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Old March 2nd, 2016, 05:32 PM   #2861
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One Yonge Street 1 and 'The One' should trade places. One Yonge is a gorgeous tower with a classy design. The One is hideous.



Hong Kong is my #1 as well. And New York is #2 and Chicago #3. But let's be real: none of the cities you listed (San Francisco, Seattle, Miami, Chicago, Toronto) are ever going to pose a threat to New York's dominance. New York is going to face competition from Dubai, Guangzhou, Shanghai and Shenzhen. And that's about it.

Hypothetically in the long-term you can add Bangkok, Jakarta, KL, Manila, Mumbai, etc. But New York is the undisputed #1 in the West and will likely retain that title for the next 50 years, at least. No European city competes on the skyline front and New York's biggest Western rivals - London and Paris - are far behind on skyline. Chicago is not building. San Francisco and Seattle are many leagues below New York (as in they'd have to quintuple their skylines, something neither city has the potential to do given NIMBYs.) So I do see Hong Kong and New York as #1 in their respective poles (East and West), with Hong Kong as a better, more cohesive skyline overall (having visited both places).

And I say that as someone from Alexandria, VA who has visited both Chicago and New York, has never lived in either place but would enjoy both if given the opportunity.
I agree with just about everything you said except the part about Chicago not building and the part about no other american cities competing with NY. Lets take Chicago first... For some reason the Skyscrapercity main page has not been updated to show that Chicago currently has about 44 shovels in the ground right now on new skyscrapers and is currently in sight prep demo on about 7 or 8 others. Moreover it has two 800+ footers due to start this year plus a supertall due to break ground within months and a another supertall likely to start by the end of the year. Quiet as it has been kept, Chicago is actually pretty much on fire - experiencing a boom!

Now lets look at other north american cities. 2025 is a long way away. Who knows what sparkling new towers will be in which cities by 2025. Moreover, again, I go back to my view skyline that interpretation is subjective. NY may build more but more does not make it better. If that were the case then some of the Asian cities hands down would have the best skyline. Too me, NY's skyline lacks symmetry. To my eye, you find better symmetry and balance in Seattle, San Francisco, a slew of Asian cities and Hong Kong, Toronto (potentially) and in Chicago.

Time will tell.

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Old March 9th, 2016, 09:30 PM   #2862
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A new report released today has detailed some new fact's on London's highrise boom.

Currently in 2016 there are 436 towers 20 Storeys+ in the pipeline.

This is an increase of 173 in a year. 113% (In 2015 the number was 263)

This doesn't include EIA's which which were released but not entered for planning which would increase the number in the last year by another 27.
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Old March 10th, 2016, 02:27 PM   #2863
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A couple of towers missing, but a few good renders of future Melbourne.

* Red: proposed
* Blue: approved
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Old March 10th, 2016, 09:46 PM   #2864
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Old March 12th, 2016, 09:24 AM   #2865
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A couple of towers missing, but a few good renders of future Melbourne.
It is still a work in progress though

Crazy when you think there are quite a few 200m+ proposals yet to be added and then all of Fisherman's bend which is still absent.
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Old March 12th, 2016, 08:12 PM   #2866
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Melbourne has one of the best skylines around and will be a top 10 contender if the pipeline of proposals get built. Exciting times for Melbourne, for sure.
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Old March 14th, 2016, 08:31 PM   #2867
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2 more renderings showing some of the proposals for part of downtown Toronto. Big changes ahead:

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Old March 14th, 2016, 11:49 PM   #2868
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6sqft has a really incredible rundown of the many new developments slated to go up in Long Island City in NYC. Lots of details on all the projects after the link, but I had to at least post the before-and-after .gif:



Some of the designs aren't exactly inspiring, but that's to be expected of an outer neighborhood like this. But in terms of sheer size, New York's "fifth skyline" is poised to overtake Downtown Brooklyn and Jersey City as the best skyscraper node outside of Manhattan (and would challenge many American and world cities). Now all they need is a true supertall in the works.

Edit: As Ghostface79 pointed out in the NY Projects & Construction Thread, the above leaves out the tallest of the bunch: 23-15 44th Drive.

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Old March 15th, 2016, 12:36 AM   #2869
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Old March 15th, 2016, 07:39 AM   #2870
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A new report released today has detailed some new fact's on London's highrise boom.

Currently in 2016 there are 436 towers 20 Storeys+ in the pipeline.

This is an increase of 173 in a year. 113% (In 2015 the number was 263)

This doesn't include EIA's which which were released but not entered for planning which would increase the number in the last year by another 27.

