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Old July 25th, 2014, 02:33 AM   #3601
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Old July 25th, 2014, 04:40 AM   #3602
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Old July 25th, 2014, 11:48 AM   #3603
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Hope you got your permit before taking all these pictures.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 12:46 PM   #3604
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Hope you got your permit before taking all these pictures.
No, I don't.
I think that applies only to professional film crews or photographers (for example doing fashion shots) rather than ordinary Londoners or tourists.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 02:34 PM   #3605
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No, I don't.
I think that applies only to professional film crews or photographers (for example doing fashion shots) rather than ordinary Londoners or tourists.
Seemingly not, though that does seem excessive and incredibly difficult to obtain for the enthusiast just wanting some pictures for hobby purposes...
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Permits and costs
If you want to film or take photographs on the Tube you must ask permission ahead of time from the London Underground (LU) Film Office.

All permit requests must be made in writing, using our downloadable application form.

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Non-professional permit*

Crew or group size of five or less
Handheld equipment only
Cost: £50 including VAT - valid for one month
Not for publication or broadcast*
* The permit holder is not permitted to publish or broadcast without the prior permission of London Underground. Licence to Publish Contracts start at £300, please contact us for more information.

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Apply for a permit
Before you start your application, make sure you have all the following additional documentation:

Relevant copy of script/storyboard/brief/layout
Head and shoulders photograph (for non-professional permit only)
Certificate of insurance
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Old July 25th, 2014, 03:58 PM   #3606
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Seemingly not, though that does seem excessive and incredibly difficult to obtain for the enthusiast just wanting some pictures for hobby purposes...
In that case it must be a joke.
Photography permit in the era of smartphones and digital cameras???


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Old July 25th, 2014, 05:19 PM   #3607
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This probably was conjured up by someone who's been sitting behind a desk since the beginning of time, in a windowless basement office at the far end of a long forgotten corridor. In order to get out and step into the real world, that person would probably have to apply to a hundred different, unrelated authorities using forms 121A, 121A-bis, 15.2.2.21, AXP1204 and 01Zq.15a in Cyrillic handwriting.

Which might explain why this policy is so far off from today's reality of smartphones and completely unenforceable.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 05:49 PM   #3608
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I think that "non proffesional permit" is more intended for people making larger productions that just taking some pictures of the stations, such as cinematography students making short films for academic purposes.

It says "Crew or group size of five or less" implying there could be a relatively large production involving models, actors and/or some technical personnel.

It also asks for "Relevant copy of script/storyboard/brief/layout" also implying a relatively elaborate work.

The Underground is full of tourists taking pictures anyway.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 07:04 AM   #3609
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What is it all about? If I turn up at the Tube and start taking pictures without this permit, will they detain me? I've got my Mark III when I travel. Is it considered a professional device.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 11:24 AM   #3610
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It's essentially a way to turn a blind eye, while reserving the right to seize someone's material just in case. Also note that filming vandalism is also prohibited.

That's because they fear anti-social behaviour in the Tube could become known to the wider public.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 11:37 AM   #3611
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Do you know what is "proffesional permission" and how much does it cost?
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Old July 28th, 2014, 01:12 PM   #3612
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You can't stop photography in this age of smart phones. I work for a local authority museum service and we have had to relax general photography rules as the old ones had become un-enforcable. We still require a permit (paid for) for Academic or professional filming or professional photography.with the millions passing through the tube a blanket permit would be in enforceable. I thought the general rule was no flash on platforms as it could affect the sight of drivers as a train emerges from a tunnel
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Old July 31st, 2014, 02:45 AM   #3613
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Old July 31st, 2014, 09:17 AM   #3614
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The Mayor of London has published proposals for new infrastructure projects in London by 2050. Here what he wants for London's transport:
  • More 24/7 transit operations
  • Capacity and reliability improvements
  • HS2
  • Station upgrades
  • Overground extensions and upgrades
  • Crossrail 2
  • South London metro
  • Tram and light rail upgrade and extensions
  • Bakerloo line extension
  • Extensive rail based orbital network
  • Click and collect services
  • Seamless customer information
  • Cooler tube
  • Autonomus vehicles mainstream
  • Ultra low emission transport system
  • More fully accessible public transport
More you can find here:
https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/defa...esentation.pdf
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Old July 31st, 2014, 12:42 PM   #3615
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Doesn't sound like a very ambitious program. There should be a massive plan to get rid of buses in most of London and replace them by new tube and, where warranted, overground light-rail. There should be some 5-6 new projects like DLR as well.
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Old July 31st, 2014, 01:54 PM   #3616
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Doesn't sound like a very ambitious program. There should be a massive plan to get rid of buses in most of London and replace them by new tube and, where warranted, overground light-rail. There should be some 5-6 new projects like DLR as well.
It's £1.3tn worth of spending though. Replacing buses by tube lines is unrealistic because of the frequency of bus stops and the fact that the central area where lots of buses converge is already packed full of underground lines. Really you'd be aiming to replace the current bus fleet with either tram routes or hydrogen vehicles. Instead of pissing around with the NBfL you'd have invested in either proper electric buses or hydrogen buses. Trams in the centre of London sounds like a nightmare but as more and more measures are being put in place to deter cars from entering the Central area trams wouldn't be that hard to put in and they're not going yo be high floor like ours are in manchester so the real disruption would just be the tracks.

It sounds like the plan wants more LO conquests of the franchised rail network. I'm guessing that when the southeastern franchise comes up for renewal TfL will do their best to takeover the southeastern metro routes, and probably when the new TSGN franchise ends they'll try and take over the southern metro routes.

It's very ambitious to try and make 2/3 of journeys fully accessible that'll certainly needs lots of money thrown at it.
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Old July 31st, 2014, 02:40 PM   #3617
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If London had wider avenues and streets, some monorail lines could help as well, but that is unfortunately not the case.
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Old July 31st, 2014, 06:52 PM   #3618
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If London had wider avenues and streets, some monorail lines could help as well, but that is unfortunately not the case.
I hear those things are awfully loud

The plan is both very ambitious, and not that ambitious at the same time. No DLR extensions, much of the transport spending coming from Thames Gateway Airport related schemes that won't happen as the airport won't (and the £1.3tn becomes £1tn come the Airports Commission report), only one tube extension (Bakerloo to Hayes and Beckenham Junction/Grove Park) and only two tram extensions (Sutton and the short East Croydon loop).

A lot of it is heavily investing in the current network - higher frequencies, station improvements, etc. London is getting bigger by getting denser and while a few chords and a new East London river crossing making a messy Overground circle, the Sutton Tramlink, Bakerloo extensions and Crossrail 2 (and maybe CR3) will enable new journeys, most of the plan is about making existing journeys better with less pollution, (sometimes) faster, (sometimes) longer and more frequent trains.
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Old August 2nd, 2014, 05:29 PM   #3619
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If London had wider avenues and streets, some monorail lines could help as well, but that is unfortunately not the case.
Sydney here in Australia had a monorail that was built in the '80s and demolished last year. Not only was it more expensive to build than a similar light rail system it was also an absolute eyesore. The thought of a similar system being built in London leaves me cold...
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Man, please, change your fetish...
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