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Old March 22nd, 2014, 10:02 PM   #1381
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Shenzhen's abuttment right next to the rural Hong Kong border makes for a very epic landscape:


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Old March 22nd, 2014, 10:19 PM   #1382
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I'm getting pretty sick of people raving about these countless Chinese cities.

Few care about your rude, crowded, polluted, authoritarian cities of 782 zillion NOT named Shanghai, Beijing, or Hong Kong.

... and, yes, I am aware this *is* a website where people love buildings/skyscrapers.
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 10:25 PM   #1383
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I'm getting pretty sick of people raving about these countless Chinese cities.

Few care about your rude, crowded, polluted, authoritarian cities of 782 zillion NOT named Shanghai, Beijing, or Hong Kong.

... and, yes, I am aware this *is* a website where people love buildings/skyscrapers.
Agreed, I like Shanghai, Hong Kong etc. but some of the others just try too hard and it gets kind of old.
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 10:55 PM   #1384
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1. New York City
2. Dubai
3. Hong Kong.



then the rest.

Most of the far east super skylines are just disjointed and plain ugly imo. Shanghai itself looks highly overrated in daytime without over done nightly neon show.

Shanghai, Shenzhen are least impressive. Just too redundant mundane same glassy towers. Zero variety, diversity and attractiveness. Just going supertall and looking too stale.

Hong Kong is the only impressive skyline city in far east and will remain so.

Its really NYC vs Dubai for diversity, height, variety in peaks.

Every other chinese city is just playing catch up.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 01:25 AM   #1385
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erm, have you actually visited those cities recently guys??
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 02:41 AM   #1386
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Shanghai and Shenzhen have some of the most diverse skylines out there imo

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Shenzhen - does look more samey but it's got alot of diversity too tbh:


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my personal fave would be Guangzhou though

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Old March 23rd, 2014, 02:42 AM   #1387
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and Shenzhen is not so much about skyline but showcase buildings, most of which you would never have heard of:









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Old March 23rd, 2014, 04:27 AM   #1388
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Imo Shanghai and Shenzhen already reached 2025 before others...
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 05:06 AM   #1389
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São Paulo - Brazil, have any chance to get on that list?
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 06:02 AM   #1390
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Top 5 in 2025
1. Shenzhen
2. New York
3. Shanghai
4. Hong Kong
5. Mumbai
I don't know if I'd put Mumbai ahead of Chicago.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 06:26 AM   #1391
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1. New York City
2. Dubai
3. Hong Kong.



then the rest.

Most of the far east super skylines are just disjointed and plain ugly imo. Shanghai itself looks highly overrated in daytime without over done nightly neon show.

Shanghai, Shenzhen are least impressive. Just too redundant mundane same glassy towers. Zero variety, diversity and attractiveness. Just going supertall and looking too stale.

Hong Kong is the only impressive skyline city in far east and will remain so.

Its really NYC vs Dubai for diversity, height, variety in peaks.

Every other chinese city is just playing catch up.
Those who say Shenzhen is ugly are clearly haters. They don't know anything about it. let me show you what shenzhen looks like





Shenzhen isn't impressive? It has mountains and beaches and skyscrapers






The skyline is full of glassy buildings only?









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You are a troll sir. Shenzhen is anything but ugly
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 07:28 AM   #1392
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I don't know if I'd put Mumbai ahead of Chicago.
It's not just Mumbai that I've put ahead of it. Chicago might squeak into my top 10 in 2025, but could just as easily be down in 12-13th. Chicago's going to need a massive building boom to hold its position. I hope it can, but the current slate of proposals would leave me to believe that it won't.

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Its really NYC vs Dubai for diversity, height, variety in peaks.
Dubai has height, but it's never struck me as skyline with lots of diversity. Practically every skyline in Canada, the US, and Australia would beat Dubai by that count.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 07:59 AM   #1393
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It's not just Mumbai that I've put ahead of it. Chicago might squeak into my top 10 in 2025, but could just as easily be down in 12-13th. Chicago's going to need a massive building boom to hold its position. I hope it can, but the current slate of proposals would leave me to believe that it won't.

