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Old November 11th, 2007, 11:22 PM   #601
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The addition of the 'London Overground' has turned a map that was famous for it's clarity into a tangarine mess.

See here: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/1106.aspx
it's not a mess, it's the same map. only with new overground lines on.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 11:33 PM   #602
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Thanks for the heads up, Falubaz.
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Old December 1st, 2007, 03:46 PM   #603
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Pay-by-mobile phone trial starts in London

LONDON, Nov 28 (Reuters) - Shoppers in the British capital will be able to buy Underground tickets and newspapers with a wave of their mobile phone rather than cash during a trial starting on Wednesday.

Hundreds of people have been given special handsets fitted with a built-in credit card and Oyster card, the device used to pay for train and bus tickets in London.

When the phone is passed over a scanner in stations or shops, money is deducted from the mobile phone as payment, the trial's organisers said.

People can spend up to 10 pounds at a time at selected shops and cafes, including cafe chain Coffee Republic, alcohol retailer Threshers and book shop Books Etc.

Wireless transactions are common in some countries, such as Japan, where consumers already use mobiles to pay for everything from burgers to train tickets.

Organisers say that if the six-month London trial is a success the scheme could be extended to include bigger payments, more shops and concerts and plays.

Those taking part will receive 50 pounds ($103.2) worth of Oyster journeys, 60 pounds off their O2 phone bill and 200 pounds to spend with the in-built Barclaycard.

The companies behind the trial include Transport for London, mobile phone firm O2, Barclaycard, Visa Europe, and Nokia.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 09:50 PM   #604
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Fake email about LU and phones

opps sorry. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4724101.stm

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Old December 3rd, 2007, 08:37 PM   #605
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What happenned? Was it a myth?
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Old January 17th, 2008, 07:08 PM   #606
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Old January 18th, 2008, 01:03 PM   #607
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mm, I loved circle line more. It was like urban strike, so old and specific. We slept two rings in circle line because we were so tired after Fabric night club. And that club was awesome!
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Old January 18th, 2008, 02:21 PM   #608
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mm, I loved circle line more. It was like urban strike, so old and specific. We slept two rings in circle line because we were so tired after Fabric night club. And that club was awesome!
And I once done the circle line pub crawl. 28 stations from memory (including a final drink at the pub we started in) in 12 hours. 11am to 11pm. Wasn't as easy as it sounds (well, 28pints is never easy) but consider the time to wait at the bar, drink the pint, take a piss, find the closest station, wait for the next train and then hit the next pub.

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Old January 18th, 2008, 05:15 PM   #609
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And I once done the circle line pub crawl. 28 stations from memory (including a final drink at the pub we started in) in 12 hours. 11am to 11pm. Wasn't as easy as it sounds (well, 28pints is never easy) but consider the time to wait at the bar, drink the pint, take a piss, find the closest station, wait for the next train and then hit the next pub.

hehe, this is a splendide idea, one pint - one station - one piss
i have to try it some day...
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Old January 18th, 2008, 05:19 PM   #610
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Is the tiny bit of single track at the end of the former East London Line in New Cross Gate going to be doubled? I can't imagine them keeping a section of single track right in the middle of the new ELLX.
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Old January 18th, 2008, 05:31 PM   #611
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It's using a completely different alignment, so I think so.


I've made a thread called "What do you hate about your Metro?" as this forum is pretty much dead half the time... Complain about the Tube there!
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Old January 18th, 2008, 06:01 PM   #612
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And I once done the circle line pub crawl. <snip> take a piss,
I thought that if you did that, you went back two stations (I know that if that rule was in force, it would make the pub crawl pretty much impossible).
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Is the tiny bit of single track at the end of the former East London Line in New Cross Gate going to be doubled?
yes and no - there will be another track, but it'll be the other side of the mainline (having gone over a flyover). South of NXG, the ELL will merge in with the slow tracks. It is effectively doubled, but it isn't technically - it is to be a slip road for a grade separated junction (to take an analogy from the roads) - what's going to happen is another slip road is being built, but not making the single track bit two track
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It's using a completely different alignment, so I think so.
again, yes and no - it's rebuilding the old ELL alignment (from the days of Croydon Central - Liverpool Street services, and later freight movements) - the bit that was in use till December is still going to be used, however the main bit of construction will be on a completely different alignment (the bit that's effectively doubling the single track bit).

Basically, the single track bit is to be doubled, but the other track is on a completely different alignment.
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Old January 19th, 2008, 08:18 PM   #613
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I love London metro. I also love London in general, but that's another story for another day
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Old January 19th, 2008, 08:47 PM   #614
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I thought that if you did that, you went back two stations (I know that if that rule was in force, it would make the pub crawl pretty much impossible).yes and no - there will be another track, but it'll be the other side of the mainline (having gone over a flyover). South of NXG, the ELL will merge in with the slow tracks. It is effectively doubled, but it isn't technically - it is to be a slip road for a grade separated junction (to take an analogy from the roads) - what's going to happen is another slip road is being built, but not making the single track bit two trackagain, yes and no - it's rebuilding the old ELL alignment (from the days of Croydon Central - Liverpool Street services, and later freight movements) - the bit that was in use till December is still going to be used, however the main bit of construction will be on a completely different alignment (the bit that's effectively doubling the single track bit).

