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Old July 7th, 2013, 06:30 PM   #41
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There are three different tramway networks at Barcelona.

-Trambaix.



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It consists of three lines from Plaša Francesc MaciÓ to the southern suburbs of CornellÓ (T1), Sant Joan DespÝ (T2) and Sant Feliu de Llobregat (T3).
It connects with metro L3 at Maria Cristina, Palau Reial and Zona UniversitÓria stops.
It also connects with metro L5 at CornellÓ Centre stop, where it connects as well with the R1 and R4 lines of the Rodalies/CercanÝas Renfe commuter train service.

In the future it will connect with metro L5 at Ernest Lluch stop, and with L9 and L10 at Zona UniversitÓria stop.

A few images of the Trambaix.

Francesc MaciÓ, terminus for T1, T2, and T3 lines:



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A tram on a T3 service near Walden stop:



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I didn't see any trams in Barcelona.
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-Trambes˛s.



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It consists on three more lines, to the northern suburbs (Sant AdriÓ de Bes˛s and Badalona).

One of them (T4), starting at Ciutadella-Vila OlÝmpica near the beach and the zoo, and running through Marina and Gl˛ries till Selva de Mar and Estaciˇ de Sant AdriÓ.
It connects with the metro L4 at Ciutadella-Vila OlÝmpica, and also at Selva de Mar and El Maresme stops, with metro L1 at Marina and at Gl˛ries stops, and also with the R1 line of the Rodalies/CercanÝas Renfe commuter train service at Estaciˇ de Sant AdriÓ stop.

The second (T5) runs from Gl˛ries stop through an underground section through Bes˛s and then Sant Roc and Gorg.
It connects with metro L1 at Gl˛ries stop, with metro L4 at Bes˛s stop, with metro L2 at Sant Roc stop, and also with metro L2 and L10 at Gorg stop.

The third line (T6) runs from Gl˛ries stop through Bes˛s and then La Mina till Estaciˇ de Sant AdriÓ.
It connects with metro L1 at Gl˛ries stop, with metro L4 at Bes˛s stop, and also with the R1 line of the Rodalies/CercanÝas Renfe commuter train service at Estaciˇ de Sant AdriÓ stop.

A few images of the Trambes˛s.

A tram on a T4 service, at Wellington stop:



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A tram on a T5 service, at Gl˛ries stop:



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A tram on a T4 service, at Fˇrum stop:



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Old July 7th, 2013, 07:10 PM   #44
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-Tramvia Blau.

This is the oldest remaining line, built in 1901.
Unlike all the other lines, it has always been in use since day one, and between 1971 and 2004, it was the only tramway line in use in Barcelona.

It is a short line, running from Plaša Kennedy (and connecting with Avinguda Tibidabo L7 FGC metro line) to Plaša Doctor Andreu (and connecting with the Tibidabo funicular).

A few images.

At the depot, trams 2, 7 and 129:



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Tram 2 is the oldest, the only survivor of the 1901 trams. It doesn┤t run very often.

Tram 7 (and their fellows of the 5-10 series) is not much younger either, but it┤s not from the original series that started the service, it was built for the extension from Plaša Doctor Andreu to Vallvidrera, now closed. These are the usual trams you┤ll find running.



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Tram 129, an open tram, came from the old TB tram network, now closed, and was restored in the 1980s for the Tramvia Blau, despite being red. It is usually seen only in summer. The "55" on top is the number of an old closed TB line.



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-TranvÝas de Barcelona (TB).

It is part of the company now known as TMB. Runs the metro, the buses, and till 1971 also a tram network that used to be very large. But it started closing many lines in the 1950s and the last two survivors, lines 49 and 51, closed in 1971 (though line 51 still exists as a bus line).

Here you can see tram 1601 (a PCC ), in a location that I suspect it could be Plaša de Sants, in the 1960s:



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A double-decker tram at the old Vilana depot, in La Bonanova quarter, probably in the late 1950s-early 1960s.



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It is kind of interesting how Barcelona and several other cities around europe got such massive tram networks in a relatively short period of time. It was basically a variant of the Ponzi scheme where the manufacturers of tramcars entered the bussiness on the operational side so they could supply themselves with ever increasing amounts of tramcars.

In the case of Barcelona it was Belgian tram manufacturers (or rather the holding company that is) that bough up all the operators and established a monopolizing company. Pretty rapidly the network was expanded and supplied with more trams.

This was accelerated in the 1920s until Spain became a dictatorship and the tramcompany was nationalized. But the inflation was already massive, some 800 tramcars clogged the streets of Barcelona and the whole city was crisscrossed by tramways, several hundreds of kilometres.

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Do you know if and when the 2 tramway systems in Barcelona will be connected via the center of town?Thank U for the beautifull pictures.....
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I love those old trams, there's just something very beautiful about them, especially those streamlined 60s ones.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 03:38 PM   #49
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Do you know if and when the 2 tramway systems in Barcelona will be connected via the center of town?Thank U for the beautifull pictures.....
It isn┤t known yet.

