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Old January 21st, 2015, 06:35 PM   #3801
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That being said, once EGIP is complete and the fleet of Turbostars which run the line are free to be cascaded on to other routes, the Pacers will probably be replaced with Scotrail's Sprinter fleet.
No the franchise commitments clearly state that Abellio will return all 170s to the leasing company upon completion of the HST project and electrification. The 156s and 158s will be retained for boarders, highland and other services. After all the 156s are the only units clear on the West Highland Line.
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Old January 22nd, 2015, 08:14 PM   #3802
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After the current District stock switchover happens next year, are the any other lines/stocks earmarked for retirement? Bakerloo feels outdated but not heard anything of them being replaced.
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Old January 22nd, 2015, 08:26 PM   #3803
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After the current District stock switchover happens next year, are the any other lines/stocks earmarked for retirement? Bakerloo feels outdated but not heard anything of them being replaced.
The Deep level tube stock is unsutable for anything other than deep level tube - too small.

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In terms of timescales and train orders, the initial order will be for 250 trains – 100 each for the Piccadilly and Central Lines, 40 for the Bakerloo and 10 for the Waterloo & City. A formal Invitation to Tender is expected to be issued in early 2015 and the contract awarded in 2016, with what one might regard as “the usual suspects” shortlisted for bidding – Alstom, Siemens, Hitachi, CAF and Bombardier. The anticipated delivery dates by line can be found later in this article.
TfL have confirmed that the current schedule for deployment begins with the Piccadilly Line in 2022, to be finished by 2025. This is to be followed by the Bakerloo Line, completing in 2027 and the Central Line/Waterloo & City to be completed by 2032.
http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...-train-driver/

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Old January 22nd, 2015, 09:17 PM   #3804
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The Deep level tube stock is unsutable for anything other than deep level tube - too small.



http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...-train-driver/

Please do not make this into a north south argument.
or the ryde shanklin line that uses 1938 tube stock due to height restrictions in Ryde tunnel and the sharpness of the curve through Ryde Esplanade station..
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Old January 22nd, 2015, 09:37 PM   #3805
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or the ryde shanklin line that uses 1938 tube stock due to height restrictions in Ryde tunnel and the sharpness of the curve through Ryde Esplanade station..
Touche - I keep meeing to take a trip over
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 09:09 PM   #3806
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After the current District stock switchover happens next year, are the any other lines/stocks earmarked for retirement? Bakerloo feels outdated but not heard anything of them being replaced.

Yup. Bakerloo, Picadilly, Central and Waterloo and City line from 2022: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...look-like.html


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Old January 27th, 2015, 03:19 PM   #3807
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Interesting that video suggests that Platform Doors will be impemented on exisitng lines as it showed it on the Piccadilly line
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Old January 27th, 2015, 07:05 PM   #3808
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Interesting that video suggests that Platform Doors will be impemented on exisitng lines as it showed it on the Piccadilly line
There are some issues with that as Rayners Lane – Uxbridge stretch of line, which is shared with Metropolitan Line S8 stock. - I have not been to those so not sure if they are totally separate platforms

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Old January 27th, 2015, 07:54 PM   #3809
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Same platforms..
Presuming that the "more doors" means that it won't be possible for screen doors there to accommodate drastically different rolling stock, perhaps that bit will be the last stretch of the Piccadilly / first stretch of the metropolitan? The plan is for new trains to start arriving in a decade, going to take a long time for TFL to work its way through all the stations/lines
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Old January 27th, 2015, 08:02 PM   #3810
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Same platforms..
Presuming that the "more doors" means that it won't be possible for screen doors there to accommodate drastically different rolling stock, perhaps that bit will be the last stretch of the Piccadilly / first stretch of the metropolitan? The plan is for new trains to start arriving in a decade, going to take a long time for TFL to work its way through all the stations/lines
I think it will probably be only on the busiest stations and the ones on the edge don't get anything
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Old January 27th, 2015, 08:51 PM   #3811
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Japan is working on a system that allows two different sets of rolling stock use the same platform screen doors. Maybe that could be brought in? I know they were working in it 1-2 years ago at the prototype stage, so maybe by the time that they are getting ready to install, it would be ready?
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Old January 29th, 2015, 02:28 PM   #3812
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EIB to fund London Underground extension
Thursday, January 29, 2015



