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Old July 12th, 2013, 06:27 PM   #101
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That was 35 buildings either under construction or planned over 150 meters. That is not including the buildings already constructed.

Once again you are citing the fallacy that numbers alone make a skyline. They do not. I'm not going to bother questioning your logic behind what you consider to be "Tacky", as this is subjective and everyone has their own opinions. That's fine. I really hope London never looks like Bangkok, Shenzhen and Guangzhou because that would be going backwards in my opinion. London already has a far more attractive skyline using the the definition that I mentioned earlier.

London being a skyscraper city or not is your opinion, it certainly isn't fact. London for me is a skyscraper city, and it will get better and better with the number of proposals in the table. European cities have not been known for their skyscrapers, but then other than Hong Kong and Tokyo neither were Asian cities until recently. In fact I would even argue your first point, that European cities have "never" been famous for their highrises. Frankfurt is famous for this very reason.

I hope you get over the delusion that numbers alone are what make a skyline. You really are going to miss out on some great skylines in cities all around the world if you hold onto this view.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 06:37 PM   #102
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But you are the one who presented the projects list and gave numbers as if we are supposed to be impressed by numbers.

This is an interesting list of cities with height in meters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...st_skyscrapers
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Old July 12th, 2013, 06:43 PM   #103
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Then London should go backwards. Stop being biased towards a city just because it's got a supertall and a few highrises under construction recently. London is an ordinary city in skyline department. It has neither the quality nor the quantity to be relevant in this thread. These photos of Guangzhou are 3 years old, show me better pics of present London skyline if you can.

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Old July 12th, 2013, 06:57 PM   #104
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Impressive, however any city can be made to look good using quality lighting.
It is only in daylight that their true character can be judged. IMO
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Old July 12th, 2013, 07:03 PM   #105
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But you are the one who presented the projects list and gave numbers as if we are supposed to be impressed by numbers.

This is an interesting list of cities with height in meters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...st_skyscrapers
I gave him the list as he clearly hasn't got a clue what he is arguing against.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 07:10 PM   #106
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Then London should go backwards. Stop being biased towards a city just because it's got a supertall and a few highrises under construction recently. London is an ordinary city in skyline department. It has neither the quality nor the quantity to be relevant in this thread. These photos of Guangzhou are 3 years old, show me better pics of present London skyline if you can.


I'm not being biased towards London. You fail to read and understand anything I write. None of those photos you posted show the city skyline. They show the cityscape which is something entirely different. There is no skyline in those photos!

What you mean to say is, London is ordinary in the highrise cityscape department. And in that area I would agree with you. There isn't the density there yet. But skyline wise London is far more attractive than dosens of Asian cities with their high rise forests.

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Old July 12th, 2013, 07:21 PM   #107
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Santiago Chile is a city worth watching skyline wise ... the "Sanhattan" district of the city will radically transform the skyline over the next decade or so.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 07:33 PM   #108
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But you are the one who presented the projects list and gave numbers as if we are supposed to be impressed by numbers.

This is an interesting list of cities with height in meters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...st_skyscrapers
Pity that list is outdated. I need to update the New York figures.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 07:35 PM   #109
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There isn't the density there yet. But skyline wise London is far more attractive than dosens of Asian cities with their high rise forests.

Now that is a skyline. Know the difference.
I'm sorry, but I truly do not like the London skyline, and I'm being kind compared to what I've said about it privately. The Miami skyline might be boring, but there's not a single building in London that I would like to see in Miami.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 08:21 PM   #110
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London skyline is decent.. comparable with other smaller Canadian and Australian skylines like Montreal, Edmonton, Perth.. etc..
but IMO, not enough for the world's top 10.. San Francisco, Singapore, Calgary and Seattle are the "better smaller skylines" that has the chance to sneak in my top 10. But I'm not sure how much projects are in line for these cities..


I'm surprised with Guangzhou , would be interesting to see how it would look like in 2025.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 08:47 PM   #111
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While many Asian and Middle Eastern cities have hugely tall skyscrapers, they always seem to be built in a vacuum. There's hardly any dialog or interchange between neighboring buildings because every tower is some architect's grand master ego-trip statement and the skylines of these cities, Shanghai and Dubai in particular, never form a cohesive feel.

