 floors buildings may be over 100m as well.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 06:18 AM   #2840
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I vote for kl.....hehehe
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