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Old July 9th, 2011, 03:38 AM   #341
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So sad NEWS

Seoul Lite is on crisis
There is argue between project company and Seoul Goverment.

Project Association want to One 77 Floors Tower+ Two 55 Floors Residential.

But Seoul Goverment persist on 133 Floors. But Money is problem.

http://media.daum.net/economic/view....uptxt&nil_id=4
As neat as having 3-4 500m+ towers in Seoul would be, I'd be just as happy to see another 300m and two more 200m towers go up, especially because Mapo-gu doesn't have much of a skyline right now.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 04:51 PM   #342
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So sad NEWS

Seoul Lite is on crisis
There is argue between project company and Seoul Goverment.

Project Association want to One 77 Floors Tower+ Two 55 Floors Residential.

But Seoul Goverment persist on 133 Floors. But Money is problem.

http://media.daum.net/economic/view....uptxt&nil_id=4
Seoul is a city of loser developers. Very disappointed at the greedy developers who may like nothing more than looking out for their bottom line by building more ugly commie apartments. No wonder Seoul's skyline seems to have no business of being a design city. Seoul must not give into these filthy investors but they must find someone else who will insist on a supertall in Seoul.
BTW, how is money a problem when the green eyed monsters want 3 buildings instead of a super one?
After several decades of all dream projects in Seoul the only note worthy landmark building still remains is the 63 building.
Seoul makes me cry all the time.

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Old July 18th, 2011, 07:59 AM   #343
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Seoul is a city of loser developers. Very disappointed at the greedy developers who may like nothing more than looking out for their bottom line by building more ugly commie apartments. No wonder Seoul's skyline seems to have no business of being a design city. Seoul must not give into these filthy investors but they must find someone else who will insist on a supertall in Seoul.
BTW, how is money a problem when the green eyed monsters want 3 buildings instead of a super one?
After several decades of all dream projects in Seoul the only note worthy landmark building still remains is the 63 building.
Seoul makes me cry all the time.
Me too "Seoul makes me cry all the time."

Daewoo and Daerim must learn a lesson from Samsung's case.
Samsung give up "dreamhub" after that they damage at "Parc1"
Now dreamhub gear up again! But parc1 hold on.
Let this be an example to Daewoo and Daerim

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As neat as having 3-4 500m+ towers in Seoul would be, I'd be just as happy to see another 300m and two more 200m towers go up, especially because Mapo-gu doesn't have much of a skyline right now.
Right ~~~ Mapo-gu doesn't have much of a skyline right now. Now it's time for booming



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Old July 18th, 2011, 08:05 AM   #344
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Yup!its time to seoul booming!
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Old July 18th, 2011, 12:32 PM   #345
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This building looks awesome and I'd really like to see it built. It would be really cool if Seoul would become the new NYC
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Old July 18th, 2011, 04:26 PM   #346
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It will never become the new NYC because it doesn't want to. NYC is a metropolis built on oil and immigrants whereas Seoul prefecture is a massive, 2000 years old area with something close to 50% of the total Korea's population located comfortably in a vast region.
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Old July 18th, 2011, 06:48 PM   #347
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It will never become the new NYC because it doesn't want to. NYC is a metropolis built on oil and immigrants whereas Seoul prefecture is a massive, 2000 years old area with something close to 50% of the total Korea's population located comfortably in a vast region.
Yeah, it will never become NYC since it has a completely different history, geography, and is not an immigrant city
(although foreign population is growing but not enough to see many races out in the streets like NYC and Korea itself
is not really an immigrant country)

But one thing to clarity things a bit, Seoul is NOT a prefecture (this is only used in Japan)

Special City: Seoul

Metropolicatn Cities: Busan, Daegu, Incheon, Gwangu, Daejeon, Ulsan

Provinces: Gyeonggi (part of Greater Seoul Area), Gangwon (where Pyeongchang is located for the 2018 Winter Olympics), Chungcheongbukm Chungcheongnam, Jeollabuk-do, Jeollanam-do, Gyeongsandbuk-do, Gyeongsangnam-do are provinces and

Special Self-governing province: Jeju Island
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Old July 18th, 2011, 06:59 PM   #348
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I think the point was that New York, statistically/demographically speaking, is a much smaller and denser area, at least when considering the area people think of when they think of New York (primarily Manhattan). There just isn't really a need for the sort of skyscraper building in Seoul that there is in Manhattan. That being said, I do think the city deserves at least three 300m+ buildings, and a lot more 200-300m ones; that is, assuming it wants a decent skyline. It's just too spread out as it is right now.

