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Old November 2nd, 2011, 12:26 AM   #2501
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As much I would rather have drivers, they must be replaced. They are out dated and how the city to ranson over wages and jobs when we are in need of improvement. Wish their could be an option to sack the lot and start over but replaced will suit too.
Like I said, I prefer drivers but DLR seems to work fine without them.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:35 AM   #2502
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:45 AM   #2503
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That's better, thanks!

Strange, to be hearing squealing wheels on British rail so much more than any clickety-clack nowadays (at London Bridge) What happened there?!?

Of all the new metro fleets around the world the last dozen years or so, London's S stock is the only one that's easy on the eyes

Tell me, is there a leaf-clearing programme such that no leaf be left behind, period?

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Old November 3rd, 2011, 01:28 PM   #2504
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Frost & Sullivan analyses London Underground upgrade

The London Underground (LU), one of the most prominent metro systems globally, is undergoing a major network upgrade programme.

It is estimated that from 2011 to 2014/15, Transport for London (TfL) is investing approximately £1.4 billion annually for the Tube’s capital expenditure programme, including line upgrade activities such as re-signalling, new rolling stock procurement and track replacement. The sprawling network consists of nearly 402 km of track and 270 stations, performing approximately 4 million passenger journeys per day.

It carries approximately 1.10 billion passengers per annum, which is more than the yearly passenger journeys across the rest of the United Kingdom rail network put together.

With the Olympic and Paralympic Games taking place in London in 2012, the LU is projected to remain even more under intense scrutiny. “Restructuring a network as complicated and old as the LU is one fraught with great difficulties,” says Senior Research Analyst, Sudhakaran Jampala, from Frost & Sullivan.

“Since the beginning of the programme in 2003, the LU upgrade programme has been plagued by project delays and criticism for frequent line closures. TfL, however, is likely to move strongly towards complete transformation with effective objectives based project management procedures in place.”

Under the oversight of TfL, a new signalling system came into operation on the Jubilee line in June 2011, which has been converted to Automatic Train Control (ATC) using the Thales SelTrac S40 Communications-Based Train Control (CBTC) system.

The system is projected to increase capacity by 33 per cent before the 2012 Olympics, adding another 12,500 passengers per hour and reducing journey time by 22 per cent. On the Victoria line, the 1967 train stock has been replaced with Bombardier 2009 stock built in Derby.

The new trains allow the implementation of the Invensys Distance To Go – Radio (DTG-R) Automatic Train Protection (ATP) product, which would help to increase the number of trains per hour to 33 from 27, once the upgrade is complete.

By 2016, the LU will have also replaced over 40 per cent of its fleet on the 4 sub-surface railway (SSR) lines (District, Hammersmith & City, Circle and Metropolitan) and the ‘Deep Tube’ Victoria line, with a total of 1,778 Bombardier MOVIA metro trainsets. They contain features such as CCTV cameras, increased aisle width, passenger-driver two-way communication enabled emergency alarms, as well as air conditioning and walkthrough gangways.

“Once the upgrade of the Hammersmith & City and Circle lines is complete, capacity will increase by 65%, which is an additional 17,000 passengers an hour,” says Mr. Jampala.

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Old November 3rd, 2011, 01:45 PM   #2505
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‘Revamped service information boards’ on Tube network

Customers on the Tube will be greeted with ‘clearer and more extensive travel information in stations from this week as redesigned service update information boards are rolled out across the network’, Transport for London had announced.

The boards, which are located in the ticket halls of London Underground (LU) stations, have been revamped in response to customer research on how TfL could offer more information to passengers to enable them to get up-to-the-minute updates and make choices about their onward journey.

The new design will group any disrupted lines together at the top of the screen so that customers can see at a glance if their journey is likely to be affected. Disrupted lines will carry information alongside them to describe the extent and direction of the problem affecting them, rather than simply stating ‘minor’ or ‘severe’ delays as the current screen design does.

Unaffected lines will be listed below those that are disrupted, and the foot of the new-look screen will carry rotating messages giving more information around any service disruption. The changes will also be reflected in web and mobile phone page views.

