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Old February 18th, 2015, 03:26 PM   #3821
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I have a question, more like historical background: why has the Metropolitan Line branched out so far out of inner London, whereas other lines stopped just short of the Green Belt?

Moreover, is there some reason (geology, for instance) that explain why there is so few tube stations and lines south of the Thames?
Because it was the first line to be built and so constructed it's route way before WWII and the green belt regulations came in after the war. The northern line on the other hand was being expanded as part of the new works program which was paused during the war and wasn't restarted hence why we don't have northern line services to Bushey Heights.

Yes the geology is quite poor south of the Thames however they are lucky in that there is an extensive network of suburban railways which were electrified by the Southern in the 20s and 30s.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 02:25 AM   #3822
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I have a question, more like historical background: why has the Metropolitan Line branched out so far out of inner London, whereas other lines stopped just short of the Green Belt?

Moreover, is there some reason (geology, for instance) that explain why there is so few tube stations and lines south of the Thames?
Never mind, i thought i was reacting to the last posting, which is -quite obviously-, not the case..
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Old February 20th, 2015, 12:53 AM   #3823
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I have a question, more like historical background: why has the Metropolitan Line branched out so far out of inner London, whereas other lines stopped just short of the Green Belt?

Moreover, is there some reason (geology, for instance) that explain why there is so few tube stations and lines south of the Thames?
The metropolitan line used to be even longer. The farthest terminus was Verney Junction, about 45km from Amersham! The Metropolitan Railway did not only build the line, but also the housing. The area was known as 'Metro-land'.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 05:07 PM   #3824
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Photos of renovated Hammersmith tube station, terminus Hammersmith & City and Cirlce lines. Official from TfL:


TfL Image - Hammersmith Station upgrade by Transport for London Press Images, on Flickr


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TfL Image - Hammersmith Station upgrade by Transport for London Press Images, on Flickr


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TfL Image - Hammersmith Station upgrade by Transport for London Press Images, on Flickr

My review on this station - it looked much better than it was before and it's much more simplier in way of passenger flow. And nice decoration and designs makes feel that this is real terminus station indeed
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Old February 20th, 2015, 05:15 PM   #3825
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All-night services to be extended in London
20 Feb 2015



UK: Mayor of London Boris Johnson and Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne announced on February 20 that all-night weekend services are to be extended to London Underground’s sub-surface lines, part of London Overground’s East London Line and the Docklands Light Railway.

All-night services on Friday and Saturday nights are scheduled to begin on the Victoria, Jubilee, Piccadilly, Central and Northern lines from September this year under plans announced in 2013

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Old February 21st, 2015, 02:55 AM   #3826
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Does DLR really need an all night weekend service? I know it's run by a computer but still.

Okay maybe for services to Woolwich Arsenal and to Lewisham for those travelling cross river, they make sense.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 03:06 AM   #3827
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Hammersmith looking very nice indeed. Although I'd still prefer it with the newsagents it used to have rather than the hipster food joint.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 03:42 AM   #3828
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London doesn't seem to have a 24-hour culture from what I see because at 3am it is so sleepy.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 01:12 PM   #3829
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London doesn't seem to have a 24-hour culture from what I see because at 3am it is so sleepy.
Part of that is all the people who have to get the last train home. Part of that is that at 3am, you'll be inside somewhere rather than leaving/arriving.

Also depends where you are - there's pockets of nightlife, but the streets of The City, for instance, wind right down at the end of office hours.

24h tube will go a long way towards helping. Sure there's night buses, but bus networks are harder to memorise.

But I think, other than status, the aim isn't about party people, but about cleaners, nurses, etc that have to get to work early / come back late.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 06:25 PM   #3830
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Huh, night busnetwork is harder to memorise?
How did you stumble upon that conclusion?
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Old February 21st, 2015, 06:57 PM   #3831
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Huh, night busnetwork is harder to memorise?
How did you stumble upon that conclusion?
More complex network, and a less-ubiquitous and much harder-to-use map.

Sure, like with rail routes, you'd have one night bus route serving where you live (if it gets that far out), but you'd have to get to a stop on that route, and (like all buses) that is something harder to work out. Either you can't stray from the route, or you'd have to walk to the route (as changing buses costs money).

As such, leisure travellers (especially from outside Zone 3) either book a hotel, go home on the first train, drive (perhaps not for zone 1, but say Camden or whatever) or make a mad dash for the last train.
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Old February 22nd, 2015, 03:45 AM   #3832
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I have a question, more like historical background: why has the Metropolitan Line branched out so far out of inner London, whereas other lines stopped just short of the Green Belt?