THE European Investment Bank (EIB) has agreed to fund £480m towards the extension of London Underground's Northern Line to Battersea, which is due to be operational by 2020

The long-term loan represents nearly 50% of the overall project cost and is to be repaid from a combination of contributions from the developments in the area that will benefit from the extension and business rates from property developed in the Nine Elms Enterprise Zone

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Old January 30th, 2015, 03:28 PM   #3813
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Official from TfL:

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New London Tramlink Sunday service proving popular
28 January 2015

London Tramlink customers are taking advantage of the more frequent Sunday service between Wimbledon and New Addington via Croydon town centre in increasing numbers.

One month after the extra services were introduced the number of passengers using the line on Sundays has already risen by almost 10% from an average of 39,834 to 44,330.

The new services were introduced on 14 December 2014, with trams running every seven to eight minutes on this route (Line 3) compared to the previous frequency of every 15 minutes

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Old January 30th, 2015, 06:12 PM   #3814
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Capacity doubled, but ridership going up 10% is big news? Sounds a bit disappointing but maybe this service frequency was increased as it was incredibly busy..
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Old February 15th, 2015, 09:34 AM   #3815
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Commuters face 'nightmare' at Finsbury Park as station entrance to close for TWO YEARS
13 February 2015









Commuters have said they fear "nightmare" overcrowding at a major north London station after plans to close one of its main entrances were revealed.

Transport for London is planning to shut the Wells Terrace entrance of Finsbury Park station from next month.

The entrance, one of three at the station, will be replaced by a new gate which is not set to open until October 2017

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Old February 16th, 2015, 09:02 AM   #3816
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Official from Croxley Rail Link website:

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Croxley Rail Link update
15 February 2015

Hertfordshire County Council remains committed to the Croxley Rail Link, and is working together with the scheme’s partner organisations to achieve the best outcome for this important project

A report detailing the preferred model to enable the delivery of the scheme will go to the council's Cabinet on Monday 23 February where they will be asked to give approval of the proposed financing of the county council's contribution to the project.

The Croxley Rail Link will provide significant benefits for Watford's local economy as well as contributing toward the Mayor of London's growth aspirations

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Old February 17th, 2015, 11:26 PM   #3817
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From 8–30 August, Victoria line trains will be cut back from Walthamstow Central to Seven Sisters so that they can replace the crossovers near the terminus. But it's a diamond crossover, so I can't see what is wrong with the layout.

There is already (under normal service) a train every 100 seconds (36 tph) between Brixton and Seven Sisters. The current crossovers at Walthamstow mean that only a train every 150 seconds (24 tph) can go east of Seven Sisters to Walthamstow.

London is still committed to joining the 24-hour metro club with the Victoria line and four others in mid-September.
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Old February 18th, 2015, 12:12 AM   #3818
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But it's a diamond crossover, so I can't see what is wrong with the layout.
The crossovers are too low a speed to allow 36tph through. They need to be more gentle diverges/merges so that trains crossing over can do so at a higher speed and thus take less time to pass through it.
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Old February 18th, 2015, 12:23 AM   #3819
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I have a question, more like historical background: why has the Metropolitan Line branched out so far out of inner London, whereas other lines stopped just short of the Green Belt?

Moreover, is there some reason (geology, for instance) that explain why there is so few tube stations and lines south of the Thames?
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Old February 18th, 2015, 12:41 AM   #3820
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The rail network south of the Thames is pretty dense, see here:
http://www.cityrailtransit.com/maps/london_map.htm
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