Gareth Powell, LU’s director of strategy and service development, said:

“The key changes we’ve made mean that electronic service update information is now much clearer – these changes will allow customers moving quickly through a busy station to see at glance whether their line is affected, and give them the information they need to make an alternative travel choice if they wish to.

“Other train operating companies in the south-east are working together to improve customer information and Transport for London is assisting in that project, so that passengers on national rail within a certain distance of London could get live travel information at major interchanges and key stations.”
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 09:32 PM   #2506
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Richard Tracey backs proposals for driverless Underground

London Assembly Conservative Group transport spokesman, Richard Tracey, has backed a report presented to the Transport for London Board that proposes to introduce driverless trains on the London Underground.

Mr Tracey, who ‘first proposed that the Tube go driverless a year ago’ said: “When I first suggested the way forward for London Underground is to adopt driverless technology I was seen as maverick. So I am very pleased that my ideas for the Tube have become mainstream thinking for future investment plans.

“A driverless Underground would deliver safe, fast and efficient mass transit for London. It would usher in a step change in the way we get about our capital city and it should be embraced.

“Many other cities around the world, which have both new and old metro systems, run driverless trains. Indeed it’s nothing particularly revolutionary in London either: the DLR has been driverless since the 1980s and the Victoria, Central and Jubilee are all highly automated where drivers no longer actually drive the trains.

“Once upgrades are completed the Northern, Circle, District, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan lines will operate in the same way too. So I endorse this Transport for London report. Driverless Tube? It can’t come soon enough.”
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Old November 4th, 2011, 06:27 AM   #2507
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How long are train cars and trains on different lines?
Approximately...

Bakerloo: 7 x 16m cars = 112m
Central: 8 x 16m cars = 130m
Circle/H&C/District (Edgware Road - Wimbledon): 6 x 16m cars = 95m
District: 6 x 18m cars = 112m
Jubilee: 7 x 18m cars = 126m
Metropolitan: 8 x 16m cars = 130m
Northern: 6 x 18m cars = 112m
Piccadilly: 6 x 18m cars = 112m
Victoria: 8 x 16m cars = 130m
W&C: 4 x 16m cars = 65m
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Old November 5th, 2011, 05:07 PM   #2508
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Underground could be running driverless trains as early as 2018

Three out of four Tube trains will be able to operate without drivers by 2018, Transport for London directors have been told.

These include trains on all lines except Piccadilly, Bakerloo and Waterloo and City. A report presented to the TfL board said that once the new stock of trains for the sub-surface lines is complete it is "unlikely" Tube bosses "will ever again buy a fleet of passenger trains with conventional drivers' cabs", and upgrading the signalling systems meant "by 2018...some 70 per cent of the network will be automatic".

Plans for driverless trains across the network from 2020 were revealed by the Evening Standard last week.

London Assembly Tory group transport spokesman Richard Tracey said: "It makes total sense. Thirty cities around the world have driverless trains. They are perfectly safe."

But Caroline Pidgeon, leader of the Assembly Lib-Dem group and the transport committee, said the Assembly would need "absolute guarantees" about safety.
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BBC Two to take viewers underground in new observational documentary series

Janice Hadlow announces a major new documentary series with unique access to London underground.

The 6x60 series, The Tube, takes viewers behind the scenes of the world’s oldest, biggest and busiest underground train network. Made by Blast! Films, the series will tell the inside story of one of the most critical moments in the tube’s history as the underground network undergoes the biggest upgrade of any railway system ever planned in the world.

Running a system built and designed in 1863 for the demands of the 21st Century is an extraordinary feat. The upgrade will be done under immense pressure to keep lines open and minimise the length of station closures.

Cameras will go to the places viewers have always wanted to see – behind the hoardings to reveal the massive new engineering works, inside the command centre to see what running this most complex of train sets is really like and illuminating a hidden underground world that only comes to life at night.

The series will meet the people who run and use the tube, from obsessive MD Mike Brown down to the litter collector who walks miles every night collecting rubbish off the track. And then of course there are the passengers – the tourists, the suburban commuters, the drunkards getting the last train home, the school outings, the buskers and the down and outs.
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Digiguide also brings up an episode of 'Big, Bigger, Biggest' on the London Underground on the National Geographic Channel in December.

