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Old April 16th, 2012, 12:40 AM   #2821
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Hmmm, mere emergency exits would be less costly than full-fledged stations ...
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Old April 16th, 2012, 12:54 PM   #2822
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That really is an interesting idea. I'd love to hear/see more about the proposals
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Old April 16th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #2823
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Old April 16th, 2012, 10:59 PM   #2824
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An idea that occasionally gets kicked around is digging tunnels from outer south London to the terminals for long-distance trains and using the overground network purely for local services. I think it makes sense as it'd keep costs down since new stations (which you'd need several of if you extended any tube lines) cost a hell of a lot more than new tunnels. It'd also allow for a proper metro service in the south. The huge increase in local capacity would allow them to reopen Camberwell, which is probably the biggest transport blackhole in inner London.
I had never thought of that but it seems like a good and feasible solution.
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Old April 16th, 2012, 11:04 PM   #2825
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What station is the last one ?
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Old April 17th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #2826
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Old April 17th, 2012, 03:28 PM   #2827
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An idea that occasionally gets kicked around is digging tunnels from outer south London to the terminals for long-distance trains and using the overground network purely for local services. I think it makes sense as it'd keep costs down since new stations (which you'd need several of if you extended any tube lines) cost a hell of a lot more than new tunnels. It'd also allow for a proper metro service in the south. The huge increase in local capacity would allow them to reopen Camberwell, which is probably the biggest transport blackhole in inner London.
Yeah it was discussed at length in the UK transport forum. The only one Network Rail have themselves suggested is on the Brighton Mainline, from Victoria to the Purley area, its in the RUS I think.

The other ones we discussed were Shortlands - Victoria for the Chatham and Maidstone lines, and Grove Park - Bermondsey for the Tonbridge mainline.

The drawback is that whilst capacity is certainly restricted by the mixed-use and flat junctions in the suburbs, another critical issue is platform space, of which there is none spare. So in order to utilise the capacity gained from removing the outer suburban / longer distance services, central London terminating or through capacity would also need to be enhanced, such as Crossrail 2 and 3 etc. Even reinstating a further 4 platforms at Waterloo International (1 is already confirmed to be converted) would not provide the necessary terminating capacity (and its on the wrong line anyway).

My opinion is that this will all probably happen eventually, unless it hasn't been done by the year 2100.
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Old April 17th, 2012, 10:47 PM   #2828
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There's a long term plan to reconfigure Victoria to provide more terminating capacity. It's referenced in this document on p.110 at 16 and 21:

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Further capacity increases (including, redeveloping Victoria station with more platforms for Southern services, and further train lengthening (more inners to 12 car))
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Conceptual scheme to redevelop Victoria station with additional platforms for South Eastern and grade separation of rail routes at Herne Hill
Both schemes are in the post-2020 pile.

On a related note, I wonder if it's possible to install a third terminating platform at Blackfriars. If the route via Herne Hill is to ever become a proper metro service (which there is undoubtedly sufficient demand for during the peak) or Camberwell is to be reopened (which is the area's only hope, since TfL's preferred options for extending the Bakerloo go east instead of south), I'm not sure two terminating platforms would be enough.
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Old April 18th, 2012, 08:58 PM   #2831
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Old April 18th, 2012, 10:36 PM   #2832
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Any more Underground documentary series?
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Old April 19th, 2012, 06:29 PM   #2833
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I don't think so.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 10:31 PM   #2834
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You're right, just six episodes' worth. There were, however, three other The Tube series, (e.g.,

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This is the 2003 one right? When were the other two?

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London Underground selects Bank bidders

Four bidders have been shortlisted to undertake ‘one of London Underground’s biggest and most complex projects’, LU announced on April 24, a package of works to increase capacity at Bank station including a new southbound running tunnel for the Northern Line.

The prequalified bidders are:

• BFK Joint Venture (BAM Nuttall, Ferrovial SA, Kier);
• CVC JV (Costain, Vinci Grands Projets, Vinci Construction);
• Dragados SA;
• MBA JV (Morgan Sindall, Balfour Beatty, Alpine Bemo Tunnelling).

Work to be completed by 2021 at what is currently LU’s fourth-busiest interchange, used by 96 000 passengers during the morning peak, includes a new ticket hall in King William Street providing lift access to the Northern Line and the Docklands Light Railway. Hoping to award a contract by July 2013, LU says that ‘the four strong bidding groups will be able to use their significant global infrastructure experience at Bank’.

‘We are using the new Innovative Contractor Engagement procurement process for the first time with this project’, said LU Capital Programmes Director David Waboso. ‘This process should improve our relationship with the contractor market and get the benefits of early contractor involvement while developing major design and build contracts.'

Under ICE, procurement now enters the structured dialogue phase where bidders present proposals against a requirements statement produced by LU. Any ‘intellectual capital’ produced by bidders will be protected by LU, which says that this stage will also include ‘discussions on commercial aspects’ such as optimising risk share and payment incentivisation.

A revised requirements statement incorporating ‘innovative ideas’ generated during these discussions will then be produced for the invitation to tender phase. By using ICE, LU says it is looking to deliver ‘10% to 20% increased value’ on the Bank capacity enhancement.
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TfL announces rail & Tube hotspots for London 2012

Transport for London and Olympics organisers have announced where Tube and rail ‘hotspots’ will be during the London 2012 Games.

Organisers said ‘lots of work has been done to ensure the transport system operates effectively at Games-time’ but delays will be inevitable. The information includes advice on places to avoid for those living and working in London.

Organisers have created a Tube map with ‘exceptionally busy’ stations highlighted.

During the Olympic Games, the Tube will run extra evening services on the Jubilee, Central and District lines. There will be more trains running in the late evening from Friday 3 August, when events start at the Olympic Stadium.

The Tube and DLR services will run around 60 minutes later than normal on all days, including Sundays. Last trains from central London will leave around 1.30am.

Up to three million extra journeys are expected to be made during the Olympics in London alone, and TfL has said Londoners should avoid Bank, Earl’s Court and London Bridge stations.

TfL has also asked Londoners to walk or cycle for the duration of the Games and work from home or stagger working hours.

Transport Secretary, Justine Greening, said: “I encourage businesses and individuals to plan how they are going to travel this summer, so we can deliver a fantastic Games that the whole country can be part of and proud of.”
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