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Old August 2nd, 2013, 08:16 PM   #281
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London... by 2025? seriously?
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Old August 2nd, 2013, 10:40 PM   #282
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I love Shenzhens skyline but as with all Chinese cities they are building cracking towers amongst so much dross.

For every decent tower there are 3 or 4 absolutely shocking constructions which wouldn't even be considered by many planning councils in the Western World.

Magnitude "YES" - beyond the shit "YES" - with the shit "MEDIOCRE"

From the top of Shanghai Tower - It's amazing the differences of scale and wealth in such close proximity that's why the likes of NYC, Toronto, Chicago, Hong Kong and in the future London, Miami etc will have an advantage over these generic skylines.
By saying Western skyline, I assume you're referring particularly to North American skylines? And how would London have advantage over Shenzhen? London appears as a rotten basket full ancient boxes with obsolete architecture in contrast to Shanghai or Guangzhou, and it's desperate effort to stay at par with Asian and American cities by building new highrises is very obvious. But of course, it's much too late to catch up, in terms of both quality and quantity. Shenzhen may have ugly 20 storied high-rises, but they are still better than the rusty 3/6 storied buildings which constitute much of the cityscape of London. And about skyscrapers, it's no competition to begin with. Not until 2025 (at least)

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Old August 2nd, 2013, 10:49 PM   #283
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Honestly, the more I look at Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzhen, the more I find to criticize than to admire. Sure, those cities have stand out skyscrapers with beautiful modern designs, but the surrounding buildings, the very buildings that are used to judge how impressive and massive those cities' skylines are, are nothing to brag about. In fact, to me, those large swathes of repetitive residential high rises degrade the skylines.

In newer cities, individuality of skyscrapers are found in the commercial centers. But in residential areas, little can be found. If Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Beijing, and most importantly Hong Kong, had more individualistic residential building designs, New York may not be a top 5 skyline city for long.
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Old August 2nd, 2013, 10:56 PM   #284
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^ New York's rich skyscraper architecture is practically unbeatable. The mix of old and new is something to behold.
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Old August 2nd, 2013, 11:00 PM   #285
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Unless London has skyline photos which can match these, it's safe to say it won't hold a candle to Chinese cities by 2025. As we can see clearly from these photos, Shenzhen is leagues above London (and all other European cities). London's skyline can be compared to the outskirts of Manila or Kuala Lumpur.

However, European cities were never famous for tall buildings anyway, so they have nothing to worry about. London should try to preserve its heritage by not constructing skyscrapers which would ruin its cityscape. It looks better just the way it is
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Old August 3rd, 2013, 04:39 AM   #286
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Lots of third world housing stock in Shanghai still...
LOL, do you even realize how expensive they are?
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Old August 3rd, 2013, 06:10 AM   #287
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Old August 3rd, 2013, 06:36 AM   #288
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All right guys, no more names calling, country bashing and try to avoid the city vs city type of discussion. Thanks!
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Old August 3rd, 2013, 07:52 AM   #289
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Old August 3rd, 2013, 06:46 PM   #290
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I just think most of the buildings in cities like Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Dubai look like they were designed by children. Shanghai somehow manages to look 1000x more fake than Las Vegas, that is supposed to be fake.
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Old August 3rd, 2013, 07:51 PM   #292
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I just think most of the buildings in cities like Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Dubai look like they were designed by children. Shanghai somehow manages to look 1000x more fake than Las Vegas, that is supposed to be fake.
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Old August 3rd, 2013, 08:02 PM   #293
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Lets ignore the trolls and get back to the topic

Shanghai needs 3/4 supertalls in the Puxi area, because Pudong is getting too much attention. Puxi has lots of beautiful buildings as well and the skyline looks very goregeous at night, it shouldn't be ignored

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Old August 5th, 2013, 11:52 PM   #295
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By 2025, this entire shoreline will be filled in with Chinese depth and density.

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Old August 5th, 2013, 11:58 PM   #296
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London... by 2025? seriously?
Ever so slightly disrespectful and ignorant. Do you we get any explanation from you???
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Old August 6th, 2013, 05:48 AM   #297
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With all due respect, there's no way in hell that London will make a best skyline list by 2025. To suggest so is going to elicit responses like that made by '808 state'.... and we're well aware of what is built, under construction, and proposed in that city.

Some Londoners seem to be living in a bubble. Perhaps they should get out in the world before making such ludicrous suggestions?
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Old August 6th, 2013, 06:43 AM   #298
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With all due respect, there's no way in hell that London will make a best skyline list by 2025. To suggest so is going to elicit responses like that made by '808 state'.... and we're well aware of what is built, under construction, and proposed in that city.

Some Londoners seem to be living in a bubble. Perhaps they should get out in the world before making such ludicrous suggestions?
I see London making fringe lists, in the same way that cities like Seattle make fringe lists now, despite lacking in quantity and recent growth. London has lots of uniqueness, very high quality, variety, and style. It really depends on each individual person's preference and how much weight they put on those factors. I see London reasonably being around 40-50 in the world rankings, due to high amounts of competition.

However, I wonder why some cities like London get criticized so harshy, while we give a pass to cities like Vancouver which are consistently over-ranked. (currently constructing its 4th 150 meter building, while London has 15 that are at least topped out) Let's move on and stop acting like London is the worst city to ever get mentioned here.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 06:57 AM   #299
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I think the backlash is due to London being so highly over rated simply due to the fame of the city itself. Anything that goes up there seems to get hyped up to a ridiculous degree. If the same building had gone up in Asia or America, it wouldn't get the same light shone on it.

Vancouver? It doesn't belong in any best world skyline list either, but at least it has an continuous swath of high rises set against a spectacular back drop. The skyline of Vancouver and London both have there good points and drawbacks. Neither deserve better than a #30, imo.

Size isn't everything, but it's a good place to start so the compilation below may help. Btw, 150m+ or 200m+ is too high a benchmark as we've discussed before. By 200m+ buildings Vancouver doesn't have a skyline at all which is absurd.

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100m+ Buildings Completed, Under Construction, Proposed

Hong Kong 2,360
Shanghai 869**
Shenzhen 862**
New York 843
Manila 630
Tokyo 549
Bangkok 527
Guangzhou 387**
Toronto 387
Chicago 335

Dubai 331
Mumbai 306*
Chongqing 264*
Tianjin 264
Seoul 231*
Singapore 226
Kuala Lumpur 224
Jakarta 213
Melbourne 188
Beijing 182
Istanbul 178
Osaka 165
Nanjing 159
Sao Paulo 156
Sydney 146
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Shenyang 128
Miami 122
London 117
Dalian 116
Wuhan 112
Moscow 111
Hanoi 109
Vancouver 101
San Francisco 96
Houston 93
Busan 92*
Los Angeles 86
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Doha skyline the best because the designs very modern
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