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Old March 15th, 2008, 01:13 AM   #661
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Old March 15th, 2008, 05:09 PM   #662
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Old March 15th, 2008, 07:31 PM   #663
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shame they can't get third rail into that station, making airtrack more difficult and annoying - looks good though!
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Old March 16th, 2008, 01:52 PM   #664
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shame they can't get third rail into that station, making airtrack more difficult and annoying - looks good though!
Platforms 3 & 4 have been built and left vacant ready for Airtrack and the route safeguarded... or are you referring to electrification?

It's a shame that Express / Connect is 25Kv OLE and Airtrack would be 3rd Rail DC, as a Paddington - Waterloo service via Heathrow would be cool, but there's no reason why dual-voltage trains like those used for First Capital Connect / Thameslink and First services to Moorgate can't be used.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 03:09 PM   #665
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Tube drivers eye view, it's the Circle line between Kings Cross and Liverpool Street being typically slow. Waits in stations and gaps between tunnels (where it is pitch black) have been edited out.
Vey interesting movie. The trains sound just as they do in Moscow, so similar.
Could you tell me what was the first station, with a mansion on a platform, it was so picturesque. I really don't understand why it is often said London tube is not beautiful at all.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #666
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Vey interesting movie. The trains sound just as they do in Moscow, so similar.
Could you tell me what was the first station, with a mansion on a platform, it was so picturesque. I really don't understand why it is often said London tube is not beautiful at all.
Do you mean the second station in the video, which is Farringdon? Or do you mean Barbican (the third station)? The first station is King's Cross which is wholly underground, so I don't think you mean that one.

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Old March 17th, 2008, 12:01 AM   #667
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Platforms 3 & 4 have been built and left vacant ready for Airtrack and the route safeguarded... or are you referring to electrification?
the latter - from what I gather, all four platforms will be airtrack/HEx and third rail isn't allowed there for technical reasons of some sort.
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It's a shame that Express / Connect is 25Kv OLE and Airtrack would be 3rd Rail DC, as a Paddington - Waterloo service via Heathrow would be cool, but there's no reason why dual-voltage trains like those used for First Capital Connect / Thameslink and First services to Moorgate can't be used.
Airtrack would be 25kV OLE to Staines/Staines High Street (dual electrified where Hex and third rail for the new north-west curve. Changeover will be at Staines/Staines High Street. It's far more complex electrically to have the large overlap section, rather than a changeover at Heathrow. It also means that while HEx can run to Staines with no changes to the trains, Airtrack will need the dual voltage trains, and that reduces stock flexibility (as if there was third rail to Heathrow, any SW trains electric stock could go there).
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Old March 17th, 2008, 12:17 AM   #668
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Sorry, I meant the first station on the ground. Well, when watching you may see it since 2:33. I liked the entrance on the platform very much.

By the way, do you know how every single station of London Tube looks like?
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Old March 17th, 2008, 01:09 AM   #669
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Sorry, I meant the first station on the ground. Well, when watching you may see it since 2:33. I liked the entrance on the platform very much.

By the way, do you know how every single station of London Tube looks like?
I think you mean Farringdon station, or are you talking about the overbridge?

And every tube station looks different... But of course there are architectural trends, see them in my post 325 on this page.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #670
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I think the 92TS is the best of the lot! Big windows make it feel more spacious, two of the seats are set back giving it more leg room and more standing space, and the handrails by the doors 'stick out' from the wall allowing one to wrap their arm around it while reading the newspaper! But the seats are too uncomfortable, and because of that I prefer the 72/67TS... I don't really like the 09TS interior because the windows are too small, but the Victoria line is entirely in tunnel so there isn't much to see.
I agree about the big windows, somehow make the 92TS look more modern than the rest, such a shame they have not brought them over for the 09TS. I don't know why trains have such small windows these days.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:54 PM   #671
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why trains have such small windows these days.
Me? I reckon they`re under-sized to deprive their passengers any sense of panache brought on by comfortably riding trains in our stylin`ways, i.e., one`d be supposedly better off going by automobile instead . . . I`ve always reckoned tiny windows to be a yankee thing, which is funny when one recalls just how (ahem) big they like things to be down there . . .
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Old March 18th, 2008, 10:58 PM   #672
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I agree about the big windows, somehow make the 92TS look more modern than the rest, such a shame they have not brought them over for the 09TS. I don't know why trains have such small windows these days.
Well, the whole Victoria line is underground. It's not like you'd be able to see much with bigger windows.
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Tube drivers eye view, it's the Circle line between Kings Cross and Liverpool Street being typically slow. Waits in stations and gaps between tunnels (where it is pitch black) have been edited out.
The Video is great and very interesting, but could someone explain to me why this train is so slow? Why does it wait sometimes for another train to pass it by, when it uses completely separate track? The speed is really annoying - average of 15 mph? I always considered London Tube as an express service, going at incredibly high speed (of course as for metro service). Why the Circle Line is so different?
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The fast bits between the stations have been edited out. The driver also keeps getting red signals, which suggests the train is catching up with the one in front. I don't think it's anything to do with trains coming the other way.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 04:37 PM   #675
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The Video is great and very interesting, but could someone explain to me why this train is so slow? Why does it wait sometimes for another train to pass it by, when it uses completely separate track? The speed is really annoying - average of 15 mph? I always considered London Tube as an express service, going at incredibly high speed (of course as for metro service). Why the Circle Line is so different?
There is a train in front, when the driver waits at the red signal before entering Moorgate (second station from the end) you can see the red lights of the back of the train waiting in the station.
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I think you mean Farringdon station, or are you talking about the overbridge?

And every tube station looks different... But of course there are architectural trends, see them in my post 325 on this page.
Every station looks different, really? I thought many curved station in the city center look similar, probably curves only are different.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 05:15 PM   #677
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Most of the Tube line stations are not majorly different, except for the tiie patterns, but sub-surface stations (which is whats in the video I posted) are more varied.
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Thanks, I've just viewed post 325. In fact, your tube is even more attractive than Moscow metro. You've got a real variety while here they copy designs slightly changing it.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 05:29 PM   #679
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Thanks, I've just viewed post 325. In fact, your tube is even more attractive than Moscow metro. You've got a real variety while here they copy designs slightly changing it.
Well... LU says thanks! I think there is more variety on LU but Moscow has more attractive stations IMO.
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There is a train in front, when the driver waits at the red signal before entering Moorgate (second station from the end) you can see the red lights of the back of the train waiting in the station.
Now it's clear to me. Thanks!
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