Basically, the single track bit is to be doubled, but the other track is on a completely different alignment.
To add to this, even though he probably won't even view it, a diagram from London Connections (is that your site?)
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Old January 20th, 2008, 11:48 AM   #615
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That's my blog actually. It shows the new connections at the north end (Shoreditch) rather than the south end (New Cross Gate).

At New Cross Gate, southbound trains will use the existing ELL platform before running through where the buffers were to join the mainline south of the station. Northbound trains will call at the westernmost mainline platform before moving left and going up a ramp parallel to the main line. They'll then turn right over a flyover across the whole main line, go down another ramp and join the ELL at the double track section.

This second ramp is in the middle of where the new depot is being built. You can actually see the foundations and ramps under construction from a London Bridge - New Cross Gate train.
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So there will affectively be cross-platform interchange at New Cross Gate from London Overground to NR? It seems silly to have two southbound platforms though, as London Overground trains will take the exact same route as NR trains... Am I right?

Great blog by the way, very informative!
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Old January 20th, 2008, 08:46 PM   #617
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So there will affectively be cross-platform interchange at New Cross Gate from London Overground to NR? It seems silly to have two southbound platforms though, as London Overground trains will take the exact same route as NR trains... Am I right?

Great blog by the way, very informative!
There's a bit of logic to it operationally: if the ELL was diverted to join the NR 'slow' lines north of New Cross Gate then very often a train ex-ELL would be held approaching the junction waiting for a path. Having two adjacent southbound platforms means that a train ex-ELL can wait at a platform for its southbound path, and possibly allow customers to cross-transfer if its being held long enough for a train ex-London Bridge to overtake it.

If you catch my drift...
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Yes that makes a lot sense actually, it's actually more flexible for passengers who want to go south as quickly as possible, rather than passengers who get on at New Cross Gate.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 02:08 AM   #619
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Pictures of the Tube taken from the 'Best Subway' thread. All of these were taken from flickr, after trawling through hundreds of photos to find the best ones. I should really ask for permission first, but if anyone asks me to take them down then I will. I'm putting these here because it took me a while to get them all, and I want to revive this thread!

Pre-1900 sub-surface stations (Circle, East London, District, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan lines, i.e. the Sub Surface Network, there are however pre-1900 overground 'tube line' stations, these are as a result of existing railway takeovers or line swapping.)

Baker Street, Circle and Hammersmith and City lines platforms:

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Great Portland Street:

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Notting Hill Gate, Circle and District lines platforms:

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Farringdon, Circle, Hammersmith and City and Metropolitan lines platforms to the right, First Capital Connect Thameslink service to the left:

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South Kensington Circle and District lines platform:

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Earl's Court District line platforms:

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Paddington:

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Embankment:

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Barons Court:

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Many pre-1900 suburban stations have these 'country cottage' type of entrances, some of which are left over from existing railway take-overs, they look 'cottagey' perhaps because when they were built many of them were in the countryside!

Southfields:

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Stepney Green:

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Walthamstow Central:

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The platforms usually have an 'upside down picket fence' type of roof as their distinguishing feature.

Woodside Park:

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Barons Court:

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Barkingside:

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Two of the few surviving C&SLR (City and South London Railway, now the Northern line's Bank branch). The first section opened in 1890 and was the first deep level railway in the world, however, the Tower Subway and Thames Tunnel could both be thought of as railways, the Tower Subway was cable hauled, and the Thames Tunnel wasn't originally intended to be a railway tunnel, being converted in the 1860s. The Thames Tunnel was also just a section of the East London Railway (now East London line) whereas the C&SLR was entirely in deep bore tunnels. The C&SLR tunnels are not original, as they were widened in the 1920s. The C&SLR was also one of the first railways in the world to use electric traction. C&SLR stations had plain white tiling on the platforms with a brown band legnthways, none of this tiling remains.

Original narrow island platforms, only two stations are still like this on the network:

Clapham Common:

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Kennington:

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Clapham Common:

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Waterloo station on the Waterloo & City line (originally London and South Western Railway) it was opened in 1898, noticeable in being a cut-and-cover station on a 'tube' line, the rest of the line is deep level. This isn't the original decor:

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Central London Railway stations, built around 1900. The platforms, like the C&SLR, had plain white tiling. It is now the Central line.

Lancaster Gate:

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Queensway:

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Charles Yerks station (Bakerloo, Piccadilly and Northern (Charing Cross branch) lines) Designed by Leslie Green. Most of these were made between 1900-1910. The entrances have distinctive 'ox-blood' tiling for the entrances, and the platforms have unique tile patterns which differ for every station, many of which were unfortunately replaced in the 80s-90s... See below.

