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Old August 10th, 2012, 02:08 PM   #2881
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You seem to not know that much about the different types of cars and tunnels on the underground, I'd suggest a quick read-through of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_...infrastructure & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_..._rolling_stock

Especially this picture is very informative:

source: wikipedia
Both are underground cars, both are about as big as can be for the lines/tunnels they run in. the smaller one is for the deep tube lines that due to tech-constraints at the time were made that small. The larger one is for the sub-surface lines that are mainly cut-and-cover.

Crossrail will be deep, yes. It will also be NEW. Deep & OLD is why the deep tube lines are so narrow. This is what you seem to fail to grasp: there is a historical reason for the narrow tunnels and trains - no-one wants them to be that narrow, but they are so the alternatives are to live with it or to close the lines.
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Old August 10th, 2012, 02:11 PM   #2882
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no i'm just talking.

how deep is crossrail?
i thought it was the equivalent of our RER in paris? because a whole new line is deep like Line E for RER in paris st lazare haussman-magenta
It is a new deep level 'tube' connecting two existing main lines (with a spur to another, but there will be no through trains initially).

21km of new deep-level tunnel is currently being simultaneously constructed.
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Old August 10th, 2012, 02:40 PM   #2883
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The paper also features a handy warning about the Tube system, “When you are taller than six feet, you have to be very careful with those slanted doors,” but that’s one of the few criticisms of what the LA Times calls “London's aging transit network”.
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Old August 10th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #2884
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What you don't seem to understand is that you are just repeating the bleedin' obvious. EVERYONE knows the tube trains are small, EVERYONE knows why, and EVERYONE knows nothing can or will be done about it.

You may as well say "I don't like wind on the platform when the train is approaching". Suck it up.
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Old August 10th, 2012, 03:51 PM   #2885
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who say "troll"
Nobody is saying that the trains are not small. It has been explained to you time and time again why they are small but you choose not to listen. It has also been explained to you over and over again why it would be impossible to make them bigger, but again you don't listen.

Every time you come to this thread you make the point about the size over and over again, and I find it hard to believe that you are 'just talking' when you must surely be aware of the reaction you will get. That is why some people interpret your behaviour the way that they do.
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Old August 10th, 2012, 03:53 PM   #2886
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Eh... no-one has denied the trains being small. You stated they were TOO small as if them being small was NEW information. We all knew of this problem before you brought it up, we all would like things not to be so. Either you've never heard of this before (i.e. never even seen a picture of the trains) or you wanted to get some trolling on; that's what it looks like to the rest of us.
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Old August 10th, 2012, 09:48 PM   #2887
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Ok we agree -> it is small

stop now
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Old August 10th, 2012, 10:17 PM   #2888
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Still, ageism is no excuse at rationalising the multitude of neck spraining tunnels
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Old August 10th, 2012, 10:18 PM   #2889
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Careful with how this discussion is going. Please keep it on topic and don't make obvious trolling statements to rile other members.
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Frankly, I wonder when EU regs might oblige enlarging the tube tunnels for adequate evacuation in the event of emergencies ... telling passengers to avoid contacting one of the middle rails just wouldn't be fair.
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Frankly, I wonder when EU regs might oblige enlarging the tube tunnels for adequate evacuation in the event of emergencies ... telling passengers to avoid contacting one of the middle rails just wouldn't be fair.
Obviously in evacuation all live rails would be isolated and power shut off if it was that urgent that passengers would be de-trained.

As for adequate evacuation, a lot of metro systems have issues with how to deal with passengers during emergency evacuations so I don't think that is just isolated to the LU.
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Old August 10th, 2012, 11:16 PM   #2892
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Still, ageism is no excuse at rationalising the multitude of neck spraining tunnels
Shouldn't have drunk all your milk and ate all your greens. It's your own fault that you are in the top percent or two of population by height and have to duck to get in the door.

PS - you could move into the middle of the train, or request a seat if your neck is spraining due to being couped up in the tiny train
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Old August 11th, 2012, 12:08 AM   #2893
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Old August 11th, 2012, 12:40 AM   #2894
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Ageism: How many of us would really categorise that line old, right?

I had both watched Cameron in that video clip (lodged in the previous page) and had twice replayed the part where he ducked when boarding the train, because it appears his dodging the door frame isn't necessary in the slightest Even folks of average height have to crook their necks if they're bunched up against the closed doors in a crowded train.
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Old August 11th, 2012, 01:17 AM   #2895
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What annoyed me most (apart from him) is the fact that they all stood on the way down to the platform! Annoying!!
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Old August 11th, 2012, 04:36 AM   #2896
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Wow months of no posts then BASH page & a haft.
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Old August 11th, 2012, 08:13 PM   #2897
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Old August 13th, 2012, 07:27 PM   #2898
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Forget the Northern line extension from Kennington to Battersea - this looks like a major new project!

(Humorous signs pointing directions to the Rio de Janeiro 2016 games have been put up at Stratford station Credit: Simon Harris/ITN)
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