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Old August 19th, 2014, 08:54 AM   #41
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Cook+Fox proposal is billions times better than Pelli's.
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Old August 19th, 2014, 10:28 AM   #42
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This is a total fu**n joke that NYC is letting some stupid investors to tear down such a beautiful gem.
This building should be alread protected many years ago.

NYC is still forgetting that in many cases this is already a complete city with a little bit different responsibilities than 100 years ago. Turbocapitalism times are gone, and in a city with such a reach history there should be other priorities than earning moneyz at all costs.

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Old August 19th, 2014, 10:37 AM   #43
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A beautiful gem that nobody paid attention to before, nor will remember in five years.
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Old August 19th, 2014, 08:59 PM   #44
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This is a total fu**n joke that NYC is letting some stupid investors to tear down such a beautiful gem.
This building should be alread protected many years ago.

NYC is still forgetting that in many cases this is already a complete city with a little bit different responsibilities than 100 years ago. Turbocapitalism times are gone, and in a city with such a reach history there should be other priorities than earning moneyz at all costs.

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The ridiculously obscene thing is that this is the project of a real estate empire of the largest Episcopal dioceses in the US... not just some bigwig private developer. The Trinity Church fueling a project for its ego and for the highest of the 1%. The last word in your post is the one thing this kind of project isn't about, in a darkly humorous way.
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Old September 2nd, 2014, 03:36 PM   #45
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Permits Filed: 68 Trinity Place Gets Height Increase, Will Stand 44 Stories Tall



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The first permits are up for a new 44-story mixed-use tower at 68 Trinity Place, which has apparently seen a height increase since Pelli Clarke Pelli was chosen to design, last July.

Trinity Church will occupy 93,180 square feet on the first seven floors, while 111 residences will split 157,185 square feet on upper levels. The tower’s total scope will measure 250,995 square feet, and it will stand 499 feet tall. The 42nd and 43rd floors will each have one penthouse residence.

Pelli Clarke Pelli’s scheme placed a 25-story tower atop a seven-story base, so the residential component has apparently stretched skinner and taller. This would not be unexpected given the vertical progression of other projects in the neighborhood, many of which will soar well over 500 feet.

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Old September 2nd, 2014, 04:24 PM   #46
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Community board slams Trinity’s FiDi residential tower

Church and major property owner says it will consider neighbors' concerns

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2013/09/...dential-tower/

One of the few times when I'm 100% against the development and 100% on the community board's side. This demolition/proposal is an insult to one of the world's most iconic urban spaces.
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Old September 2nd, 2014, 05:42 PM   #47
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A beautiful gem that nobody paid attention to before, nor will remember in five years.
...Very often we care about things when we have lost them...
Seems like an evidence that Pelli's design is stupid and hideous for the location!
Hundred percent uninspired and out of place as is the Goldman Saks building in Jersey city and the planned(?)Penn something shit in midtown.
Sorry but i am VERY angry about such a disrespect in such a beautiful part of New York and also because Cook and Fox proposal was WAY better!
....BTW,the WFC designed by the same Pelli is,for me, a pure masterpiece..
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Old September 22nd, 2014, 04:22 AM   #48
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Well, the higher the better. I hope a good project here.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 08:16 PM   #49
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From Curbed today, sounds like this tower is just the beginning of a Trinity development dynasty:

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Three hundred years ago in the most unknowingly profitable real estate bestowal ever, the Financial District's Trinity Church was granted some 215 acres of downtown property by Britain's Queen Anne. Now, the church is looking to expand on the land that's worth some $2 billion by, for the first time, developing residential properties. The idea isn't a new one; the church was a major player in the 2013 rezoning of Hudson Square that will allow the institution to convert some of its 5.5 million-square-feet of office space in the neighborhood into residential. Crain's reports that the church's property arm, Trinity Real Estate, is now looking into developing up to four luxury towers in the neighborhood, in addition to a mixed-use tower at the site of the church's downtown property.

The church will soon begin seeking a partner for a planned 430-foot-tall, 300,000-square-foot residential building in Hudson Square on a lot between Canal, Varick, and Grand streets and Sixth Avenue that will have a 444-seat public school at its base. Farther down the pipeline, Crain's reports Trinity is also looking into developing 4 Hudson Square, a 1 million-square-foot development site between Hudson, Varick, Spring, and Vandam streets that can likely give rise to one residential and one office tower. The church hasn't elaborated further on the other towers they plan to bring to Hudson Square.
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It seems the church is more immediately focused on selecting a partner to help rebuild its Trinity Place property. The building will be converted into a 44-story Pelli Clarke Pelli-designed tower, a look that beat-out COOKFOX's biophilic plan for the space last July.
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Interior demolition is already underway at the Trinity Place tower. Workers were removing a few cart loads of material to the container.
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Old September 27th, 2015, 03:52 AM   #52
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Old September 28th, 2015, 11:05 PM   #53
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Can't cringe hard enough at this.
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Old September 29th, 2015, 05:51 AM   #54
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This is a ******* crime.
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This is a total fu**n joke that NYC is letting some stupid investors to tear down such a beautiful gem.
This building should be alread protected many years ago.

NYC is still forgetting that in many cases this is already a complete city with a little bit different responsibilities than 100 years ago. Turbocapitalism times are gone, and in a city with such a reach history there should be other priorities than earning moneyz at all costs.

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Mon, mon, That's NY for you! I can't believe you expected some kind of government intervention into this. You should know better now how the system works. Not every old building is going to be considered a landmark when the real estate industry has so much power.

Turbo/Hyper Capitalism is alive and well and profit is still King in NY. The church is out to make a buck for its survival. though A pretty greedy and wanton church if you ask me.. NY is still a sort of Wild West. Buildings go up everywhere without much oversight into how they look. Preservation is generally a lessor priority than keeping the real estate economy rolling. So your wrong, NY is still a city with the dollar signs come first over those other priorities you mentioned.

However, yes, NY should be highly criticized for not having an architectural review. This is a shameful city when it comes to preserving its old buildings overall, despite land marking. However, should we expect much better from a city that demolished Penn Station and was about to demolish Grand Central but for the help of Jackie? should we expect much from a city that allowed the Drake to get demolished for a mile high concrete prison for oligarchs?

Most developers are not interested in preserving it appears, however that is to be expected when your running a company dedicated on making money and competing in a shark pool. We need them to be better but they are what they are. HOWEVER, the city leaders should be admonished for not having a design review that doesn't let dreck get built and beauties get torn down

In London, they have this, and that keeps the city beautiful there. Less malarkey gets built and fewer gems torn down. NY needs such a review process.

That said, in this case, I do like the design and consider it a worthy replacement. Coincidentally, It's just the kind of tower design that i like but that is often not the way things go. thankfully they picked a good architect this time around..

So start chillin dude . You'll be seeing a lot more of this skalleywag behavior and if you want to not lose your hair, you better start relaxing mon. Have a rum and enjoy the show

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Imo this building was the least good looking of all the buildings around Trinity Church. It clearly wasn't well maintained.
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It does not appear to be shrinking yet...
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