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Old December 1st, 2014, 08:56 PM   #581
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My impression is the following: For korean forumers is better to avoid to create new threads about this kind of projects until the tower is under its half construction.



Serious: I hope this tower will be constructed soon. I'm not fan of the area selected between the two artificial-mountain-parks-former-garbage-area but...
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 05:13 PM   #582
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Ther article just says that one of the participating companies said that the height of the building should be re-concidered, without any further details about what he exactly means with that.

Please don't panic. Its just an opinon of one of the many participating companies.
Greenland China still wants to invest, and Seoul Government welcomes the investment from China. Seoul Government wants the 640m (at least the article doesn't say anything different!)

so please don't panic, everything is okay.

Next meeting with real estate experts is on November 26.
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Essential sentence in the article:
"하지만 DMC 입지 여건과 사업비 등을 고려할 때 100층 이상으로 짓는 것은 현실적으로 불가능하다는 게 업계 관계자들의 중론이다. "

--> "Industry officials think that everything above 100 floors is economically not feasable in DMC area."

If they want someone to build it, they probably have to reduce the height to make it feasable. Sad but true Economy sucks, investment is difficult.
Its hard to build a supertall if korean companies don't want to build it. I don't know how the mayor can change that?

Actually I'm happy and even a bit suprised that they still even consider building this. So I'm quite excited about this project and I'm looking forward to what they will do in the end!


PS: And Seoul can be proud that there are even 3 districts where supertalls can be built! Many other cities only have 1 or 2 districts. `
Most European cities have none.

Give me a break dude

Don't you remember what did you say before?
I warning that THIS project will be decreased to below 640m
Because seoul mayor dislike to built SUPERTALL.
But You say "Don't panic It will be OK"

Its just an opinon of one of the many participating companies.
Greenland China still wants to invest, and Seoul Government welcomes the investment from China. Seoul Government wants the 640m

YOU SAY SEOUL Government wants the 640m. Where did you get information about that?(even I don't know-i AM SEOULITE)
You must persist in opinions!
SANGAM DMC landmark site is for SUPERTALL of seoul not normal tall.
This land is property of seoul citizens for built symbol of seoul. If seoul government to built belwo 100fl then it is a serious breach of duty. So that reason Now civil NGO prepare a file a suit against seoul mayor for they BREACH OF DUTY!
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 05:43 PM   #583
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Give me a break dude
I'm not attacking you, it was just my opinion in this discussion

it's simple: my first post was 13 days ago, where much less information was available. now they had meetings and apparently more and more korean companies think that over 100 floors are not feasable. thats what what's written in the article.

seoul government started the public offering for a 640m building (=they wanted/accepted that height), but now they struggle to find companies who want to build it (except greenland china), so they might have to lower the height. sounds reasonable.

That's how i understand it, and i understand if korean companies think that 130 floors are too expensive to make profit

anyway, nothing is fixed yet, so we don't know for sure yet.
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 05:43 PM   #584
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Something like 70~99 floors office or mixed use tower is still a supertall. It's like 320m~450m, so it's still really tall. Be happy it's not canceled, but still a supertall

No SANGAM DMC land is seoul citizen's property for built seoul's symbol
So that reason this land is supply to construction company with almost FREE price.($0.4 billions.......compare with HYUNDAI HQ $10 BILLIONS)

If they built under 100fl, then it seriously a breach of duty. This is complicated legal problem.


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My impression is the following: For korean forumers is better to avoid to create new threads about this kind of projects until the tower is under its half construction.



Serious: I hope this tower will be constructed soon. I'm not fan of the area selected between the two artificial-mountain-parks-former-garbage-area but...

Agree dear.
This doubtful project worthless for updates
I think THIS THREAD NO MORE NEED STAY IN proposal supertall!!
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Old December 15th, 2014, 10:00 PM   #585
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BREAKING NEWS

SAUDI NATIONAL FUND PIF try to investment in SEOULITE LANDMARK TOWER
http://www.mof.gov.sa/english/pages/investment.aspx

PIF is going to make a consortium with korea no1 steel maker&construction company POSCO.