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DOCUMENTARY: Big, Bigger, Biggest
Channel: National Geographic
Date: Sunday 4th December 2011
Time: 22:00 to 23:00 (starting in 28 days)
Duration: 1 hour.
London Underground Revealed. Special Episode 1.
Documentary series examining the technology behind some of the largest feats of engineering in the world.
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London Underground unveils proposals to boost Bank capacity

Plans that would see the creation of wider platforms, better access to lines and step-free access to a new ticket hall at one of the Tube’s busiest stations will go on public display from today.

London Underground (LU) will showcase the proposals for the Bank station capacity upgrade project from 8 to 11 November at an exhibition in the City as part of the consultation on the plans.

The proposed project aims to relieve congestion and increase capacity at Bank and Monument, the fourth busiest interchange on the Tube network, with a range of solutions that would ease overcrowding:

- A new southbound Northern line running tunnel that will create extra space to reduce crowding on the platforms

. A new Northern line concourse with additional interchange passageways and escalators to the Docklands Light Railway (DLR) and Central line

- Lifts to a new ticket hall in King William Street to provide step-free access between street level, the Northern line and DLR.

- LU’s application for a Transport Works Act Order will be submitted in late 2012 and, if granted, construction would begin in 2015 with completion scheduled for 2021.

David Waboso, LU’s Director of Capital Programmes, said: “Bank is one of the busiest stations on the network and we’ve been working closely with the City of London Corporation on plans to create more capacity at this important interchange.

“Most of the work will be below the ground and we’ll keep disruption to a minimum during construction, but it’s important that the public have the chance to comment on what we’re proposing to improve their Tube network.”

Members of the project team will be available to answer any questions about the proposals at an exhibition at 10 King William Street, London EC4N 7TW.
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Is this one also corrupted or do passengers really not choke from apparent mustiness (2' to 5', approximately)? besides, I can't remember the last time I boarded an empty car ...
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Tube to test driverless trains in four years

Driverless Tube trains could be running in a trial by 2015 - three years sooner than expected, confidential London Underground documents reveal today. The Waterloo & City line, the direct one-stop link between Waterloo mainline station and Bank, will be tested first, followed by the Bakerloo, Piccadilly and Central lines.

The document, seen by the Evening Standard and headed "Introduction to Deep Tube Programme", lists W&C line trials as starting in 2015 with Bakerloo line trials a year or two later. It states the "feasibility stage" of the overall plan "is focusing on an initial trial implementation on the W&C line".

It "provides an opportunity to transform London Underground operation enabled by technology".

The plan for driverless trains and wholescale changes to LU - including axing 1,500 more staff and scrapping all but 30 of the 250-plus ticket offices - will now form a major campaign issue in the run-up to the mayoral election. Changes have led to union claims of stations being left unstaffed.

Mayoral candidate Ken Livingstone pledged "there will be a driver in every train and staff at every station" if he is re-elected. Bob Crow, the RMT union leader, said: "Put it in your manifesto that there will be a driver on every train and you will win."

He said: "Far from the 'blue sky thinking' LU were banging on about when we leaked their plans two weeks ago we now find the programme is at an advanced stage and ready to kick off in four years' time. This whole policy is being driven for political purposes by Tory Mayor Boris Johnson and the RMT believes that even his own officials know that it is madness."

He promised that the RMT would lead the "most strenuous and high-profile campaign" against the "reckless gamble" to change the Tube.

A Transport for London spokesman said: "The design specification for the next generation of Deep Tube trains is currently under development and is expected to feature technologies to reduce vehicle weight, improve energy efficiency and the possibility of air conditioning. Components and systems would of course require testing prior to introducing a new train, but the project remains in the early stages of planning."

Mr Johnson's spokesman said: "As technology changes it is right the London Underground should explore how they can run services in the most efficient, reliable and best possible way for the millions of passengers they carry every day."
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Is this one also corrupted or do passengers really not choke from apparent mustiness (2' to 5', approximately)? besides, I can't remember the last time I boarded an empty car ...
The tube is pretty musty but not that musty. Never have I noticed a strong mist appearing when on the tube, it must be a problem with the camera.
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