Hong Kong is one of the rare exceptions to this rule though. European and North American and even some of the more aggressive Latin American skylines seem more well thought out than mainland China's or the Middle East.

Perhaps because of their white hot growth rates these cities don't really have the luxury of patience and forethought as to how their skylines look, but I think that down the road a bit they may come to regret many of the architectural decisions they made in creating the eventually unsatisfying skylines that they'll be stuck with.
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I'm not being biased towards London. You fail to read and understand anything I write. None of those photos you posted show the city skyline. They show the cityscape which is something entirely different. There is no skyline in those photos!

What you mean to say is, London is ordinary in the highrise cityscape department. And in that area I would agree with you. There isn't the density there yet. But skyline wise London is far more attractive than dosens of Asian cities with their high rise forests.

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You seriously call this a skyline? These midget 120 meter buildings of London won't even be visible in Guangzhou. You've lost creditability by comparing Guangzhou with a 3rd-tier skyline like that of London's.

Here are some photos of Dhaka skyline. My hometown Dhaka is pretty dense too, but I wouldn't call it a skyline and compare it with Guangzhou.

Kawran Bazar area


Banani area


Motijheel Area
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Clustering up a few highries packed together doesn't make a good skyline. There has to be certain height and quality present in buildings to create an aesthetic view of skyline. And London has none of that. This is why it will not make it to the top 20 skylines by 2025.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 09:14 PM   #113
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I'm not being biased towards London. You fail to read and understand anything I write. None of those photos you posted show the city skyline. They show the cityscape which is something entirely different. There is no skyline in those photos!

What you mean to say is, London is ordinary in the highrise cityscape department. And in that area I would agree with you. There isn't the density there yet. But skyline wise London is far more attractive than dosens of Asian cities with their high rise forests.

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It is. But definitely not in top 10.
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London skyline is decent.. comparable with other smaller Canadian and Australian skylines like Montreal, Edmonton, Perth.. etc..
but IMO, not enough for the world's top 10.. San Francisco, Singapore, Calgary and Seattle are the "better smaller skylines" that has the chance to sneak in my top 10. But I'm not sure how much projects are in line for these cities..


I'm surprised with Guangzhou , would be interesting to see how it would look like in 2025.
Shenzen is also good:

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Since the name of the thread is Best Skylines and not Biggest Skylines...

by 2025 and 2050
1. Hong Kong
2. New York
3. Chicago

I can't even finish this list because my favorite skylines are Frankfurt, Toronto, Los Angeles, Sydney, London, Paris, etc, and I don't think they will change much.

I just think most of the buildings in cities like Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Dubai look like they were designed by children. Shanghai somehow manages to look 1000x more fake than Las Vegas, that is supposed to be fake.
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Any number of Chinese cities could make it on this list, but I think NYC is pretty much unbeatable for #1.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 11:14 PM   #117
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This was posted on SSP a while back.

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I pulled together another montage. I'm sure I missed some projects, but I tried to be as comprehensive as possible. I also used a little creative freedom on projects such as 225 West 57th Street and the Grand Central Tower. I should mention I'm working on another one for Brooklyn - coming soon!

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Any number of Chinese cities could make it on this list, but I think NYC is pretty much unbeatable for #1.
Hong Kong and Shanghai can contest NYC. This is arguable, unlike London being in top 10.

I think Hong Kong already has a better skyline. NYC has gorgeous historical buildings, but Hong Kong does have a better natural setting (mountains). It looks more futuristic too.

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Hong Kong does beat NYC in numbers too
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I can't even finish this list because my favorite skylines are Frankfurt, Toronto, Los Angeles, Sydney, London, Paris, etc, and I don't think they will change much.
Toronto will not be left behind. So IMO, it is and will still be part of world's top 10.

There is an ongoing construction boom in the city (The biggest in N.America). The number of buildings could almost double in a matter of time.
take a peak at this thread.
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Toronto will not be left behind. So IMO, it is and will still be part of world's top 10.

There is an ongoing construction boom in the city (The biggest in N.America). The number of buildings could almost double in a matter of time.
take a peak at this thread.
Toronto for the top 10 by 2025 is quite realistic. Miami could crack the top 20 on a few people's list with what's planned and the momentum we have going down here.
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