"It is probably PIF will be make a consortium with POSCO" say seoul government concern say

Therefore GREEN HOUSE OF CHINA AND SAUDI NATIONAL FUND interesting about seoilite tower.



but fxxk seoul won sung mayor try to decreased this landmark tower height and floor below 100floor Best time for worst mayor
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Official agreement ceremony between SEOUL and GREEN HOUSE OF CHINA INVESTMENT INTENTION TO the project of DMC LANDMARK

WHEN : 2014.12.22.(월) 14:30 ~ 15:00

WHO PARTICIPATED : SEOUL MAYOR /THE CHAIRMAN OF GREEN HOUSE ETC 10 PEOPLE


If not stupid monkey decreased height of this project, then we can see another over 100fl landmark in seoul
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Old December 19th, 2014, 05:20 AM   #587
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Official agreement ceremony between SEOUL and GREEN HOUSE OF CHINA INVESTMENT INTENTION TO the project of DMC LANDMARK

WHEN : 2014.12.22.(월) 14:30 ~ 15:00

WHO PARTICIPATED : SEOUL MAYOR /THE CHAIRMAN OF GREEN HOUSE ETC 10 PEOPLE


If not stupid monkey decreased height of this project, then we can see another over 100fl landmark in seoul
Thanks Inno.

So, if this agreement is signed, does it definitely (assuming "definitely" even means something in the world of skyscraper building) close the doors on other investors, including the Saudi National Fund? Or could Seoul still shop around offers until they settle and select the winning investor?
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Old December 20th, 2014, 10:46 PM   #588
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Thanks Inno.

So, if this agreement is signed, does it definitely (assuming "definitely" even means something in the world of skyscraper building) close the doors on other investors, including the Saudi National Fund? Or could Seoul still shop around offers until they settle and select the winning investor?

beside tomorrow's agreement
Still open the door for competitive bid of SEOULITE LANDMARK's project.

competitive bid SOME scenario
-green land house+SAMSUNG construction / POSCO+SAUDI NATIONAL FUND consortium
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 08:13 AM   #589
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As I say before TODAY held Official agreement ceremony between seoul and Green house of china for LANDMARK TOWER PROJECT IN SANGAM DMC

Above is official seoul's public notification
" -seoul will be make a world best class DIGITAL MEDIA CONTENT HUB IN total 37,262.3㎡ site
-GREEN COMPANY decision for increased relationship between seoul and china.
-seoul will be make DMC landmark as WORLD class architecture.


"today LOI agreement is signal for resume LANDMARK project.
We expect other new company's make another LOI agreement and participated on this project
we(seoul) try to make to built World best class digital media content's symbol" say Mr su dong rok who manager of seoul economic promotion department

CHINA LARGEST PROPERTY COMPANY BETTING ON SEOUL LANDMARK
http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/society/s...al/670166.html
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http://www.fnnews.com/news/201412221557190021

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-today about 2~30 news and journal report about landmark
-journal report that there is no korean company who investment this project due to economical feasibility
-some of them worry about green house alone participated on competitive bid
-journal worry that if seoul government modified the TERMS of competitive bid as below 100 floor, then it will be serious special favor to the china company.
-Because If this tower under 100fl then economical feasibility increased and tremendous profit belong to foreign company.
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 04:50 PM   #591
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If Greenland is taking this project on. I expect nothing but the best from them. An AS+GG design will look great in Seoul!
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 11:41 PM   #592
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If Greenland is taking this project on. I expect nothing but the best from them. An AS+GG design will look great in Seoul!

long time no see
absolutely agree with you muwon!!
Especially AS+GG is my favorite architecture firm in the world.
they were proposal awesome in yongsan ibd.
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Old December 23rd, 2014, 09:13 AM   #593
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UPDATE NEWS

Green house of china chariman announced that to investment $ 3~4 billions in seoul landmark project

he interviews with korean journal and say "We gonna invest another seoul project which good condition project.(I guess YONGSAN IBD). But yangje terminal is under suffer with complicated administration. so that project except.
We implantation about 20 china big company into this landmark offce. especially i WILL contacted with alibaba.com. Because seoul is very important city not only in Asia but also in the world."

