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Old August 9th, 2013, 10:20 AM   #381
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Old August 9th, 2013, 10:23 AM   #382
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This is quality? Seriously? And egg shaped structure, a wannabe glass pyramid, a black box, a midrise with cross-hatch pattern? Some fugly lowrise scattered throughout the area? What's left to be constructed? A ***** shaped tower?

London has neither the 'quality' (!) nor the quantity or height to be part of a skyline discussion, as of now. Lets see what else they can bring by 2025
Don't exaggerate. London's skyscrapers aren't so bad.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 10:52 AM   #383
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Don't exaggerate. London's skyscrapers aren't so bad.
Well, beautiful and ugliness depends on perspective. Too much diversity can ruin a skyline. What Londoner may behold as heavenly might seem very tacky and kitschy to others. And most of those bizarre looking structures of London don't qualify as skyscrapers either (<200 meters). Perhaps he was indirectly trying to subdue the hysteria regarding London's 'elegant architecture', of which many of us here are unable to comprehend what the fuss is all about?
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Old August 9th, 2013, 10:57 AM   #384
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You better visit the Manila Projects and Construction and see for yourself.Dont look down on us.we know what is beautiful and tacky.
I have kept up to date and I do look at the projects as I was interested in it's boom after I visited.

There are some lots of great projects. As I did state before, however you seem to have ignored that bit, but there are also hundreds of turds aswell.

This does not compliment the skyline and makes a mockery of some of the fantastic towers being built. It's that simple.

Building 2 fantastic towers when it's surrounded by half a dozen concrete commie blocks does not equal a world class skyline.

It stinks of doing things to quick and on the cheap.That's the reality.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 11:04 AM   #385
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Well, beautiful and ugliness depends on perspective. Too much diversity can ruin a skyline. What Londoner may behold as heavenly might seem very tacky and kitschy to others. And most of those bizarre looking structures of London don't qualify as skyscrapers either (<200 meters). Perhaps he was indirectly trying to subdue the hysteria regarding London's 'elegant architecture', of which many of us here are unable to comprehend what's the fuss all about?
You're replies just stink of being a troll. Have you nothing better to do??
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Old August 9th, 2013, 02:03 PM   #386
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Well, beautiful and ugliness depends on perspective. Too much diversity can ruin a skyline. What Londoner may behold as heavenly might seem very tacky and kitschy to others. And most of those bizarre looking structures of London don't qualify as skyscrapers either (<200 meters). Perhaps he was indirectly trying to subdue the hysteria regarding London's 'elegant architecture', of which many of us here are unable to comprehend what the fuss is all about?
any troll to give a +1 to this comment ?

You can also read this quote with a snobish accent ...
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Old August 9th, 2013, 06:58 PM   #387
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Who has it with the 200 m on Skyscrapercity actually thought? In our latitudes and (CTBUH) are 150 m/492 ft a measure of skyscrapers.

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Old August 9th, 2013, 06:59 PM   #388
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Building 2 fantastic towers when it's surrounded by half a dozen concrete commie blocks does not equal a world class skyline.
YES I agree, Many of our buildings are concrete (mainly because our country in situated in a major earthquake zone).
But it's not ugly at all, it gives diversity and variety as well, in mixture with steel and glass buildings.

but "commie blocks"?
Our buildings although concrete, has a lot more character than dull blocks.
Yes, some of these buildings are ugly. But not as ugly as commie blocks IMO.

Cmon', I'm pretty sure you are just exaggerating.


If you still disagree, just calling them "Blocks" is fair enough. Just not "commie", coz we are not communist.
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I have kept up to date and I do look at the projects as I was interested in it's boom after I visited.

There are some lots of great projects. As I did state before, however you seem to have ignored that bit, but there are also hundreds of turds aswell.

This does not compliment the skyline and makes a mockery of some of the fantastic towers being built. It's that simple.

Building 2 fantastic towers when it's surrounded by half a dozen concrete commie blocks does not equal a world class skyline.

It stinks of doing things to quick and on the cheap.That's the reality.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 08:47 PM   #390
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This is quality? Seriously? And egg shaped structure, a wannabe glass pyramid, a black box, a midrise with cross-hatch pattern? Some fugly lowrise scattered throughout the area? What's left to be constructed? A ***** shaped tower?

