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Old July 2nd, 2013, 09:17 PM   #1
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NEW YORK | 68 Trinity Place | 152m | 499ft | 44 fl | Demo



Design by Pelli Clark Pelli

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Trinity Church Solicits Designs for Condo Tower



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Trinity Church, the owner of $2 billion of real estate spread out over 14 acres in lower Manhattan, is continuing to pursue plans to redevelop its ministry offices behind the church and build a 25-story condo tower on top of them. In a move that's sure to further alienate parishioners who argue that the church spends too little of its time and money on its stated mission of philanthropy and too much on real estate dealings, Trinity has solicited designs from two architecture firms, COOK+FOX and Pelli Clarke Pelli, for the new building, which would cost $35 million. The church's vestry will decide in a meeting on July 24 whether or not move forward with the project.

The designs from COOK+FOX feature the same "biophilic" approach that the firm has favored as of late, integrating a lot of planted things into the facade as well as rooftop gardens. The facade would be made of glass and stone, with the six-story ministry building at the base constructed primarily out of glass to give it an open and welcoming feel. Pelli Clarke Pelli's design also features a glass base for the ministry, with the residential section of the tower made out of glass and metal.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 05:38 PM   #2
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I just finished playing 'The Last of Us' for PS3. That Cook & Fox tower overrun by foliage would fit right in to a post apocalyptic, zombie infested world.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 06:48 PM   #3
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Seems to complement the Stock Exchange building next to it.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 11:00 PM   #4
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Looks like salad that I ate for lunch :P
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Old July 25th, 2013, 09:57 PM   #5
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Pelli Clarke Pelli to Design New 296,000 SF Trinity Church Tower
http://commercialobserver.com/2013/0...-church-tower/

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Pelli Clarke Pelli beat out a competing bid from Cook/Fox to design the space.
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Trinity Church has decided to knock down its parish office building at 68-74 Trinity Place to make way for a 296,000-square-feet mixed-use tower to be designed by Pelli Clarke Pelli.


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The new structure will include a six or seven-story base dedicated to mission activities and related offices, topped by a 25-story residential tower.
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The next step in the process is the selection of a developer, said Trinity Real Estate President Jason Pizer, who anticipates a groundbreaking in the fall of 2014 and a completion in 2017.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 10:13 PM   #6
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They are going to pull down this building?

https://maps.google.no/maps?q=new+yo...1.83,,0,-47.74

The building in the middle behind the church:

https://www.google.no/search?client=...ml%3B359%3B479

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Old July 26th, 2013, 06:21 PM   #7
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They are going to pull down this building?

https://maps.google.no/maps?q=new+yo...1.83,,0,-47.74

The building in the middle behind the church:

https://www.google.no/search?client=...ml%3B359%3B479


Oh God no, please god no! I love that building! I was thinking this building was offensive before, but if it replaces THAT, no just no.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 06:45 PM   #8
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Yep, kiss it goodbye...


IMG_8940 by srambus, on Flickr
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Old July 26th, 2013, 06:46 PM   #9
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Here is a better picture of it (it's the building with the dark crown to the left):


https://ssl.panoramio.com/photo/82443460

I simply can't believe they are going to demolish it.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 07:05 PM   #10
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They might as well tear down the church and put up an office building there while they're at it.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 07:06 PM   #11
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Looking at Pelli's drawings, it seems likely that this will be a highrise exceeding 350 ft.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 08:01 PM   #12
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Honestly the razing of THIS will not be missed. There are TONS of buildings like it in Manhattan. A dime a dozen.

This is one wealthy parish!! below is a link that discusses the assets this church owns.

April, 2013 - Trinity’s real estate now among “most valuable” in NYC
http://therealdeal.com/blog/2013/04/...luable-in-nyc/

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the value of the church’s assets, which are estimated to be worth more than $2 billion and include a major portfolio of office buildings and mixed-use residential developments, the New York Times reported.

The church controls 14 acres of Manhattan property, the bulk of which is in the trendy Hudson Square neighborhood, where Trinity’s real estate division recently pushed for an upzoning. The value of its assets will likely continue to grow thanks to the recent rezoning, which provided for larger residential developments, real estate experts said.

“The Trinity Church properties are now among the most valuable in all of New York City, because they are sitting on the edge of the hottest neighborhoods in the city — Soho, Tribeca and Greenwich Village,” said Mitchell Moss, a professor of urban policy and planning at New York University. “Trinity has been either very wise or very prudent, but they have let the market mature around them, and now they are ready to take advantage of it.”

The church reported revenue from real estate investments in excess of $158 million in 2011, most of which was plowed back into operations and maintenance, according to the most recent financial statements available. The church spent close to $6 million on the maintenance of its most historic real estate assets, such as the main church building, St. Paul’s Chapel and a number of cemeteries, that same year.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 08:13 PM   #13
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The new building is just screaming for attention. No semblance of any gothic theme that might continue the trend presented by its surroundings.
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I would've been fine with Cook+Fox's design but Pelli's is just a wavy glass box... though it's taller and modern i don't think it's worthy of replacing that pre-war building. Cook+Fox's design has a facade that compliments the area and integrates the greenery at street level into the tower.


http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=6767
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Old July 26th, 2013, 09:54 PM   #15
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Oh, Gosh, I can't believe it happens!
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That's a lovely building. Shame on them for tearing it down.
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That's a lovely building. Shame on them for tearing it down.
In the USA is it worth to protest for a building, like this, to do not demolish it? I think, you would try it. I hope finally this won't be demolished.
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This is one wealthy parish!! below is a link that discusses the assets this church owns.
And yet they're still tax exempt...

Anyway, I agree with the sentiment about this news. Although I would have preferred the other design with the greenery, the new tower in and of itself is a perfectly serviceable upscale condo. It would look great along Wishire Corridor in LA.

But I would much rather see the old building preserved, and a new location found for the Pelli tower. There are plenty of genuinely crummy buildings that could be razed instead, are there not?
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Old July 27th, 2013, 05:53 AM   #19
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I would've been fine with Cook+Fox's design but Pelli's is just a wavy glass box... though it's taller and modern i don't think it's worthy of replacing that pre-war building. Cook+Fox's design has a facade that compliments the area and integrates the greenery at street level into the tower.


http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=6767

The Pelli Clark Pelli design has a fairly nice street level appeal:


http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/130729904
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Money above anything.They didn't learn the lesson with Singer Building and Penn Station.
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