-but according to the sources there is possibility that this tower decreased to 7~80fl.

also now SAUDI national fund seriously considering whether to investment on this project or not.

-there is no korean company interesting in this project

-official this project's allowing height is 656m height

-seoul considering decreased height. not yet confirm<== but my opinions how 7~80fl tower can seoul's landmark?
even infront of sangam DMC this project site PARC1 of yeiudo over 300m tower existence.
also lotte tower 123fl 7~80fl is ordinary height in seoul
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Old December 23rd, 2014, 02:43 PM   #594
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Yesterday chairman of green house of china met SAMSUNG electronics's head Mr yoon bu gun

there is no detail story about this meeting but it known that green house ask to supply TV refrigerator of samsung's product into green house's making building(hotel, resort etc) all around the world.

my personal guess green house invest money+samsung construction will be built sangam seoulite tower. (as consortium)
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http://news.tvchosun.com/site/data/h...290.html#none;

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绿地拟投200亿建首尔双子塔 2014-12-23 00:59 经济参考报 评论   22日,记者从绿地集团了解到,

绿地当日与韩国首尔市政府签署相关协议,拟投资逾200亿元人民币开发建设首尔最高双塔建筑,

并将其打造为中国企业在韩总部基地。   

绿地方面告诉《经济参考报》记者,此次大手笔投资韩国市场,

主要基于中韩自贸协定带来的有利市场预期。   

据了解,此次投资的项目规划用地面积约56亩,规划总建筑面积约62万平方米。

绿地规划将其建设为集酒店、普通住宅、办公、商业等于一体的超高层双塔建筑,

建成后将成为首尔市地标建筑。(高伟)

CHINA NATIONAL NEWS ABOUT SEOUL PROJECT

-TO BUILT SUPERTALL TWIN TOWER
-THIS TWIN TOWER WILL BE SEOUL'S LANDMARK.


PROBABLY GREEN HOUSE FINISH DESIGN?
WORLD TALLEST TWIN TOWER?
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let's hope for 400m+ twins.
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Old December 25th, 2014, 04:30 PM   #598
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绿地拟投200亿建首尔双子塔 2014-12-23 00:59 经济参考报 评论   22日,记者从绿地集团了解到,

绿地当日与韩国首尔市政府签署相关协议,拟投资逾200亿元人民币开发建设首尔最高双塔建筑,

并将其打造为中国企业在韩总部基地。   

绿地方面告诉《经济参考报》记者,此次大手笔投资韩国市场,

主要基于中韩自贸协定带来的有利市场预期。   

据了解,此次投资的项目规划用地面积约56亩,规划总建筑面积约62万平方米。

绿地规划将其建设为集酒店、普通住宅、办公、商业等于一体的超高层双塔建筑,

建成后将成为首尔市地标建筑。(高伟)

CHINA NATIONAL NEWS ABOUT SEOUL PROJECT

-TO BUILT SUPERTALL TWIN TOWER
-THIS TWIN TOWER WILL BE SEOUL'S LANDMARK.


PROBABLY GREEN HOUSE FINISH DESIGN?
WORLD TALLEST TWIN TOWER?
what is based on?
Twin tower? can you translate this?
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I can verify Inno, for the English http://koreabizwire.com/seoulinks-mo...in-seoul/26867
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china twin tower
http://www.cnbnews.com/news/article.html?no=276582

Green land of china company will be built TALLEST twin tower in seoul?
Green land emphasis on not Tallest in the world but TALLEST twin in korea.

so maybe this tower lower than petronas twin tower of malysia

Some news worry about seoul government closed connection with greenland of china.

Because SAUDI NATIONAL FUND have a plan to participated on this project.

but Seoul agreement with china company. So SAUDI isolation by seoul.
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