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Old June 24th, 2016, 11:08 AM   #3021
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My booming favs are: Kuala Lumpur, Melbourne, Brisbane, Toronto and London.
I think all of these cities will get a whole different skyline by 2025 compared to what they look now.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 11:57 AM   #3022
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IMHO, Brisbane, with its current building proposals, is going to beat Sydney as the second best skyline in OZ. It's more like Calgary than Vancouver in that regard.
Well Sydney still has a lot more existing towers than Brisbane to begin with, but admittedly I think Sydney's height limits had made the skyline look a bit flat. However there's still about 10 200m+ in the pipeline in/around Sydney CBD and a few of these break the current height limits (tallest is the 272m Crown Tower), and they're likely to get up. Though given how sluggish Sydney's planning system is when it comes to tall towers and the city council which holds a rather anti-height, anti-development stance, by the time Brisbane has all its proposals built Sydney might be lucky to get half of its up

What's the difference though is that much of Sydney's development is spread around the metro and not centred around the city centre as much as Melbourne and Brisbane. One particular area to watch in Sydney is Parramatta. It's a 'suburb' 20km west of the city centre but currently has more tower proposals than Sydney CBD itself - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=738 - perhaps a contender for the best 'suburban' skyline in the future?
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Old June 24th, 2016, 04:47 PM   #3023
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I doubt it, shenzhen is already calming down, (like most Chinese cities), as they become more developed. Shenzhen is evolving into a more mature city, like shanghai has, and both will be like Hong Kong (development wise) before too long. Shanghai is further down this road and will be another Hong Kong very soon, it all ready nearly is
How is having more than 60 +200m buildings in active construction calming down? I think that is more than any other city. Most Chinese cities are still building a lot, like Chongqing and Wuhan. Hong Kong is only stopped because the current NIMBY lobby is really strong developers are not willing to put out landmark projects anymore. Of course that does not mean Hong Kong is not building anything.
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Old June 25th, 2016, 12:35 AM   #3024
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How is having more than 60 +200m buildings in active construction calming down?
Especially when there is a further 60+ 200m+ towers in various stages of preparations+a serious dual megatall proposal
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Old June 25th, 2016, 01:46 PM   #3025
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The strong influence of NIMBY in Vancouver with their precious protected view corridors of the snow-peak mountains and maximum height limit of 200 m is maddening!

IMHO, Brisbane, with its current building proposals, is going to beat Sydney as the second best skyline in OZ. It's more like Calgary than Vancouver in that regard.

Skyscrapers over 170 m/557 ft

Brisbane
Population: 2,308,700 (2015)


Calgary
Population: 1,439,756 (2015)


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I noticed that most of Brisbane's tallest skyscrapers are residential towers, OTOH, most of Calgary's tallest skyscrapers are office towers.
Vancouver (and BC) has long been anti-business/anti-development relative to other US/Canadian jurisdictions. Too many restrictions, high taxes, etc.
I think the Brisbane - Calgary comparison is interesting. Vancouver has long been the dominant city in the West, and #3 in Canada. Calgary might
wrestle both away from Vancouver within a generation. Calgary has too many engines of growth to slow it down. It will likely move beyond dependence
on oil by then too. Like you pointed out, Calgary's skyline is mostly office. It will mushroom when people start locating downtown in a big way.

Edmonton flies well under the radar but is silently following in Calgary's footsteps.
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Old June 27th, 2016, 05:56 PM   #3026
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Old June 27th, 2016, 09:43 PM   #3027
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How is having more than 60 +200m buildings in active construction calming down? I think that is more than any other city. Most Chinese cities are still building a lot, like Chongqing and Wuhan. Hong Kong is only stopped because the current NIMBY lobby is really strong developers are not willing to put out landmark projects anymore. Of course that does not mean Hong Kong is not building anything.
I think he's saying that we're not getting a new supertall proposal for Shenzhen every 2 weeks like we used to before (back in 2013 and 2014). In that sense it has cooled down
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Old June 28th, 2016, 12:22 AM   #3028
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makes sense.. lol
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Old June 28th, 2016, 06:47 PM   #3029
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Not a whole lot to debate here.

With Brooklyn/Jersey City :


https://www.cityrealty.com/file/2bb7...778b8d5117ef62

With Long Island City :


https://www.cityrealty.com/file/2bb7...778b8d5117ef62
Well, I think NY obsession with thin towers has gone too far. It'll look like a hedgehog, or like a giant array of a TV/radio towers.
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Old June 28th, 2016, 08:50 PM   #3030
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How is it that NY, already at that size, is till growing tremendously?!
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How is it that NY, already at that size, is till growing tremendously?!
Because it's the alpha world city and everyone on the planet wants to live there

Well not everyone... but many
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Because it's the alpha world city and everyone on the planet wants to live there

Well not everyone... but many
That includes me! I'm working on getting a Master's then moving to NYC!
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How is it that NY, already at that size, is till growing tremendously?!
Because it's the financial capital of the world, primary city in a nation of 330 million people, and the US has the world's largest economy. Of course it's still growing.
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Toronto, Ontario

From the West



Downtown Aerial



From farther out



Yorkville



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Chicago needs its current boom to expand if it wants to keep the #2 skyline in North America.


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Chicago needs its current boom to expand if it wants to keep the #2 skyline in North America.
Projections way back in 2012 suggested that Toronto's skyline might catch up to Chicago's in ~ 10 years. A lot of people scoffed at the notion but it looks increasingly like that's precisely what will happen.

Even if Chicago ramps up the pace of construction it probably won't be enough to hold on to #2. I'd say around 2022-23 they'll be about the same size and it will come down to personal preference.
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Projections way back in 2012 suggested that Toronto's skyline might catch up to Chicago's in ~ 10 years. A lot of people scoffed at the notion but it looks increasingly like that's precisely what will happen.

Even if Chicago ramps up the pace of construction it probably won't be enough to hold on to #2. I'd say around 2022-23 they'll be about the same size and it will come down to personal preference.
I thought Toronto has already overtaken Chicago in #s long time. But I agree. In the near future, it'll all come down to personal preference which has been happening quite for some time now. At this point, the only thing Chicago has over Toronto are its 6 supertalls.
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I thought Toronto has already overtaken Chicago in #s long time. But I agree. In the near future, it'll all come down to personal preference which has been happening quite for some time now. At this point, the only thing Chicago has over Toronto are its 6 supertalls.

I do not agree. There is also variety of architectural style, layering of materials, and placement of iconic buildings.
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I do not agree. There is also variety of architectural style, layering of materials, and placement of iconic buildings.
Chicago has better placement of iconic buildings and still a slim edge in architecture. At the rate Toronto is building will either hold true 10 years from now? I doubt it.

Layering? They both started building high rises in the 1890s. How could the layering be better when both cities have lots of buildings from every era over the last 120+ years? I might add that you can't see the historic high rises of either city in most skyline shots. I agree on some of your points but not all of it.
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