Although I do have to ask Mr. krkseg1ops, New York is built on oil? Are you sure you have the right country? New York is built on financial services. That is also a major difference between Seoul and New York.
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Old July 18th, 2011, 08:39 PM   #349
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Well, I personally like the idea of a few 500m+ towers far better than the idea of a lot of 200m+ towers.
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Old July 18th, 2011, 09:07 PM   #350
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Well, I personally like the idea of a few 500m+ towers far better than the idea of a lot of 200m+ towers.
but i like the idea of a lot 200m building actually being built over a few 500m buildings not being built at all. but i think seould can actually build one of these. i dont think two will be built at the same time. i stay sceptical until they actually rise, but of course it would be nice
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Old July 18th, 2011, 10:18 PM   #351
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It will never become the new NYC because it doesn't want to. NYC is a metropolis built on oil and immigrants whereas Seoul prefecture is a massive, 2000 years old area with something close to 50% of the total Korea's population located comfortably in a vast region.
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I think the point was that New York, statistically/demographically speaking, is a much smaller and denser area, at least when considering the area people think of when they think of New York (primarily Manhattan). There just isn't really a need for the sort of skyscraper building in Seoul that there is in Manhattan. That being said, I do think the city deserves at least three 300m+ buildings, and a lot more 200-300m ones; that is, assuming it wants a decent skyline. It's just too spread out as it is right now.

Although I do have to ask Mr. krkseg1ops, New York is built on oil? Are you sure you have the right country? New York is built on financial services. That is also a major difference between Seoul and New York.
Right NYC is world No 1 city. Yesterday i saw a NYC documentary(Let's city make it brand! I♡NY Story) in KBS.

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This building looks awesome and I'd really like to see it built. It would be really cool if Seoul would become the new NYC
I really Hope so. But New York is

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but i like the idea of a lot 200m building actually being built over a few 500m buildings not being built at all. but i think seould can actually build one of these. i dont think two will be built at the same time. i stay sceptical until they actually rise, but of course it would be nice
Correct, Unfortunately, this 640m project is almost canceled.
Remain Only Lotte Seoul tower/Hyundai Tower/DreamHub It is like Seoul skyscraper "tournament 2011". So cruel ~ Dead or Live.
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Old July 19th, 2011, 02:49 AM   #352
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Is this tower really going to be cancelled? Damn, another fine project going to waste
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Old July 19th, 2011, 06:24 AM   #353
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Is this tower really going to be cancelled? Damn, another fine project going to waste
Unfortunately, Consortium want to built One 77fl and two 55fl rather than Only One 640m tower.

But Seoul goverment persist on 640m tower. I'm not sure whether this project is cancelled or succeed.
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Even the 77-floor tower would probably be well over 300m, maybe closer to 400m, and the 55-floor ones would probably be about 250m or so. That'd still be great.
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Even the 77-floor tower would probably be well over 300m, maybe closer to 400m, and the 55-floor ones would probably be about 250m or so. That'd still be great.
Please, no more hideous commie apartments in Seoul for God's sake!
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Correct, Unfortunately, this 640m project is almost canceled.
Remain Only Lotte Seoul tower/Hyundai Tower/DreamHub It is like Seoul skyscraper "tournament 2011". So cruel ~ Dead or Live.
only one 500m+ building can survive ~

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Old July 19th, 2011, 12:30 PM   #357
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Please, no more hideous commie apartments in Seoul for God's sake!
Short need not equally boring or ugly. Seoul has a lot of potential, and it's not all vertical.
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only one 500m+ building can survive ~

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Old July 19th, 2011, 03:25 PM   #359
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It will never become the new NYC because it doesn't want to. NYC is a metropolis built on oil and immigrants whereas Seoul prefecture is a massive, 2000 years old area with something close to 50% of the total Korea's population located comfortably in a vast region.
Besides that, Seoul will have to work hard to come even close to the atmosphere and charisma of NYC.
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Short need not equally boring or ugly. Seoul has a lot of potential, and it's not all vertical.
True, height of building may not necessarily mean practicality. Nonetheless, it gets attention and some bragging rights as well.
Can you pick out a skyscraper in Seoul that inspires others by size or design sophistication? I just can't think of any...
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