At the moment, the transport plan is to expand the Trambes˛s network, from Ciutadella-Vila OlÝmpica current terminus till the World Trade Center, and thus, serving Estaciˇ de Franša (connecting with commuter and regional rail), Pla de Palau, Passeig Colom, Drassanes (or nearby, connecting with L3), and the World Trade Center (connecting with the ferries for the Balearics, Sardinia and mainland Italy).

If that happened, loads of tourists who are now unaware of the existence of the trams in Barcelona would have it in their face. And it would increase ridership a lot, not because of the tourists, but because it would connect northern suburbs to the sea front, the ferry terminal, the WTC, a university, a railway station and two metro lines that now are not well connected.

It┤s not officially mentioned now (but it has been in the past though, or at least there┤s been talk about it), but there┤s also some talk about a possible branch from Pla de Palau towards the end of the Barceloneta quarter (the end would be not far from the Hotel W), to connect the Barceloneta quarter, which isn┤t very well served by mass transport, it would also connect with metro L4 at Barceloneta (despite its name, the station serves only a small part of the quarter). This option seems to be shelved now though.

Then there is the other official plan, wich would be to expand the tramway from Gl˛ries or Auditori Nacional towards Urquinaona via Arc de Triomf and Estaciˇ del Nord. I┤m not very confident about this posible extension, since there is already metro L1 for that corridor.

And then there is the infamous idea of uniting the two modern tram networks from Gl˛ries to Francesc MaciÓ, but that would be extremely disruptive, and trams would be overcrowded from day one if that was done. That corridor needs the metro or commuter rail, not the tram (or maybe not only the tram). There was also the idea of uniting the two networks from the Columbus statue (Drassanes) till Francesc MaciÓ using the Paral.lel-Sant Antoni-Urgell corridor.

But for now, none of what I┤ve written has gone anywhere beyond the Project/proposal/plan/idea stage (and then there┤s the crisis).
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Does the city plans to introduce a new type of trams any other models?
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Barcelona is an extremely cramped city. They should build more subway lines instead of surface ones. I think Barcelona is one of the European cities most suitable for a system where > 70% of public transportation passenger-km goes underground on subways, instead of elsewhere.
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Does the city plans to introduce a new type of trams any other models?
Not that we know, for now.

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There is room for the tram though.
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Between Zona UniversitÓria and Avinguda de Xile.

Tram n║16, on a T3 service bound for Sant Feliu-Consell Comarcal.



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A tram at Avinguda de Xile stop, on an unusually snowy day of 2010.



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Tram n║ 16 again, on a T3 service bound for Francesc MaciÓ, at L┤Illa stop.



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Barcelona trams, in... 1908.

105 years later things have changed just a bit.

To start with, this is 16 years before the opening of the first stretch of metro (L3 Lesseps-Catalunya).
I find curious the number of cyclists, too. And you can spot some horses too.

The tram follows an old route, now used by a bus line, along Passeig de GrÓcia, Gran de GrÓcia street (back then called "Salmerˇn"), Plaša Lesseps, Rep˙blica Argentina avenue, and Craywinckel street, which was also the first ever route followed by the Barcelona tramways (horse-powered, 1872).

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More vintage stuff about the Barcelona tramways, this must be the 1960s, when trams had their new (and final) livery in greyish green, which sort of inspired the current livery of the modern trams.

At 04:01, we can see trams along the Diagonal avenue, in an area where trams run again.

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To compare old and new, two different series of Barcelona trams, running both on the same stretch of Diagonal avenue.

First video, the old PCC trams (which in the video can also be spotted running on other locations, such as Plaša Espanya).
Second video, the current Citadis trams.

The old PCC trams weren┤t that slow...



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Barcelona is an extremely cramped city. They should build more subway lines instead of surface ones. I think Barcelona is one of the European cities most suitable for a system where > 70% of public transportation passenger-km goes underground on subways, instead of elsewhere.
Ok no tram through Barri Gotic but apart from the rest, I would actually say Barcelona is more suited for trams than for instance Amsterdam is. I have lived in both cities now for over 8 years so I have seen what I am talking about and think that we could easily create a bus/tram lane on main thoroughfares and create a grid of trams. More pedestrianized areas, huge parkings at Espanya, Glories and Sarria and create a Tramxample with a London-style Access Tax for Cars..... Sorry, had to retroll.
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CornellÓ Centre stop.
Tram number 09 on a T1 service bound for Bon Viatge.

This is the only underground stop of the Trambaix network, it is located right below the CornellÓ de Llobregat railway station, and the sidewalk from which the photo has been taken has the connection to both Renfe commuter trains (Rodalies, lines R1 and R4) and Metro (L5).



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