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Old June 22nd, 2014, 09:45 PM   #21
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Some fine panoramas: Land vs water

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Old February 9th, 2015, 09:22 PM   #22
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A small reality check. The first residents moved in already and the rest of the initial quarter is being finished in the months to come.

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Old February 10th, 2015, 05:23 PM   #23
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Underground Station

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This is a very impressive project, however I thought that the train system would be underground? From the photos, it seems the rail is elevated above ground...seems to take up a lot of space!
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Old February 11th, 2015, 01:06 AM   #24
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Its the same solution as Copenhagen's Ørestad district and here it works very well with an elevated metro line and is also way cheaper to construct.


Btw on the subject Ørestad, I don't hope you guys makes the same mistake as us.

Ørestad consists of some huge apartment blocks that are very interesting to look at (BIG's Mountain dwelling etc) but its like that city/street life hs been an afterthought because there are no shops, café or bars at street level but only inside a huge shopping bunker.


My point is that its still time to learn from our mistakes, instead of using money on focus groups and study's as we are doing at the moment to create more life.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 01:53 AM   #25
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I don't worry that much about the impact of the above grade U2 corridor. It's rather slim and an underground track would have been prohibitively expensive, especially as this is the last stretch that will never have a very strong ridership. I also think that the above perspective makes it look bigger than it really is.

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Ørestad consists of some huge apartment blocks that are very interesting to look at (BIG's Mountain dwelling etc) but its like that city/street life hs been an afterthought because there are no shops, café or bars at street level but only inside a huge shopping bunker.

My point is that its still time to learn from our mistakes, instead of using money on focus groups and study's as we are doing at the moment to create more life.
Creating street life is a very steep challenge, but don't worry, money is at least not spent on impressive looking buildings here in the Seestadt. The facades are rather disappointing actually. However the ground floor concept is quite radical. If they keep true to the master plan, this quarter will be shopping centre free. Shops are planned to be erected in the ground floors of regular residential and other buildings. Not on every street but on designated corridors. The really new thing is that these planned shopping streets are going to be organized shopping centre like. That means there will be a real shopping street management that is in control of the shopping space and the rents. So shops that are important for the shopping street as a whole can get cheaper rents than other. Furthermore ground floor facilities are designed in a way that they are well suited in size, height and design for modern shopping uses.

If that is going to work out will be seen but the centrally organized shopping street concept is being realized very soon in a small scale in this current development phase.
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Old February 16th, 2015, 11:17 PM   #26
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Old April 12th, 2015, 01:47 PM   #27
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The first residential cluster of buildings is nearing completion. Much of the streetscape is already visible but all the plants are still missing so the end result should look significantly greener.

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The future heart of the district... doesn't quite look like it yet of course. But the fields and flowers are beautiful.

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Old May 31st, 2015, 05:47 PM   #29
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Old May 31st, 2015, 06:01 PM   #30
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This is a very lovely project; although I feel that it would of looked far more aesthetically-appealing if they had gone for some nice idyllic houses with actual roofs. To me, these look a bit like commie blocks.
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That "lake" is quite a joke though, isn't it. Although it got quite nice colours, is it due to high amounts of chalk?
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Old May 31st, 2015, 06:41 PM   #32
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Well, "Teichstadt" would have certainly been more appropriate than "Seestadt" but then, digging out a huge lake would have been an equally huge waste of money and valuable land.

The impression of the lake differes substantially depending on which side you are standing. From the park in its middle it looks quite modest, but from the north side it doesn't look small at all. Just think of it as a park with a lake and then it fits well to the description.

The water colour is pretty much in line of what you would expect from what is technically a Schotterteich. But don't ask me anything specific, I know fairly little about the biology and chemistry behind it.
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That "lake" is quite a joke though, isn't it. Although it got quite nice colours, is it due to high amounts of chalk?
That's the type of bullshit lake that developers put in suburban neighborhoods here in Florida. Hopefully they aren't done working on that lake.
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Old May 31st, 2015, 07:36 PM   #34
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No, that is pretty much it. I don't know if the north side is already planned in detail, there may still occur some slight changes but the dimensions are pretty much final. The dimensions were never a secret. Already the original master plan showed the lake pretty much like you see it today.

Its certainly not huge but what's wrong with a lake-park in the centre of a new development?
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Is it really a lake (only complete with inflow/runoff) or rather a stagnant pond? If the latter, it might become stinky and mosquito-y sooner than later...
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The latter. Actually it is a ground water lake, so there is interaction with the surrounding and it is not a stagnant water tight sink. There are a number of lakes like that in the neighbourhood and the look quite similar in terms of water colour and quality. The lake Hirschstetten northwest of the Seestadt is about 3-4 times bigger but heavily used as swimming lake and looks fine as well.

I am aware that this is a tricky issue but I hope they thought about issues like this.

It sure as hell will be a mosquitor paradise. But so what, large areas of Donaustadt are anyway. If that is an issue, take an appartment in the highest floors, mosquitos are challenged by high heights and don't make it to the very top
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The first neighbourhood is now finished and construction is continuing only around it, not within. The next stage of development is in the former "innovation quarter", ie the area between the first neighbourhood and the U-Bahn station U2-Seestadt.

Time for some great spring picture from our dear forum member Hit_by_the_Neptunes: (for the complete set of pictures go there: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post132601933)

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The last update is from over a year ago. Time for another one.

After the first big splash with Phase 1 some smaller projects have been ongoing and are being finished as we speak:

A New High school ( AHS, WMS: 1100 students)
B New Residentials
C Residentials and assisted living flats (for people with special needs) + training kitchen of WienWork (municipal workshop for handicapped people, people who can't find a job due to chronic illnesses or other long term unemployed people)
D Maria Trapp Platz (new square)


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Maria Trapp Platz (D) with new high school (A) and new mixed use building (C):


http://meine.seestadt.info/wp-conten...1-1024x683.jpg



The big current expansion phase however is the "Seeparkquartier" between the U2 subway station and the already existing quarters. Initially they hoped to lure some university there for a new campus but that did not work out so it will be a dense new subcenter with residential, hotel, office and commercial uses instead. This quarter will also feature the first high rise of the Seestadt the "HoHo", a composite concrete-wooden building of 84 m height. It surely will stand out from the flat landscape and mark the Seestadt alraedy from afar.



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Seeparkquartier, view from the lake





And last but not least an actual picture of the quarter from early May:


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Thanks to dernobs we have a new up to date areal of the Seestadt, compare it to the areal from 2 years ago (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7357/...49d848c0_b.jpg) and you'll see that while the difference is not huge, progress has been made quite clearly

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Rückflug am 17.5. nach Wien über unsere tolle Seestadt...
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