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Old September 12th, 2012, 12:43 AM   #2981
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Curvy platforms and different platform/train heights haven't stopped Paris fitting platform screen doors as part of the automation of their Metro lines. The appearance is admittedly not as neat as the new-build Line 14 or JLE, but it seems to work just fine.
Interesting. How do they address the issue of potentially large gaps between the platform screen door and the train?
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Old September 12th, 2012, 07:30 AM   #2982
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Old September 12th, 2012, 01:29 PM   #2983
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Old September 12th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #2984
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Dr. Roberts the tube map man is at it again (BBC): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-19546145
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Old September 12th, 2012, 08:28 PM   #2985
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He kept the river on his (pictured in the article) improved map - madness!

I'm guessing he kept it, and the 45 degrees, because too much change and TfL would certainly not like it.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 08:40 PM   #2986
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They tried removing the Thames in late-2009: the public didn't like it.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 09:45 PM   #2987
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Dr Roberts was in all the press discussion on that saying "well done TfL, the river is pointless - I've proven it hinders navigation".
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Old September 13th, 2012, 01:58 AM   #2988
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Old September 13th, 2012, 04:06 PM   #2989
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I wonder if there's a case for fitting PSDs on the DLR. The stations are already built to modern specs(straight platforms, and little gap or height difference between the platform and trains), and the safety improvement is possibly greater since I'm not aware(correct me if I'm wrong) of any method for the driverless trains to detect a person on the track and stop, and I've read of incidents of people being run over by them after accidentally falling into the tracks, as opposed to suicides where they deliberately don't give the train a chance to stop.
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Old September 14th, 2012, 09:21 AM   #2990
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I wonder if there's a case for fitting PSDs on the DLR. The stations are already built to modern specs(straight platforms, and little gap or height difference between the platform and trains), and the safety improvement is possibly greater since I'm not aware(correct me if I'm wrong) of any method for the driverless trains to detect a person on the track and stop, and I've read of incidents of people being run over by them after accidentally falling into the tracks, as opposed to suicides where they deliberately don't give the train a chance to stop.
Obstacle detection is fairly commonplace on driverless ATO systems.

The PEDs on the Jubilee Line are primarily due to the emergency tunnel vent system rather than a desire to prevent people getting onto the track (although this is of course a side benefit).

People do accidentally fall onto tracks from time to time, although in the 25 years that the DLR has operated I can only recall this horrible case where a Portuguese student was pushed in front of a DLR train by a gang at Shadwell.

Decisions are made from a cost-benefit perspective... if people fell under DLR trains daily, then there'd be a compelling case to install PEDs... but if it's one fatality every 25 years, the financial case doesn't stack up.
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Old September 14th, 2012, 02:43 PM   #2991
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What is the general imperative behind installing PSDs elsewhere? Is it simply to stop people getting on to the tracks intentionally or otherwise?
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Old September 14th, 2012, 09:31 PM   #2993
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Old September 15th, 2012, 12:21 AM   #2994
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What happened to your cardinal rule, I was admiring seeing the stations you photograph in full?
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Old September 15th, 2012, 06:31 AM   #2995
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Old September 15th, 2012, 06:37 AM   #2996
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What happened to your cardinal rule, I was admiring seeing the stations you photograph in full?
I was ill for a few days so I did a double bill. But we're back on track.
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Old September 15th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #2997
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Oxymoron? maybe I should've written 'empty' instead of "in full"
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This picture makes it look like the platform and the train tracks are at the same level.
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Some stations on what was once the City and South London Railway did have a very low platform height in addition to the small tunnel size of at most 10"6'.
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