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Old October 14th, 2015, 09:26 PM   #4021
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Enough said : a metro line would not have been economically nor technically convenient, and they're building a Crossrail line instead.

Therefore, existing metro lines were not doing what a Crossrail line can.
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Old October 14th, 2015, 10:20 PM   #4022
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Consultation on new Cadmen Town station redevelopment plans has been launched:
https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/ne...-have-your-say
https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub...n-town-upgrade
http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...ation-upgrade/







Proposed changes:
  • New second entrance and exit to the station
  • More escalators
  • Step-free access from the street to trains
  • More space to change between trains

I really hope that these plans will move forward
http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...-town-station/
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Old October 14th, 2015, 10:23 PM   #4023
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a metro line would not have been economically nor technically convenient, and they're building a Crossrail line instead.
Ah, we have one of those people who just reads what they think is written, not what is written.

A metro line would have still been economically and technically convenient, but a mainline gauge line is now, for the first time, economically and technically convenient and so it might as well be built to that higher standard.
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Therefore, existing metro lines were not doing what a Crossrail line can.
Serving the outer suburbs? - see every tube line but the Hammersmith & City, Circle and Waterloo & City.

Removing suburban railway trains from termini? - see the H&C/Circle, District, Piccadilly, Central and Northern lines.

Going fast across the centre? - see the Victoria line as the prime example, but others are also quick (especially when compared with Paris).

Carrying lots of people? - see the Victoria line, which can carry about 41000 passengers/hour past a point in one direction. Crossrail can only carry 36000 passengers/hour without further upgrades (which will, sure, bring it above the Victoria line). The difference in carrying capacity between the automatic metro and regional crossrail options for Crossrail 2 were very small (44k/hour 1100ppl @ 40tph v 45k/hour 1500ppl @ 30tph) and the key reason why the regional approach was taken was easier take over of suburban railways and the ability to more reliably branch.

There's no real reason why Crossrail is mainline railway, rather than a new tube line, other than there being no real reason why it needs to be a new tube line.
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Old October 14th, 2015, 10:28 PM   #4024
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Is it really only the second attempt? I would have hoped we're on "third time's a charm" by now!

Hopefully it get's built - it's needed even without the split of the line.
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Old October 15th, 2015, 10:29 AM   #4025
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Great article on the Camden Town situation with some of the history explained. Put things into perspective for me, including why it wasn't done years ago and why the new try at getting it done is looking far, far more likely to succeed.

With the Northern line being split (after first being extended to the south), with crossrail 1 and 2 on the way... Is there a map anywhere that is keeping track of these changes?
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Old October 21st, 2015, 12:36 AM   #4026
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Incline Lift At Greenford Station

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Old October 21st, 2015, 08:33 AM   #4027
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That's nice, I would hope see them on other stations. This Crossrail article said that other lifts will be installed at Hammersmith and Bank stations, but I have doubts that such lifts would be installed on these locations:
http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/arti...blic-transport
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Those are quite common in the Stockholm subway system. Mostly at deep stations where elevators with vertical shafts would result in the elevators either surfacing so far away from the escalators that it'd need it's own ticket barrier or result in far to long a walk-tunnel to get from the trains to the elevator.
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Old November 3rd, 2015, 05:34 PM   #4029
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From Your Local Guardian:

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Open for business: New platform means increase in trams between Wimbledon and Croydon
11:30, Tuesday 3 November 2015



Trams will now be running between Wimbledon station and Croydon again as a new platform was unveiled yesterday by former transport minister and Wimbledon MP Stephen Hammond.

Passengers have had to walk to Dundonald Road tram stop to pick up services to and from Croydon while work was going on, but Wimbledon has now been re-opened

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And press image from TfL:


TfL image - New London Tram platform open in Wimbledon by Transport for London, on Flickr
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Old November 3rd, 2015, 05:40 PM   #4030
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And just think! This will soon be demolished to make way for Crossrail 2!
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Old November 5th, 2015, 05:00 PM   #4031
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Some more photos on new tram platform:
http://anonw.com/2015/11/03/the-tram...ledon-station/







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Old November 5th, 2015, 10:42 PM   #4032
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And just think! This will soon be demolished to make way for Crossrail 2!
This true? Why is that?
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Old November 6th, 2015, 04:29 AM   #4033
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This true? Why is that?
Crossrail 2 plans: Tooting station axed and Wimbledon shopping centre demolition

The Wimbledon shopping centre is just next to the Tramlink platform.
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Old November 7th, 2015, 11:09 AM   #4034
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Official from TfL:

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Bank station: work starts on a new entrance
05 November 2015

New Tube entrance will offer access to the Waterloo & City line from Walbrook Square when it opens in late 2017

London Underground (LU) has begun work on a new entrance to Bank Tube station that will significantly reduce congestion through the station, one of the busiest on the network.

Just metres away from Walbrook Square, the new entrance to the Waterloo & City line will offer two new lifts, four new escalators and a new ticket hall when it opens in late 2017

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New entrance will be at the centre of new Bloomberg's European HQ. This is how site looks in October:

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And this is how new entrace will look like - photos official from TfL:


TfL Image - Bank station: new Waterloo &amp; City line entrance 1 by Transport for London, on Flickr


TfL Image - Bank station: new Waterloo &amp; City line entrance 2 by Transport for London, on Flickr


TfL Image - Bank station: new Waterloo &amp; City line entrance 3 by Transport for London, on Flickr


TfL Image - Bank station: new Waterloo &amp; City line entrance 4 by Transport for London, on Flickr
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Old November 9th, 2015, 05:16 PM   #4035
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Bland and boring. Where's the Night Tube gone, btw?
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Old November 9th, 2015, 07:47 PM   #4036
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Where's the Night Tube gone, btw?
Disappeared - the management wanted the drivers to do night shifts without any increase in pay, and the drivers told them where to get off. So they're back at the negotiating table trying to agree on a shift system.
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Disappeared - the management wanted the drivers to do night shifts without any increase in pay, and the drivers told them where to get off. So they're back at the negotiating table trying to agree on a shift system.
Just a slight correction to that... the divers were generally in favour - it was the station staff who were not happy and called the strike.
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Just a quick mock-up of my Tube map for the newly included zone 2/3 stations.
I know it looks remotely pretty. Blame TfL or Boris.

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Old November 14th, 2015, 03:56 PM   #4039
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Bromley-by-Bow, Pudding Mill Lane and East India will become Zone 2 stations.

The key reason why they were 2/3 was to allow cheaper tickets to the stations just further out that were major centres (Zone 3 ticket, rather than zone 2 and 3). With those major centres now in zone 2/3, it is still a one-zone ticket.
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Bromley-by-Bow, Pudding Mill Lane and East India will become Zone 2 stations.

The key reason why they were 2/3 was to allow cheaper tickets to the stations just further out that were major centres (Zone 3 ticket, rather than zone 2 and 3). With those major centres now in zone 2/3, it is still a one-zone ticket.
But StationMaster claims that Bromley-by-Bow, Pudding Mill Lane and East India will retain in zone 2/3...
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