London will be the next New York!
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Old March 15th, 2016, 10:25 AM   #2871
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London will be the next New York!
London has a looooooooooooooong ways to go before it even comes close to New York's level. It will probably take 50 years to even come close, and thats if its current construction rate holds. Thats a big if. London is in the amateur league as far as skyscrapers go...
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Old March 15th, 2016, 11:58 AM   #2872
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London will be the next New York!
I doubt it unfortunately.

The Skyline Campaign is starting to throw it's weight around. We've seen Renzo Piano's 252m tall tower shelved in Paddington or cut in half anyway. Goodsyard has an awful lot of resistance.

However, I wouldn't call London amateur league in terms of Skyscrapers. Maybe not exceptionally tall as other places but it does have a supertall in the Shard and dozens of 200-300m towers built, U/C or approved.

Canary Wharf alone has 35+ towers between 100-250m U/C or approved.

Greenwich has 25+ 100m towers planned or U/C.

Nine Elms - 15+ 100-200m

Stratford - NO idea but dozens 100m+

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and then the City.
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Old March 15th, 2016, 02:05 PM   #2873
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To me these new skyscrapers actually make New Yorks skyline worse, as they are just bland boxes and way too tall compared to the surroundings. What makes New York truly unique are the old skyscrapers that you can see next to the park. You can almost read history from the facades of these buildings.
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Old March 15th, 2016, 07:17 PM   #2874
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London looks increasingly like it will be the undisputed #1 skyline in Europe. It can realistically jump into a global top 25 by 2040 but not much higher. London has too much ground to make up and the big skylines are rapidly evolving as well.

I suspect some people assume London's skyline will eventually transform into a rival to New York's based on London's current status as projected in 'global city' indices. It's not a realistic expectation and ignores the changes happening globally. We're moving towards a poly-centric world where no 1-2 cities dominate. London will remain an important city, but it will be one of 15-25 major world cities existing on a relatively even footing.

It may be a difficult adjustment for Londoners (and New Yorkers) but one that will have to be made.
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Old March 15th, 2016, 08:12 PM   #2875
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and I thought Manila's boom was over and done.. i guess NOT!

Manila Outsourcing Boom Spurs Most Offices in Quarter Century

About 1.49 million sqm to be built in next two years: Colliers
Supply will pressure rents, push up vacancy rates: Colliers

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About 710,000 square meters (7.6 million square feet) of office space will be built in the Philippine capital this year and more than 780,000 square meters in 2017, broker Colliers International estimates. Each is a record for work space built in a year, and combined represents a fifth of the stock at the end of 2015, according to the broker’s data stretching back to 1990.





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Old March 15th, 2016, 09:42 PM   #2876
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One feeds the other. When you have a residential construction boom downtown, it's often followed by an office construction boom downtown coupled with massive investments in infrastructure (transit, sewers, electrical grid, schools, hospitals). Retail gets added throughout the whole process than the cycle starts up again.
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In Manila's case, it is mainly jobs that feeds the boom. It is One of the main cities that benefit from outsourcing.
most of the buildings under construction are office buildings... and then trickles down to residential and retail etc...
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Old March 16th, 2016, 01:42 AM   #2878
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London looks increasingly like it will be the undisputed #1 skyline in Europe. It can realistically jump into a global top 25 by 2040 but not much higher. London has too much ground to make up and the big skylines are rapidly evolving as well.

I suspect some people assume London's skyline will eventually transform into a rival to New York's based on London's current status as projected in 'global city' indices. It's not a realistic expectation and ignores the changes happening globally. We're moving towards a poly-centric world where no 1-2 cities dominate. London will remain an important city, but it will be one of 15-25 major world cities existing on a relatively even footing.

It may be a difficult adjustment for Londoners (and New Yorkers) but one that will have to be made.
I don't think anyone really thinks London will ever come close to New York. New York is by far and away the best skyline in the world no matter what. Even in a 100 years time in my eyes and I reckon in most people's New York will be the greatest skyline.

Everyone else will be pretenders, bigger, denser whatever - it'll never have the same charm and charisma as the Big Apple.

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However saying that ... It's how skylines looks asthetically in my opinion and LOndon may not be in the top 25 in terms of height or density however it could well be in appearance. Who knows.

Most recent model of Canary Wharf developments posted by SE9. Mine was out of date apparently. 43 towers over 100m+ - to the right you can see Greenwich Peninsular where the Millenium Dome is - That has another 20+ 100m towers U/C or Proposed.





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