London has neither the 'quality' (!) nor the quantity or height to be part of a skyline discussion, as of now. Lets see what else they can bring by 2025
Well done. You have managed to describe buildings by their shapes. A 4 year old could do that.
I could say exactly the same for any city 'oh look at those box shaped buidlings, haha look at that white building'.
To pick one building as an example the so called 'egg shaped' building. The Gherkin. It has won many awards including I do believe the best new building in the world.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 08:59 PM   #391
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It seems to me this thread is just going around in circles when best is what anybody wants it to be aside from numbers or figures you can actually count. Aside from actual numbers (height and quantity), it's just personal taste and based on what certain cities have on the drawing board now and projecting to what the skyline will be like in 2025, and even then, it depends on how much weight an individual wants to give to either height, quantity, or architectural design. In all actually, we won't know until we get threre. I'll probably be dead by then anyway.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 11:26 PM   #392
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Well done. You have managed to describe buildings by their shapes. A 4 year old could do that.
I could say exactly the same for any city 'oh look at those box shaped buidlings, haha look at that white building'.
To pick one building as an example the so called 'egg shaped' building. The Gherkin. It has won many awards including I do believe the best new building in the world.
Few people apart from the British in this thread agree that London has a great skyline. The ugly lowrises surrounding the central complex made the skyline appear lackadaisical and lifeless; there is just no balance of height. By 2025 the change might be dramatic because London has very few skyscrapers as of now, but it will still find itself dwarfed in every category by its competitors in 2025 (if you consider skyscraper construction as a competition) - height, quantity, density and architecture (of 200m+ buildings only).

Even certain particular areas of the following cities will have more impressive skyline than London's- Shenzhen's Futian district, Guanzhou's Zhuijiang CBD, Shanghai's Puxi, Tianjin's Binhai CBD, Manila's Makati CBD. All these areas have very few/no ugly residential highrises (as some would like to say) according to their skyline images (not the skyline of the 'whole' city, just those particular areas). The skylines of these areas alone will be much bigger than London's entire skyline by 2025. Thus it's not so hard to perceive that London has a lot of catch up to do, and the pace is inadequate. In 2025, the aforementioned CBDs will have enough good looking structures which will overshadow the fewer ugly ones (if there's any present right now). So the quality crisis will become a null point.

Considering all the facts and information available, and assessing the current situation, it can be affirmed that London's skyline won't be amongst the best in the world (not in top 25, to say the least).
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Old August 9th, 2013, 11:43 PM   #393
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I must say I do like this rendering though and the configuration of the skyline. If all of this actually gets built in the next 12 years, who is to say where London will stack up amongst the other great skylines of the world that took decades to evolve? I think the problem for London though is that fact that other skylines are not just standing still.

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Wow, awesome rendering! London future skyline will look fantastic !
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Wow, awesome rendering! London future skyline will look fantastic !
Yes, I like that rendering a lot. I love the placement of the buildings and the configuration of the skyline. Considering Miami went from having almost no skyline in the 20th century to having what is statistically the 3rd largest skyline in the U.S. in the 21st century, who can really say what London will be able achieve, but other skylines are not standing still, and London has a lot of ground to make up. Just when I thought New York didn't have any more room to build any more skyscrapers, they managed to find some.
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Which is this beautiful tower?
Yes, I like that one too. It's one of the few of London's newer towers so far that I like.
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LONDON | One Blackfriars | 163m | 52 fl | U/C .

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Londoners always argue about QUALITY.

isn't it so easy for a skyline to be called "with Quality" when you only have 5-10 of them tall buildings, eh?
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Shanghai, New York, Shenzhen, Manila, Toronto, Hong Kong, Bangkok, Mumbai, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Tianjin, Tokyo.
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5/10 highrises don't create a skyline. Quantity is not the most important factor, but a city must have at least a sizeable amount of skyscrapers to make a plausible argument for it.

Why didn't London have skyscrapers in the first place like New York or Chicago? Is it because UK is poorer than USA? That doesn't seem the case. Whatever, any city with moderate GDP can construct 20 highrises of decent quality within a compact complex. That doesn't mean it's become a skyline. New York is ahead of Shenzhen because it has quantity, and most of the buildings look good. London's name can't be spoken alongside New York or American cities in this department. If Shenzhen skyline is full of ugly highrises, then London doesn't have much of a skyline, because it's full of lowrise buildings which don't contribute to the skyline at all.

(5/6 buildings don't matter much when you're talking about a skyline as a whole)
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Few people apart from the British in this thread agree that London has a great skyline. The ugly lowrises surrounding the central complex made the skyline appear lackadaisical and lifeless; there is just no balance of height. By 2025 the change might be dramatic because London has very few skyscrapers as of now, but it will still find itself dwarfed in every category by its competitors in 2025 (if you consider skyscraper construction as a competition) - height, quantity, density and architecture (of 200m+ buildings only).

Even certain particular areas of the following cities will have more impressive skyline than London's- Shenzhen's Futian district, Guanzhou's Zhuijiang CBD, Shanghai's Puxi, Tianjin's Binhai CBD, Manila's Makati CBD. All these areas have very few/no ugly residential highrises (as some would like to say) according to their skyline images (not the skyline of the 'whole' city, just those particular areas). The skylines of these areas alone will be much bigger than London's entire skyline by 2025. Thus it's not so hard to perceive that London has a lot of catch up to do, and the pace is inadequate. In 2025, the aforementioned CBDs will have enough good looking structures which will overshadow the fewer ugly ones (if there's any present right now). So the quality crisis will become a null point.

Considering all the facts and information available, and assessing the current situation, it can be affirmed that London's skyline won't be amongst the best in the world (not in top 25, to say the least).
I am not denying anything you have said...
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