Moreover, is there some reason (geology, for instance) that explain why there is so few tube stations and lines south of the Thames?
It went even further. Initially, there was little conceptual distinction between the tube lines and other rail lines. Being the first "Metro" in the world, the Underground was not conceptualized as such, hence the Metropolitan line was extended into what (before the Green Belt laws) was thought of as a future extension of suburbia.

As for South London, as others have said, dense rail network already in place plus low population density, save a few Thames-side areas.
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Old February 22nd, 2015, 09:14 AM   #3833
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Sidings of Lillie Bridge depot for District line trains in Earls Court - the area, which in the next 10-20 years will look very different. Taken by Rukuphotos:
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 06:33 PM   #3834
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From Construction Enquirer:

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High-rise plan for London Tube station
Mon 2nd March 2015, 7:00


The development site combines three sites: a vacant office building, Algarve House; adjacent land owned by TfL including the air space above Southwark Underground station; and further land around the station owned by the London Borough of Southwark

Development Securities and Transport for London has formed a joint venture to create a mixed-use scheme at Southwark Underground station

The one-acre site above and around the London Underground station on Blackfriars Road has potential for a 225,00 sq ft landmark scheme, led with 300 flats.

Located between the Elephant and Castle regeneration area and the South Bank, the high rise project including developing air-rights would deliver over 300 flats as well as shops and restaurants

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Old March 12th, 2015, 01:00 AM   #3835
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Northern line – from about 1989...

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Old March 18th, 2015, 05:01 PM   #3836
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Official from TfL:

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TBMs ordered to build Northern Line Extension to Battersea
18 March 2015

Contract awarded to design, manufacture and deliver two Tunnel Boring Machines (TBM) that will build the Northern line extension

London Underground (LU) today announced that the contract to design, manufacture and deliver two Tunnel Boring Machines (TBM) that will build the Northern line extension has been awarded to NFM Technologies.

Ferrovial Agroman Laing O'Rourke Joint Venture (FLO), who LU has contracted to design and build the Northern line extension, plans to launch the TBMs in summer 2016, when the machines will begin their seven month 2.5km journey from Battersea to Kennington.

Each TBM "cutting head", which will do the excavation work, will be just over six metres in diameter and the full machine itself will be 106 metres long - equivalent to the length of the pitch at Wembley Stadium

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Croxley Rail Link: Trains to start running in 2018
Thursday 19 March 2015



THE Croxley Rail Link project will be completed in 2018 and the Chancellor has said it “will have real benefits for people living in and around Watford”.

The scheme, which Government documents show will cost £284.4 million, was given the green light on Tuesday morning and trains will be running in 2018, Watford’s mayor has confirmed.

Government documents seen by the Watford Observer indicate the Government will be spending £109.67 million on the project.

The documents, which were formally approved by Chancellor George Osborne in Wednesday’s Budget added: “The scheme lies at the heart of Watford’s growth plans- with the borough council’s Local Plan focusing on sites connected to the scheme.

“The plan identifies six ‘special policy areas’ for housing and commercial development, five of which are served by the Rail Link.”
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London Underground modernisation budget and timescale revised
24 Mar 2015



UK: Transport for London confirmed a revised budget and timescale for the ongoing programme to modernise London Underground’s District, Circle Metropolitan and Hammersmith & City lines on March 24.

LU and sole bidder Thales are now in the final stages of negotiating a major contract to resignal the four lines, which carry 1·3 million passengers/day. TfL describes this as ‘one of the most complex signalling projects in the world with more complex junctions than most other metros’.

The deal with Thales would replace a contract with Bombardier which TfL awarded in June 2011 but terminated in December 2013. According to TfL, the ‘complex nature of the railway meant that Bombardier’s signalling modernisation programme was simply not progressing and there was no guarantee it would have worked’. The contract with Bombardier had itself replaced a previous contract awarded by Metronet to Invensys under the London Underground public-private partnership

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London Underground takes over Croxley Rail Link project
27 Mar 2015



UK: London Underground is to take over responsibility for the Croxley Rail Link project, under an agreement with the Department for Transport and Hertfordshire County Council which was formally announced on March 27.

The project involves the diversion of the Metropolitan Line from its current Watford terminus to serve Watford High Street and Watford Junction stations, as well as two new stations at Cassiobridge and Watford Vicarage Road. Most of the route would follow the alignment of a closed branch line. Construction is planned to start this year for opening in 2019. The existing Metropolitan Line station would then close

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PDF document on Nine Elms station consultation:
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