I always wonder how long the Asian building boom can last though, something like that can't go on for too much longer. Plus I think North America is overdue for a boom (Outside of NYC and maybe Miami of course)

Mumbai may have a few Chicago sized skyscrapers under construction but has a long way to go before completely catching up to it.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 08:06 AM   #1394
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Shenzhen's abuttment right next to the rural Hong Kong border makes for a very epic landscape:
they're just plain.. I don't know why people rank these skylines in their top 5... because they have quantity??> I see NO quality...
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 08:15 AM   #1395
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they're just plain.. I don't know why people rank these skylines in their top 5... because they have quantity??> I see NO quality...
check all the photos on this page before making an ignorant remark
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 08:19 AM   #1396
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I always wonder how long the Asian building boom can last though, something like that can't go on for too much longer. Plus I think North America is overdue for a boom (Outside of NYC and maybe Miami of course)

Mumbai may have a few Chicago sized skyscrapers under construction but has a long way to go before completely catching up to it.


Given the current economy development Of Asia and USA, i would see more into Asia rather than in US and this explain the possiblities of Chicago being ruled out of top 5 in 2025
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 08:23 AM   #1397
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Dubai has height, but it's never struck me as skyline with lots of diversity. Practically every skyline in Canada, the US, and Australia would beat Dubai by that count.
Dubai is all about supertalls...it's astonishing how empty the looks despite having so many 200m+ buildings...but I still like its skyline
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 08:28 AM   #1398
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Agree. Dubai has lots over 150m, but surprisingly little in the 50-150m range. It will always look a bit contrived till there's more balance. This might put things into perspective:

# of buildings 50-150m
New York 3052
Toronto 1133
Chicago 819
Dubai 276

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I always wonder how long the Asian building boom can last though, something like that can't go on for too much longer. Plus I think North America is overdue for a boom (Outside of NYC and maybe Miami of course)

Mumbai may have a few Chicago sized skyscrapers under construction but has a long way to go before completely catching up to it.
What we're witnessing in Asia isn't a normal building cycle that one sees in the developed world, but a result of an entire region that's industrializing, becoming more urban, and growing wealthier.

With that in mind, the vast majority of Asia is at the beginning of a decades long building boom not something that will go on for a few years, end, then start up again. When the dust settles a few decades from now there might only be 3-4 skylines from north America in the top 30. The rest will all be Asian.

Regarding Mumbai, perhaps you should take a closer look at what's under construction there and what's proposed. I agree that they're miles behind Chicago today, but they could easily pull even before the decade is out. That's how fast that city is growing.

Let's not forget, Mumbai is a city twice the size of Chicago growing 9-10 times faster and is the NY of a nation of 1.4 billion people. Mumbai is going to absolutely dwarf every other city in the western world except for New York.
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they're just plain.. I don't know why people rank these skylines in their top 5... because they have quantity??> I see NO quality...
That last remark makes me suspect you're judging based on what exists today. This thread is about what will exist 11 years from now. Looking at what exist today isn't going to give you the information you need. One also needs to look over proposals and buildings under construction to arrive at a conclusion.

This isn't a 'Best Skyline in 2014' thread.
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Agree spot on

The growing income of Asian countries resulted in growing of middle income or nouveau riche, which causing more and more demand for luxury residences, tall buildings and offices. The number of millionaire grows everyday and more and more people moving from the rural to the cities.

What you see in shenzhen, mumbai, jakarta, etc are just the beginning of their skyline and from now to the next 11 years, we will see the real growth and transformation of these cities. These real growth will supported by the billions of population demand which we will never see in any american cities before. If i were to give an example, i would say these cities in the development stage of USA cities in 1970s.

However not all asian cities will be like them. Some cities like Singapore, Hongkong and Tokyo has probably reached their peak economy, so i would not see much changes for them. These developed cities will probably end up like chicago or other american cities.
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