Arsenal:

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Chalk Farm:

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Russell Square:

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Holloway Road:

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Holloway Road:

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Covent Garden:

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Chalk Farm:

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Belsize Park:

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Lambeth North:

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1910-1920s stations on the Bakerloo's extention to Queen's Park and the Northern line's extension from Golder's Green to Edgware designed by Stanley A Heaps.

Edgware:

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Hendon Central:

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This is a continuation of the Leslie Green stations and is therefore based on them

Maida Vale:

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Charles Holden art deco stations 1920s-1940s, there are Charles Holden stations on most lines. Some of his stations are reconstructions of existing Central London stations for the equipping of escalators, as all deep level stations were built before escalators were even invented and required lifts and a spiral staircase for emergencies. The rest of his work was reconstructions of suburban overground stations, and brand new suburban stations to encourage development.

Clapham South:

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Wood Green:

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Oakwood:

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Cockfosters:

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East Finchley:

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Harrow-on-the-Hill:

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Kilburn:

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Tooting Bec:

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St James' Park:

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Ealing Common:

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Oakwood:

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Cockfosters:

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Chiswick Park:

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Northfields:

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Art deco escalator lamps, they were first on the Tube in the late twenties, most of them were unfortunately ripped out along with the wooden escalators after the King's Cross Fire in 1987, but a handful remain.

Southgate:

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Contemporary version, the originals were brown:

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This station was modelled on the Moscow Metro after Holden visited it in the 40s.

Gants Hill:

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1950-1960s stations, these are both reconstructions.

Moorgate:

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Euston Square:

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1960s-1970s stations (Victoria line) Each station has a unique motif in the wall recesses behind the benches. Some of them are a bit naff and literal, for example, Brixton has a tonne of bricks as it's motif... Other than that the platforms are practically identical, except for updates over the years: Oxford Circus and Victoria both had their tiles replaced with something just as bland and Oxford Circus and Green Park both no longer have their original motifs... See all the motifs here.

Walthamstow Central:

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Green Park, Victoria line platform:

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Finsbury Park:

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Stockwell:

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1970s-1980s stations (Piccadilly line between Hounslow West and Heathrow Airport, and Jubilee line between Baker Street and Green Park)

Green Park Jubilee line platform:

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Baker Street Jubilee line platform:

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Hatton Cross:

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1980s-1990s stations (most of them are not original designs, most of them are in Central London, unfortunately)

Euston Northern line (Charing Cross branch) platform:

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Angel:

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Green Park Piccadilly line platform:

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Charing Cross Bakerloo line platform:

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Baker Street Bakerloo line platform:

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21st century stations (Mostly Jubilee line between Westminster and Stratford but some old stations that have been modernised in 21st century style)

Waterloo Jubilee line platform:

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London Bridge Jubilee line platform:

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Bermondsey:

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Southwark:

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North Greenwich:

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Southwark:

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Bermondsey:

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Canary Wharf:

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Elephant & Castle:

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Finsbury Park:

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Brixton:

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Last but not least, the trains, the interior decor is usually based on the line's colour, though there are some exceptions because of the Disability Discrimination Act...

Bakerloo line 1972 Stock = 7 short cars

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Central line 1992 Stock = 8 short cars

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Circle/Hammersmith & City/District (Edgware Road - Wimbledon) C Stock = 6 short cars

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District line D Stock = 6 long cars

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Metropolitan line A Stock, Metropolitan = 8 short cars

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Jubilee line 1996 Stock = 7 long cars

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Northern line 1995 Stock = 6 long cars (externally identical to 1996 Stock)

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Piccadilly line 1973 Stock = 6 long cars

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Victoria line 1967 Stock = 8 short cars (externally identical to the 1972 Stock)

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Waterloo & City line 1992 Stock = 4 short cars (externally identical to the 1992 Stock)

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Victoria line 2009 Stock, entered service in 2009 to replace the 1967 Stock. It'll be 8 slightly longer cars. These trains will be slightly (only slightly) larger than existing Tube stock as the Victoria line has slightly larger tunnels, they were built larger as the sixties planners thought that this would reduce air resistance.

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Sub-Surface line Stock (Circle, District, Hammersmith and City and Metropolitan lines) Circle, District Hammersmith & City lines will become 7 short cars (The Circle and Hammersmith and City are 6 short cars, the District 6 long cars, so it'll be the same for the District) Metropolitan will remaine as 8 short cars. These trains will feature air-conditioning and inter-connecting gangways, like Paris Metro line 1. As the Sub-surface lines were built for steam trains, there are sections for the hot air to be expelled. They are expected to enter service in 2010 on the Metropolitan, replacing the much-loved A Stock:

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And finally, something I thought was interesting...

Difference in size between the Sub-Surface Stock and the Tube Stock, it's the Piccadilly line 1973 Stock and Metropolitan line A Stock side by side on the Uxbridge branch:

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That's a very interesting post.
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